Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[Bullza]

If it was just a matter of Ki control then there was no need for the Z Fighters to freak out when Goku was aiming his Kamehameha towards the Earth or when Goku told Cell not to fire a Kamehameha and flew upwards so the blast fired off into outer space.

The last time I recall a Kamehameha hitting the planet directly was when Goku deflected Buu's and Babidi said it destroyed a 10th of the world.

I just find it strange that a Kamehameha with so much power behind it did next to nothing to the Earth.

I know there's been nuke type and dome type attacks on the planet but a blast like the Kamehameha hitting the Earth is something they usually go out of their way to avoid.

To be honest I always thought that was why they set part of the Goku vs Beerus fight in Space.

It's not a big deal or anything though.

[Sora Saiyan]

The explanations might be as simple as...
Goku KHH vs Cell - Goku let it go out of control so it would destroy the planet. By doing this he could be sure Cell wouldn't just set himself up to dodge the attack. I know Goku teleported before firing it, but by doing it the way he did Cell wouldn't prepare himself to dodge the attack. Cell was actually caught off guard by Gokus willingness to destroy earth and his teleportation. There's definitely a better explanation but I can't dwell on this too much.
Vegeta Final Flash - It might've been a risk to the planet because it was a fairly new attack, or he hadn't had much practice with it. This could be why he didn't know how to control it perfectly.
Cell KHH vs Goku - Was because he didn't give a shit about the planet.

If Ki control didn't exist these would've destroyed the planet for sure.
Vegetas Big Bang attack which did nothing to the planet in the slightest, SSJ2 Gohans KHH which overpowered Cells 'Solar' KHH, Majin Vegetas suicide, Super Boo's explosion, Super Boo's mouth blast vs SSJ3 Gotenks, Bootenks blast against Chou Gohan and Beerus blast that Goku pushed to the other side of the planet in this episode (10), yeah it caused a big explosion but considering that Beerus has destroyed planets with far, far, far less it fits in with the rest in this list. Hell, SSJ3 Gotenks looks like he's about to charge up a KHH to wipe out Super Boo just before he reverts to base, and he wouldn't risk destroying the planet at that point.

Then with intent to destroy a planet we have Beerus little ball destroying a planet in episode 2, Beerus' poke destroying half a planet in episode 1, Pure Boo's generic ki blast which Vegeta deflected, and there's the possibility that first form Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta.

Ki attacks are just like a Genki Dama IMO, by that I mean they need to be controlled or else the planet goes bang. As Kaio said to Goku if he isn't careful with the Genki Dama he could end up destroying the planet he is trying to protect. It makes sense for normal ki attacks work the same way in-universe, it's the only explanation for what's been shown, or else you end up with Jackie Chuns KHH having more power than pretty much every attack I've put on this post that didn't destroy the planet (since they didn't come close to moon busting either), which we know isn't the case.

I believe that this KHH is the strongest attack Goku's used, since he was massively impressed with it. Going by what it destroyed it was really underwhelming, but it must've had a lot of power in it for Goku to react the way he did.

[Raizel]

Now I start to believe he can destroy universe.

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[Bullza]

So they strike punches with so much force that while on Earth it shakes the Supreme Kai's planet all the way across the universe? Is that what I'm seeing?

[Raizel]

So they strike up ches with so much force that while on Earth it shakes the Supreme Kai's planet all the way across the universe? Is that what I'm seeing?

Yes

[Saiyan007]

also this puts an end to Gt vs the Gods

The Gods are clearly on a different plane of existance

[Kishido]

also this puts an end to Gt vs the Gods

The Gods are clearly on a different plane of existance

But the GT universe has been a fusion of all universes and so it was far too difficult to destroy

*sarcasm*

[Sora Saiyan]

Oh my wow. Universal level SSJG and Beerus. It's starting to look ridiculous!

[Saiyan007]

The crazy thing is that Beerus still wasn't at 100%

[Sora Saiyan]

The crazy thing is that Beerus still wasn't at 100%

Talk about it, it's going too look good in episode 12 of Super, well I hope. So DB has now skipped galaxy level out and jumped to Universal.

[Bullza]

I really hope they keep that scene in the anime. I'd be disappointed now if it wasn't.

[Sora Saiyan]

I really hope they keep that scene in the anime. I'd be disappointed now if it wasn't.

Yeah I feel the exact same, Episode 12's title does mention the Universe crumbling, so I'd be very surprised if it isn't in as this must've came from somewhere.

[Doctor.]

I really hope they keep that scene in the anime. I'd be disappointed now if it wasn't.

It seems something similar will appear at least. They've been building up Beerus as a threat to the universe for so long, something like that has to happen.

[Saiyan007]

The crazy thing is that Beerus still wasn't at 100%

Talk about it, it's going too look good in episode 12 of Super, well I hope. So DB has now skipped galaxy level out and jumped to Universal.

It's not that it's just universal but the fact that people in a different dimension can feel it

If someone was in the ROSAT they would feel the punches from Beerus and Goku

[Lord Beerus]

also this puts an end to Gt vs the Gods

The Gods are clearly on a different plane of existance

Yeah, the GT universe characters have got nothing on the God tier characters in Super/DBZ now.

[Sora Saiyan]

also this puts an end to Gt vs the Gods

The Gods are clearly on a different plane of existance

Yeah, the GT universe characters have got nothing on the God tier characters in Super/DBZ now.

And we still don't know the limit to your powers Lord Beerus.

[Bullza]

I wonder if eventually the series will get to the point where Beerus is considered a weakling compared to the characters of that time. It sounds unlikely now but back in the day Frieza seemed like such a monster and then very quickly his strenght because nothing special then he was considered weak.

I wonder if that'll happen with Beerus in the future once they start introducing more villains.

I still think Champa will be between Golden Frieza and Beerus in power.

[GTX]

Now I start to believe he can destroy universe.
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If it shaked the entire universe and the epicentrum was the earth why is the earth is not destroyed, It screamed totall bullshit.

[Raizel]

Now I start to believe he can destroy universe.
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If it shaked the entire universe and the epicentrum was the earth why is the earth is not destroyed, It screams totall bullshit.

Everyone knows Earth is most durable thing in the universe

[SansrivaaL]

Now I start to believe he can destroy universe.
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If it shaked the entire universe and the epicentrum was the earth why is the earth is not destroyed, It screamed totall bullshit.

Obvioulsy for plot convinience or if you want to look at it at a DB logic then KI CONTROL. Imagine if the earth went boom they all go boom besides Whis and Beerus.