The Harmony Gold Dub & Broadcast Audio Discussion Thread

[genjosanzo8]

I wonder how Kei got the tape anyway? If he lives in Japan and the tape was recorded in the USA...

Kei actually didn't find it himself, takarajima was the one who originally found it and sent kei a copy which is how he got it.

takarajima too seems to have disappear from here...when you have all broadcast things and when someone know that you have, the only choice you have is to disappear if you don't want to give everything to everyone and mailbomber

[genjosanzo8]

and more than that now that toei know who is the only one to have broadcast audio (kei already try with toei to an official release) , if broadcast audio became public kei will be the first to have trouble (and japanese don't laugh with it)

[Puto]

They can't know that, because there's no guarantee that he's the only person on the planet to have broadcast audio.

[superrayman3]

They can't know that, because there's no guarantee that he's the only person on the planet to have broadcast audio.

There's no guarantee that kei is the only one with broadcast audio that's true, however kei has been very vocal about having said broadcast audio and his desire to have it available to the public legally, so if someone was to get the broadcast audio from him and it ended up becoming public via illegal means, Toei would most likely point the finger and go after kei first even if he didn't do the illegal uploading since they're fully aware he has broadcast audio.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

They can't know that, because there's no guarantee that he's the only person on the planet to have broadcast audio.

There's no guarantee that kei is the only one with broadcast audio that's true, however kei has been very vocal about having said broadcast audio and his desire to have it available to the public legally, so if someone was to get the broadcast audio from him and it ended up becoming public via illegal means, Toei would most likely point the finger and go after kei first even if he didn't do the illegal uploading since they're fully aware he has broadcast audio.

If he wants it public, he's better off just releasing it illegitimately. It may be against some principle of his, but at a certain point, you have to put your goal ahead of other things. Either way, releasing it totally anon would be easy these days.

[genjosanzo8]

They can't know that, because there's no guarantee that he's the only person on the planet to have broadcast audio.

There's no guarantee that kei is the only one with broadcast audio that's true, however kei has been very vocal about having said broadcast audio and his desire to have it available to the public legally, so if someone was to get the broadcast audio from him and it ended up becoming public via illegal means, Toei would most likely point the finger and go after kei first even if he didn't do the illegal uploading since they're fully aware he has broadcast audio.

If he wants it public, he's better off just releasing it illegitimately. It may be against some principle of his, but at a certain point, you have to put your goal ahead of other things. Either way, releasing it totally anon would be easy these days.

i was thinking the same and the first to want these audio lol BUT it is not so easy:
if he had done this without talking to toei first maybe it could have been done anonymous but now that kei contact them officially (he choose to did it legally we had to respect that) Toei know that (and if they search on internet they would easilly know that kei is the middle of all that involve the broadcast audio so they will suspect him firstly keep that in mind.)

If he just let things be public now (and his last connection was end august so he can have personal problem too...) he will be the only one to have big trouble with law.

We didn't have to be selfish and just thinking of ourself.... if people could have kept what they had to keep private maybe kei will have share with more people but it is not the case (for things like the summer vacation)

we just have to admitted that we will never had the better audio for dragon ball, it is very sad but if you think at the other Toei series which audio is forever lost like saint seiya or hokuto no ken it is like that....and that's all

[Jinzoningen MULE]

There's no guarantee that kei is the only one with broadcast audio that's true, however kei has been very vocal about having said broadcast audio and his desire to have it available to the public legally, so if someone was to get the broadcast audio from him and it ended up becoming public via illegal means, Toei would most likely point the finger and go after kei first even if he didn't do the illegal uploading since they're fully aware he has broadcast audio.

If he wants it public, he's better off just releasing it illegitimately. It may be against some principle of his, but at a certain point, you have to put your goal ahead of other things. Either way, releasing it totally anon would be easy these days.

i was thinking the same and the first to want these audio lol BUT it is not so easy:
if he had done this without talking to toei first maybe it could have been done anonymous but now that kei contact them officially (he choose to did it legally we had to respect that) Toei know that (and if they search on internet they would easilly know that kei is the middle of all that involve the broadcast audio so they will suspect him firstly keep that in mind.)

If he just let things be public now (and his last connection was end august so he can have personal problem too...) he will be the only one to have big trouble with law.

We didn't have to be selfish and just thinking of ourself.... if people could have kept what they had to keep private maybe kei will have share with more people but it is not the case (for things like the summer vacation)

we just have to admitted that we will never had the better audio for dragon ball, it is very sad but if you think at the other Toei series which audio is forever lost like saint seiya or hokuto no ken it is like that....and that's all

I would say that Toei's suspicions don't matter, but the Japanese legal system is notoriously corrupt, so there may be a real risk whether they can prove it or not.

Either way, I don't care too much. I watch older shows with terrible audio all the time.

[Bansho64]

Does anyone know anything about a guy called, "CNXToonami" on YouTube? He's been claiming on several videos by other users, and some of his own, that Kei gave him the broadcast audio and that he's digitilized it.

[Ajay]

Does anyone know anything about a guy called, "CNXToonami" on YouTube? He's been claiming on several videos by other users, and some of his own, that Kei gave him the broadcast audio and that he's digitilized it.

He's a banned member of this forum. Nobody worth paying attention to.

[Bansho64]

He's a banned member of this forum. Nobody worth paying attention to.

Dang, really? Well, thanks for informing me. I was almost about to hit the subscribe button too. Well, I guess we're just gonna have to play the waiting game. Maybe Kei's in the process of giving it to Funi or something.

[clutchins]

He's a banned member of this forum. Nobody worth paying attention to.

