"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:25 pm

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man that would be a epic conclusion. Goku and Vegeta working together using the "move without thinking" technique Whis told them before? I can't describe how awesome it would be.
But Dragon Ball is also known for missing awesome opportunities. So that scenario we keep it in our hearts.
I have a feeling that Goku and Vegeta will fuse to become Gogeta. And Gogeta will use Ultra Instinct. And through that experience, Vegeta will also attain Ultra Instinct.
I'd love Vegeta to get Ultra Instinct. However, wouldn't the mortal fusion (Fusion Dance) last even less longer than the Potara Fusion if the fused result is too powerful? Fusion Dance was established to be temporal no matter what, while Potara is permanent if one of the fusees is a Kaioshin. If time ran out for a Kaioshin using Fusion Dance while Potara lasts way longer (indefinite), then again, wouldn't a hypothetical SSB Gogeta last less longer than SSB Vegetto?

EDIT: But then again, considering the pacing in this arc, SSB Vegetto would have lasted a lot more episodes :lol:

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Post by SirTorra » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:50 am

If vegeto could master UI, he's angel level. He'll be around low angel tier. Hell maybe mid tier.

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Post by darzap » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:05 am

Noah wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball is built on nonsense.
Sure, but I'm mainly talking that Gogeta will never be a part of Super since the Potara retcon.
Lord Beerus has a point with that statement, though. Dragon Ball is definitely willing to bend logic quite a bit to insert something cool and it is not even hard to justify Gogeta. If they think it would be cool to have him in it, they might go for it (and then have him accomplish nothing because **** fusion, right?). Kaioshin throws his Potaras, Dyspo jumps out of some shadow and blasts them away, yelling some dumb line about fusion being against justice(tm) in the process. That would actually be a more logical thing to do than following the DB pattern of lettings every character do whatever they want to do to get a power-up. And just like that, you've introduced a scenario in which they can't use the Potara earrings and you've done it in a way that is less disrespectful to the internal logic than a lot of other stuff that they do.

It definitely makes sense to argue for something happening, based on foreshadowing, but arguing against something happening seems pretty pointless to me because stuff happens out of the blue all the time in Dragon Ball.

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Post by Noah » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:08 am

First off, I don't even think Goku and Vegeta will fuse again, I mean it was not even part of Toriyama script in the previous arc and second off, even though in the actual scenario they are fighting to universe survival, this is still is tournament for them and prideful as they are, I don't think they will rely on fusion again.
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Post by perucho1990 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:11 am

If Daishinkan turns out to be evil, then Vegetto has to return, and with UI he might have a small chance in winning the battle imo.

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Post by Noah » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:16 am

^ Nah, I think the only one capable of defeating El Grande Padre is Blanco Gohan.
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Post by perucho1990 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:26 am

I was about to ask this, if Freeza really needs Goku to work for him then why isnt he helping Goku vs Ranbara, Zarbuto and Zirloin?

I want to be thursday already so we know who will be biting the dust next, either U2 or U6, at this point U6 just have to play defense or attempt sneak attacks like Frost was doing it. They better not have Brianne act as arrogant as Kefla when she gets her powerup.

I can see Brianne reaching a level far above the Saiyan Girls.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:43 am

perucho1990 wrote: I can see Brianne reaching a level far above the Saiyan Girls.
Which is great because she is wonderful as a character!
I wouldn't mind her going against Toppo or Vegeta blue at all, the only thing that can be done is toning down the love talk a little..
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Post by perucho1990 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:59 am

Ki Breaker wrote: Which is great because she is wonderful as a character!
I wouldn't mind her going against Toppo or Vegeta blue at all, the only thing that can be done is toning down the love talk a little..
Unlike Caulifla and Kale, Brianne got hyped by Liquiir and Daishinkan, that alone should be the reason Brianne becomes a powerhouse, Magical Girls powerups are very broken.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:50 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
perucho1990 wrote: I can see Brianne reaching a level far above the Saiyan Girls.
Which is great because she is wonderful as a character!
I wouldn't mind her going against Toppo or Vegeta blue at all, the only thing that can be done is toning down the love talk a little..
Well 1st off Nice to meet you Ki Breaker, Glad you think Brianne is a wonderful character! :thumbup:

I think at this point with how long we have until the end and how many fighters we have left, the Levels of Power are going to be getting higher and higher just to keep up with how the climax always grows in power. So Brianne Transforming into a being that is Blue or High is Likely.

