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Post by Taku128 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:51 pm

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Duo wrote:I think people will be very surprised with how awesome this title turns out to be. It's like half of the fans have forgotten this is the team that did Budokai 3, working on next-gen, with several years of development behind it.
It's $50 for the same damn thing with some new flashy bits and an incomplete storyline. Yaaay.
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21 characters with 35 forms taking up the Saiyan to Cell arc, my guess on characters would be:

1. Goku (Base, Kaioken, SSJ)
2. Kid Gohan
3. Piccolo
4. Kuririn
5. Tenshinhan
6. Yamucha
7. Raditz
8. Nappa
9. Vegeta (Base, SSJ)
10. Dodoria
11. Zarbon (Base, Monster)
12. Freeza (Base, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, 100% Final Form)
13. Commander Ginyu
14. Reacoom
15. Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2)
16. Trunks (Base, SSJ)
17. Either Dr. Gero or #19
18. #17
19. #18
20. #16
21. Cell (Base, Semi-Perfect, Perfect, Super-Perfect)

Saibaimen and Cell Jr. will probably be unplayable, but fought in story mode, but they might be playable and replace Zarbon and Dodoria. If they did, Trunks would probably get an USSJ transformation.
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Post by AceSharp » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:16 pm

It seems likely that we're going to get two different Vegetas, seeing as how the one on the character selection screen only seems to show Saiyan Saga Vegeta in a chronological order.

Also maybe two Trunks'? Because I'm pretty sure that I can see him in his Saiyan Armour in places on those scans, and there are two different headshots for SSJ Trunks if you look at the smaller pictures at the back more closely.

Or perhaps he's going to be getting Super Saiyan 2 again? I hope not, I'd rather there were two versions, one with the sword and one without (with the latter being able to reach the USSJ stages).

*EDIT*
Saibaimen and Cell Jr. will probably be unplayable, but fought in story mode, but they might be playable and replace Zarbon and Dodoria. If they did, Trunks would probably get an USSJ transformation.
Saibaimen are already confirmed as playable characters; you can see that they're selectable on the character selection screenshot on the second scan.

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Post by Kaboom » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:54 pm

Even if it's kinda supposed to be USSj, why is SSj2 for Trunks a bad thing? I though what-ifs were welcomed.
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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:08 pm

Rocketman wrote:It's $50 for the same damn thing with some new flashy bits and an incomplete storyline. Yaaay.
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Post by denitonis » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:11 pm

Herms wrote:Burst Limit compiles the Saiyan arc, Freeza arc, and Cell arc!! The well-chosen challangers from there will display 35 forms!! In the name of the strongest, they'll show you the fiercest fighting in history!!
So this basically is the upgrade for Budokai to the next-gen console.
Let's see who did we have in the 1st Budokai on the PS2:
01 - Goku (check)
02 - Kid Gohan
03 - Piccolo (check)
04 - Krillin (check)
05 - Yamcha
06 - Tien (check)
07 - Raditz (check)
08 - Nappa (check)
09 - Vegeta (check)
10 - Dodoria
11 - Zarbon
12 - Recoome (check)
13 - Captain Ginyu (check)
14 - Frieza (check)
15 - Trunks (check)
16 - Teen Gohan (check)
17 - Android #19
18 - Android #17 (check)
19 - Android #18 (check)
20 - Android #16 (check)
21 - Cell (check)
22 - Great Saiyaman
23 - Hercule
This way we can indeed expect another 2 version and I might be inclined to wait until a pricedrop or a sequel.
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Post by Captain Awesome » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:16 pm

I've been playing the shit out of B3 since it came out (I own two copies, since I needed the JP language track)

But so far this looks like one step forward, and a couple of steps back, I own both the shin Budokai's, and I was happy with the additions/changes because it was a portable game, and I wanted something a little different, but I always preferred Budokai 3, this seems to be a marriage between the two, which has me a little worried.

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:03 pm

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Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:16 pm

Wait, weren't Ginyu and Recoome (who seem to be in this game according to the character screen) the only Ginyu Force members in Budokai? I swear, this is a re-make of the original Budokai for next-gen consoles. :?

EDIT: I just saw something interesting in one of the new scans. I just wonder if anyone else noticed it as well. It, well, I'll just show you:

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As you can see in the image that I cut out from the scan, it shows what seems to be Super Saiyan Vegeta up in the sky, above Earth, :shock: and it looks like he threw a ki blast either at the planet at his opponent (Maybe an ultimate, like his Big Bang Attack?), or he's fleeing from something, no he's just throwing a ki blast. :?

