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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by mabalia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:21 pm

ABED wrote:Because I don't like it. What's more to say, I'd like for Gohan to be older, but I'm just repeating myself.
You aren't repeating yourself, you've only said that you don't like it. There is more to say such as WHY don't you like it in a work of fiction or why you not liking it means it shouldn't exist. It's fiction, bad things should happen to the heroes. Villains should commit evil acts.[/quote]

I dislike seeing kids as small as Gohan was in dangerous situations. I could never see this as heroic act because I always understood kids should be protected and not carrying the huge responsability the way Gohan did. Again, 4 and 5 years old are too young for me, that's practically a baby with nap time.

Even when I was younger I never felt conected with his disadventures. Adult me can understand it better.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by mabalia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:45 pm

mabalia wrote:
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mabalia wrote:I didn't like that Gohan started to fight so young, he was just 5 years old, not even Goku started his adventures so young, he was already 12 or considering Minus possibly 14 years old. I'd prefer for the timeskip between DB and DBZ be at least 10 years, if I could change something in the manga that'd be it.

I know Gohan strenght was necessary in these battles but I'll always understand why Chichi was against Gohan's participation (I never forget a 5 years old Gohan with a broken neck, and that I watched this in anime made for kids and young teens).
Fine, but why?
DBZ arcs were very violent and if Gohan had to be a child in this, at least he could be older, like 9 or 10 years old, 5 years old is just too young for me. But what I'd really like was that Gohan started DBZ being 15 years old, by that time Goku should've convinced Chichi to let Gohan be trained by him. But that's just me, you don't have to agree.
That's what I said in this thread. All comes down to preferences, I'm not here to censor any form of art, I just stated an opinion based on my preferences.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:47 pm

I dislike seeing kids as small as Gohan was in dangerous situations. I could never see this as heroic act because I always understood kids should be protected and not carrying the huge responsability the way Gohan did. Again, 4 and 5 years old are too young for me, that's practically a baby with nap time.
I finally understand why because you've now given your reasons, but it's not real. Not everything that happens is supposed to be sunshine and lollipops. The villains should be doing evil things like kidnapping children. What Gohan did is ultimately heroic. Gohan should be protected, but he lives in a world where beings have the power to destroy planets so he's in the unenviable position of having enough power to make a difference. The morality isn't important, all that matters is if it's interesting.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by mabalia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:12 pm

ABED wrote:
I dislike seeing kids as small as Gohan was in dangerous situations. I could never see this as heroic act because I always understood kids should be protected and not carrying the huge responsability the way Gohan did. Again, 4 and 5 years old are too young for me, that's practically a baby with nap time.
I finally understand why because you've now given your reasons, but it's not real. Not everything that happens is supposed to be sunshine and lollipops. The villains should be doing evil things like kidnapping children. What Gohan did is ultimately heroic. Gohan should be protected, but he lives in a world where beings have the power to destroy planets so he's in the unenviable position of having enough power to make a difference. The morality isn't important, all that matters is if it's interesting.

That's good you could understand me. But I'll keep my opinion. :P

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:13 pm

Cetra wrote:I think Ize without the red lines looks fine. The red lines reek of Deadman Wonderland.
But have you seen his finial 'form' that shit's hideous

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:26 pm

mabalia wrote:
ABED wrote:
I dislike seeing kids as small as Gohan was in dangerous situations. I could never see this as heroic act because I always understood kids should be protected and not carrying the huge responsability the way Gohan did. Again, 4 and 5 years old are too young for me, that's practically a baby with nap time.
I finally understand why because you've now given your reasons, but it's not real. Not everything that happens is supposed to be sunshine and lollipops. The villains should be doing evil things like kidnapping children. What Gohan did is ultimately heroic. Gohan should be protected, but he lives in a world where beings have the power to destroy planets so he's in the unenviable position of having enough power to make a difference. The morality isn't important, all that matters is if it's interesting.

That's good you could understand me. But I'll keep my opinion. :P
There's still a question of why your uncomfortableness about kids in this situation (even fictional kids) is so bad in a story.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by mabalia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:47 pm

ABED wrote:
mabalia wrote:
ABED wrote: I finally understand why because you've now given your reasons, but it's not real. Not everything that happens is supposed to be sunshine and lollipops. The villains should be doing evil things like kidnapping children. What Gohan did is ultimately heroic. Gohan should be protected, but he lives in a world where beings have the power to destroy planets so he's in the unenviable position of having enough power to make a difference. The morality isn't important, all that matters is if it's interesting.