Dang, really? Well, thanks for informing me. I was almost about to hit the subscribe button too. Well, I guess we're just gonna have to play the waiting game. Maybe Kei's in the process of giving it to Funi or something.

Yeah he likes to joke about that kind of thing. He doesn't have anything that's worth anything close to the stuff we discuss in this thread.

[DBZimran]

I have literally been on a wild goose chase all day. Looking through anything and everything related to the broadcast audio. Some french message boards all the posts made by Kei17, and anything related to the broadcast audio posted on here. Now my realistic opinion is that Funimation may want these audio masters from people like Kei17, but there is no way Toei is going to approve of Funimation having better masters than themselves. Its so frustrating and annoying. I want the audio masters, but there is no way i would harass Kei17 like some people have. It is completely frustrating considering how understanding and cooperative Kei is/or was. I hope he can give us another chance considering he has shared some rare inside information and rare recordings of content we had no idea existed. It is a complete shame. If your reading this Kei17 then just know not all of us are greedy blood thirsty glory fans. I have been harassed countless times for Ocean Dub and Blue Water dub recordings people have given me or I have acquired. The harassing has put me off from sharing the content countless of times. I know some collectors who destroy the things the fans want.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I have literally been on a wild goose chase all day. Looking through anything and everything related to the broadcast audio. Some french message boards all the posts made by Kei17, and anything related to the broadcast audio posted on here. Now my realistic opinion is that Funimation may want these audio masters from people like Kei17, but there is no way Toei is going to approve of Funimation having better masters than themselves. Its so frustrating and annoying. I want the audio masters, but there is no way i would harass Kei17 like some people have. It is completely frustrating considering how understanding and cooperative Kei is/or was. I hope he can give us another chance considering he has shared some rare inside information and rare recordings of content we had no idea existed. It is a complete shame. If your reading this Kei17 then just know not all of us are greedy blood thirsty glory fans. I have been harassed countless times for Ocean Dub and Blue Water dub recordings people have given me or I have acquired. The harassing has put me off from sharing the content countless of times. I know some collectors who destroy the things the fans want.

You're best off giving up. It would be nice to own, but the audio we have now is still manageable.

[Bansho64]

You're best off giving up. It would be nice to own, but the audio we have now is still manageable.

That's the last thing we should do. The audio's out there. We just have to keep searching and searching.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

You're best off giving up. It would be nice to own, but the audio we have now is still manageable.

That's the last thing we should do. The audio's out there. We just have to keep searching and searching.

It's out there, but the few people that have access to it aren't willing to spread it. Even if they were, they seem to have disappeared from the face of the Earth.

[Bansho64]

It's out there, but the few people that have access to it aren't willing to spread it. Even if they were, they seem to have disappeared from the face of the Earth.

Still. I don't think giving up is good. I'm not a person who likes settling for things. If there's a chance we can get the audio, then we should get it.

[DBZimran]

You're best off giving up. It would be nice to own, but the audio we have now is still manageable.

That's the last thing we should do. The audio's out there. We just have to keep searching and searching.

It's out there, but the few people that have access to it aren't willing to spread it. Even if they were, they seem to have disappeared from the face of the Earth.

I agree with Bansho64. We cannot just give up. These people are still out there and are still a part of the community. Kei17 still comes online to read the message boards here. In true dragonball spirit don't give up. There are mature and sensible ways to get the things we want. So just be patient with them. I am sure they will let us know what is going on with the distribution of those audio masters. Kei17 can distribute these legally or illegally it is upto him. He seems to have gone with the legal route. So we should express the interest for it, so atleast he knows that going through the effort will be worth it.

[genjosanzo8]

I think the best thing is to stop trying to contact kei. If he want to give something he will give it, if he wish to do it with funi he will try, but it has to came from him. More the people will try to contact him, it will have opposite result (and it will be disrespectful). Trust him and let him be please.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I think the best thing is to stop trying to contact kei. If he want to give something he will give it, if he wish to do it with funi he will try, but it has to came from him. More the people will try to contact him, it will have opposite result (and it will be disrespectful). Trust him and let him be please.

I couldn't agree more. If we get the audio, that will be fantastic. Until then, there's nothing productive that we can do to help, so we're better off pursuing other goals.

[genjosanzo8]

I think the best thing is to stop trying to contact kei. If he want to give something he will give it, if he wish to do it with funi he will try, but it has to came from him. More the people will try to contact him, it will have opposite result (and it will be disrespectful). Trust him and let him be please.

I couldn't agree more. If we get the audio, that will be fantastic. Until then, there's nothing productive that we can do to help, so we're better off pursuing other goals.

You don't understand what i mean... you can keep on searching another source of braodcast audio if exist but that for kei it is definitively dead , did you think if kei would like to see his audio everywhere he already did it? i think and i am sure, he only want to do the right thing by official way if possible but keep credit for all his audio (if he just release it illegaly he is the only one to have trouble but more than that, other will just say like the "CNXToonami" which said he has these audio....what did you think that kind of guy will do when they have them? if you have passed countless time of work and money to collect and preserve these thing did you want an idiot take credit for your hard work?

we talk about these audio and i think all of us would like to have them in the best quality possible but what we discuss now it is the kei's position.
He is the owner, he is an human being not just the owner, he deserve respect even if we don't agree that he don't release all this audio we have nothing to say.
he don't have debt with us and it is like that.

If he want to release them he will do by any way he want, if not it is sad but like that, all we are doing against that is disrespectful (and sorry if i did it some time ago)
except that all we can do is to search another source even if i don't think that exist.