What will be the key ideal difference is that while Kefla was a traditional Saiayn style fighter, direct strength and attacks using overwhelming power, what will Brianne's Eternal-Form Bring?! :think:

What special skills and style of fighting will she have and look like?! :think:

It is exciting to speculate, but if anyone has seen a Magical Girl show one bases is based in drive of their will, their desire to protect the ones they love and the world they love. That can be a powerful weapon, who has to bigger will in a battle.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Honestly besides the constant love talk, I'm enjoying Ribrianne as a character much more than the U6 girls. I prefer her first form, though i get the joke behind it

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:02 pm

Thats literally the only problem about Ribrianne, she's way into love,hope and friendship talks even in battle she spouts that every single time, she's too enthusiastic, when she tones that down she's actually fun to watch.
Anyways she's not as offensive and obnoxious as those saiyan girls even with her love talks. Tho I do get the point on why she's like that, its a jab about magical girls, still hope Kakunsa was still in, out of the 3 she's by far my favorite because of her animal gig.

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Post by emperior » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:08 pm

SirTorra wrote:If vegeto could master UI, he's angel level. He'll be around low angel tier. Hell maybe mid tier.
That's only headcanon. We have no idea how far the Angels are from the Hakaishin. For all we know Whis could have some strange technique/power other than the mastery of Ultra Instinct.
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Post by Noah » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:17 pm

I wish Super was more violent it would pretty satisfying seeing characters like Ribrianne and Rozie going through this:

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Post by perucho1990 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:29 pm

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Well 1st off Nice to meet you Ki Breaker, Glad you think Brianne is a wonderful character! :thumbup:

I think at this point with how long we have until the end and how many fighters we have left, the Levels of Power are going to be getting higher and higher just to keep up with how the climax always grows in power. So Brianne Transforming into a being that is Blue or High is Likely.

What will be the key ideal difference is that while Kefla was a traditional Saiayn style fighter, direct strength and attacks using overwhelming power, what will Brianne's Eternal-Form Bring?! :think:

What special skills and style of fighting will she have and look like?! :think:

It is exciting to speculate, but if anyone has seen a Magical Girl show one bases is based in drive of their will, their desire to protect the ones they love and the world they love. That can be a powerful weapon, who has to bigger will in a battle.
I can see Brianne blasting off 18 like Goku did it with Kefla. Part of me would want 17 to be taken out by Damon, Lets say that Brianne attempts to blast off 17 but he barely survives and suddenly Damon and Gamisaras show up and eliminate him, while Brianne moves on to her next target.

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Post by Krillin1994 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:54 pm

Is the image of the red and blue UI Goku in the strength thread real?

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:01 pm

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That they won't immediately defuse?
They would defused faster. Gotenks could only hold Super Saiyan 3 for five minutes before his fusion broke.
Possibly, but we don't know if that is because SSJ3 drains stamina at a faster rate. After all tired Goku could only hold SSJ3 for a few seconds but then went God and Blue like 20 seconds later.

I think it actually may be more stable for them.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:03 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:Thats literally the only problem about Ribrianne, she's way into love,hope and friendship talks even in battle she spouts that every single time, she's too enthusiastic, when she tones that down she's actually fun to watch.
Anyways she's not as offensive and obnoxious as those saiyan girls even with her love talks. Tho I do get the point on why she's like that, its a jab about magical girls, still hope Kakunsa was still in, out of the 3 she's by far my favorite because of her animal gig.
I'll just throw this here dart at a board of love something and stuff, and I'll have Ribrianne's dialogue for the episode out early.
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Post by perucho1990 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:13 pm

I'm such a slowpoke to notice Rina Kitagawa(Brianne seiyuu) is the youngest seiyuu working in DBS(she is 24 years old) and she already had a main role in a Toei series(Precure show from 2015), so I think thats one of the reasons why Brianne has outlasted the Saiyan Girls, they want to help Kitagawa with her career, the upcoming to episode could help her become more relevant in the industry.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Noah wrote:I wish Super was more violent it would pretty satisfying seeing characters like Ribrianne and Rozie going through this:

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Honestly want Super to get more like this as we get into the final mins of the ToP ~~~~ I want to see Brianne Do THAT to an opponent, pick them up and Go All Seras Victoria on Someone Like That! :wink: :mrgreen:
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