That's good you could understand me. But I'll keep my opinion. :P
There's still a question of why your uncomfortableness about kids in this situation (even fictional kids) is so bad in a story.
I'm a social worker, man. That's part of the job, some of what you see in literature I saw in real life. And I want a fictional story less dark to enjoy.

Let's not get so personal on next question, okay? The thread is unpopular opinion, not what I do with my life 8)

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:08 pm

I'm a social worker, man. That's part of the job, some of what you see in literature I saw in real life. And I want a fictional story less dark to enjoy.

Let's not get so personal on next question, okay? The thread is unpopular opinion, not what I do with my life 8)
You've seen a kid fight a genetically engineered monster and evil space aliens?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:19 pm

ABED wrote:You've seen a kid fight a genetically engineered monster and evil space aliens?
You're missing the point.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:20 pm

ABED wrote:
mabalia wrote:
ABED wrote: I finally understand why because you've now given your reasons, but it's not real. Not everything that happens is supposed to be sunshine and lollipops. The villains should be doing evil things like kidnapping children. What Gohan did is ultimately heroic. Gohan should be protected, but he lives in a world where beings have the power to destroy planets so he's in the unenviable position of having enough power to make a difference. The morality isn't important, all that matters is if it's interesting.

That's good you could understand me. But I'll keep my opinion. :P
There's still a question of why your uncomfortableness about kids in this situation (even fictional kids) is so bad in a story.
Oh, come on, don't ya like seeing a 5 year get beat up, abused. Don't ya like child abuse?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:28 pm

You're missing the point.
I was being facetious. Point is that Dragon Ball is so over the top and cartoony that even something like hitting a five year old, who lets face it is written like he's older, doesn't have NEARLY the same weight to it as if it was done on a grounded show like Breaking Bad. And lastly, I don't enjoy fictional child abuse. I enjoy bad guys doing bad things that elicit an emotional response from the audience.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:30 pm

Gog wrote:Don't ya like child abuse?
I enjoyed The Simpsons, so I guess.
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Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:32 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:Don't ya like child abuse?
I enjoyed The Simpsons, so I guess.
Awesome response :)
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:37 pm

Gog wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:Ahh thanks for correcting me, now I can see why Young JiJi doesn't do the dragon ball super manga
He was pretty shoddy at coming up with transformation designs of his own, although I maintain that he's a better artist than Toyotaro.
yeah but I can already see what SSB would have looked if he made it
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Oh-OH GOD ZAMASU WHAT DID HE DO TO YOU, OH GOD WHY
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This guy... Has a thing for spikes. I'm more of a tenticle man myself.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:40 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: He was pretty shoddy at coming up with transformation designs of his own, although I maintain that he's a better artist than Toyotaro.
yeah but I can already see what SSB would have looked if he made it
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Oh-OH GOD ZAMASU WHAT DID HE DO TO YOU, OH GOD WHY
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
This guy... Has a thing for spikes. I'm more of a tenticle man myself.
A man that i can relate to. Let me guess your favorite race is the buu's

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:44 pm

Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
yeah but I can already see what SSB would have looked if he made it
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]


Oh-OH GOD ZAMASU WHAT DID HE DO TO YOU, OH GOD WHY
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
This guy... Has a thing for spikes. I'm more of a tenticle man myself.
A man that i can relate to. Let me guess your favorite race is the buu's
Nah, Frieza race in a form with out spikes. Majin's are second though.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:54 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote: This guy... Has a thing for spikes. I'm more of a tenticle man myself.
A man that i can relate to. Let me guess your favorite race is the buu's
Nah, Frieza race in a form with out spikes. Majin's are second though.
Oh, my look's like I've met a tail man. You know, imagine what an arcosian could do to you with that tail ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) , Majins are indeed a close second though. Imagine an arcosian, and a majin going at each other

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Post by ABED » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:13 pm

Arcosians is dub only, specifically the Ocean dub.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:45 am

Gohan proudly saying he's the son of Goku and jumping at Recoome only to get his neck broken is one of his best moments in the series.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:25 am

kinisking wrote:Gohan proudly saying he's the son of Goku and jumping at Recoome only to get his neck broken is one of his best moments in the series.
No, its the best moment in the entire series

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