What do you guys think?
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Post by Taku128 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:43 pm

AceSharp wrote:
Saibaimen and Cell Jr. will probably be unplayable, but fought in story mode, but they might be playable and replace Zarbon and Dodoria. If they did, Trunks would probably get an USSJ transformation.
Saibaimen are already confirmed as playable characters; you can see that they're selectable on the character selection screenshot on the second scan.
Bah, they're probably gonna cut out Zarbon and Dodoria then, like in Budokai 3. I'll modify my predictions accordingly

1. Goku (Base, Kaioken, SSJ)
2. Kid Gohan
3. Piccolo
4. Kuririn
5. Tenshinhan
6. Yamucha
7. Raditz
8. Nappa
9. Vegeta (Base, SSJ)
10. Saibaimen
11. Freeza (Base, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, 100% Final Form)
12. Commander Ginyu
13. Reacoom
14. Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2)
15. Trunks (Base, SSJ, USSJ)
16. Either Dr. Gero or #19
17. #17
18. #18
19. #16
20. Cell (Base, Semi-Perfect, Perfect, Super-Perfect)
21. Cell Jr.
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Post by Drabaz » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:04 am

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:EDIT: I just saw something interesting in one of the new scans. I just wonder if anyone else noticed it as well. It, well, I'll just show you:

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As you can see in the image that I cut out from the scan, it shows what seems to be Super Saiyan Vegeta up in the sky, above Earth, :shock: and it looks like he threw a ki blast either at the planet at his opponent (Maybe an ultimate, like his Big Bang Attack?), or he's fleeing from something, no he's just throwing a ki blast. :?

What do you guys think?
This is from the third scan:
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As you can see, it is Trunks who is doing the attack. The move he is doing is also one of his regular attacks in Shin Budokai. And about them being in space, it's probably just a stage background.
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Post by Herms » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:10 am

Drabaz wrote: And about them being in space, it's probably just a stage background.
I don't want to be one of those guys, but shouldn't they be suffocating to death? Although they could make it like the Inside Buu stage from Budokai 3, and have their HP slowly siphoned off.

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Post by Drabaz » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:36 am

Herms wrote:
Drabaz wrote: And about them being in space, it's probably just a stage background.
I don't want to be one of those guys, but shouldn't they be suffocating to death? Although they could make it like the Inside Buu stage from Budokai 3, and have their HP slowly siphoned off.
Ah but you forget, as proven in a few episodes, Vegeta can breathe in space. As for Trunks......maybe it's genetic.

Oh yea and about the Trunks move, here's a link to a video on youtube of Trunks doing it around the 50 seconds mark. It's from the first Shin Budokai.
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:48 am

Drabaz wrote:As for Trunks......maybe it's genetic.
I will stab the next person saying something is genetic that any fool with 10 minutes and wikipedia can say isn't. I will stab, I will twist, and I will probably drive off the deep end and eat you. So don't do it.

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Post by Kaboom » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:53 am

Rocketman wrote:
Drabaz wrote:As for Trunks......maybe it's genetic.
I will stab the next person saying something is genetic that any fool with 10 minutes and wikipedia can say isn't. I will stab, I will twist, and I will probably drive off the deep end and eat you. So don't do it.
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Post by Drabaz » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:54 am

Rocketman wrote:I will stab the next person saying something is genetic that any fool with 10 minutes and wikipedia can say isn't. I will stab, I will twist, and I will probably drive off the deep end and eat you. So don't do it.
Haha. I was kidding about that. But I geuss it's my fathers fault. He kids a lot....probably genetic :lol:
I'll stop right there if you stop right there :)

Anyway, back on topic. Does anybody think they'll add battle damage to this game, because so far none of the videos show any in-game battle damage.
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Post by Captain Awesome » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:56 am

I doubt we'll get any battle damage, maybe as an alternate costume?, it would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

What I am concerned about is the game being 720p only, I was hoping they would bring back the cel-outlines on the characters, but if they can only get the game to run at decent clip at 720p, they certainly can't double the polycount of the character models to do the cel outline.

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Post by Herms » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:19 am

Rocketman wrote:
Drabaz wrote:As for Trunks......maybe it's genetic.
I will stab the next person saying something is genetic that any fool with 10 minutes and wikipedia can say isn't. I will stab, I will twist, and I will probably drive off the deep end and eat you. So don't do it.
Why wouldn't the ability to survive in space be genetic? Unless you were objecting to the fact that he worded it as "breath in space", but that has more to do with contradictions in terms than with genetics.

I'd tell you to calm down, but we all know that this is important.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:23 am

Herms wrote: I'd tell you to calm down, but we all know that this is important.
Hahaha!

I can actually relate to that, though much more in my younger years, now I'm inclined to just give up.

Back on topic, concerning the ultimates, have they all gone the way of Shin Budokai?, or do you think there will still be cinematic ultimates, I enjoyed the change in Shin Budokai, but I know I would start to miss them with all the new eye candy in Burst Limit.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:41 am

Herms wrote:Why wouldn't the ability to survive in space be genetic?
Because anybody can survive in space, until they need to breathe. And if Vegeta doesn't need to breathe, then there's some major compatibility issues with a certain oxygen-gulping hominid that prevents Trunks from ever existing.
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Post by sangofe » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:51 am

This scan says 35 characters.

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