Noah wrote:Exactly, also I don't think that was Belmod as he and Beerus never interacted in the ToP after all. Quitela being the one who beat Beerus in an arm wrestling is more plausible since Beerus (anime), noted how he "wasn't good with that guy," and surprisingly didn't retort against Quitela's snarky remark about U7 during the tournament. Whis never implied that Belmod was strong than Beerus. We know that Jiren is stronger than the GoD from Universe 11, but not all GoDs.
Yes, thank you. Everything you stated is story fact from A to Z. The anime and manga coincide on this.
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Miracles wrote:
Pannaliciour wrote:It doesnt matter if he lost only in arm wrestling. Whis said Jiren might be above GoD tier before he powered up full power. And then Jiren gets another power up on top on his full power. He is above beerus. And nobody contradicts Whis about thus statement.
Whis stated Jiren is only stronger than Belmound. Has nothing to do with Beerus.
miguelnuva1 wrote:It was said that UI Goku might be stronger than Beerus and that same guy smokes Jiren.
Exactly. It's only questionable if UI Goku who beat Jiren is stronger than Beerus, it's an unknown.
Wow really, Whis stated that Jiren is GoD tier ( no specific name wich one of the GoD. Then he said perhaps even above. You see never ever he mention Belmouth. The context is that he is not (only) above his GoD but above GoD tier: so each one. Beerus is a GoD so therfore beerus << Jiren.
Ki Breaker wrote:If SSBE & kaioken are not in the movie, will the anime still be considered the main product/ continuation?
If they do not retell the movie in a new Super show, yes. If they retell the movie and include the anime originals, then they will most likely include the cut parts of the original script, making the retelling also closer to Toriyama’s original vision and thus the retelling will be considered a more complete version.
In any case, the anime will continue being the main product. Both the anime and manga are continuations.
Gosh I can already picture that happening, but please no more retellings for God's sake.
Jesus-is Lord wrote:[he anime is not and never was the...okay let me not say "never"... but the TV show isn't the main continuity, anymore. May you please stop spreading this lie around? The manga and tv show are both canon, and neither one is more canon then the other.
That's not a lie, pal. The anime came first and it's not adapted from a weekly manga, Super manga only serves to promote the latter. Saying that the anime is the main product is not an opinion, but a fact.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I wouldn't mind if the movie was adapted into the next arc of Super to get things rolling again. Just so long as they cut down on the padding. That's what the BoG and RoF suffered most from. All the additional padding to drag out the run time and episode length for each season. If they had instead turned their focus away from spectacle and padding and instead on helping the new animation team improve and get up to speed, DBS probably would've gotten ahead a lot quicker and more smoothly.
Though still, I also hope they adapt more of Toriyama's original script so that the lore is expanded. Just so long as it's not all pointless fluff. Keep it interesting, just don't hang on it for five episodes.
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YamiGoku wrote:For the love of god, please, if they have to make a retelling of this movie, let them use the movie footage... pleeeease.
Honestly outside episode 5 the BoG retelling wasn't that bad from an animation standpoint. Compared to RoF it was amazing
To be fair, some of Super's BoG arc looked better than the movie in many ways. Episodes 1, 2, and 13(the "on model" episodes), while not much better, does look better than the "on model" scenes in the movie. Episode 6 was far better storyboarded than the movie, and episodes 11 and 14 are far better animated than 90% the movie.
YamiGoku wrote:For the love of god, please, if they have to make a retelling of this movie, let them use the movie footage... pleeeease.
Honestly outside episode 5 the BoG retelling wasn't that bad from an animation standpoint. Compared to RoF it was amazing
To be fair, some of Super's BoG arc looked better than the movie in many ways. Episodes 1, 2, and 13(the "on model" episodes), while not much better, does look better than the "on model" scenes in the movie. Episode 6 was far better storyboarded than the movie, and episodes 11 and 14 are far better animated than 90% the movie.
Noah wrote:Exactly, also I don't think that was Belmod as he and Beerus never interacted in the ToP after all. Quitela being the one who beat Beerus in an arm wrestling is more plausible since Beerus (anime), noted how he "wasn't good with that guy," and surprisingly didn't retort against Quitela's snarky remark about U7 during the tournament. Whis never implied that Belmod was strong than Beerus. We know that Jiren is stronger than the GoD from Universe 11, but not all GoDs.
Yes, thank you. Everything you stated is story fact from A to Z. The anime and manga coincide on this.
Pannaliciour wrote:
Miracles wrote:
Whis stated Jiren is only stronger than Belmound. Has nothing to do with Beerus.
Exactly. It's only questionable if UI Goku who beat Jiren is stronger than Beerus, it's an unknown.
Wow really, Whis stated that Jiren is GoD tier ( no specific name wich one of the GoD. Then he said perhaps even above. You see never ever he mention Belmouth. The context is that he is not (only) above his GoD but above GoD tier: so each one. Beerus is a GoD so therfore beerus << Jiren.
He's not wrong this year the quality of figures (excluding Bandai) have increased almost 10 fold from anything prior. I'm so glad the movie has come out this year. 2018 has been the best year for quality of figures hopefully things will keep getting better and hopefully we won't every have a dreadful year like 2017 ever again.
YamiGoku wrote:For the love of god, please, if they have to make a retelling of this movie, let them use the movie footage... pleeeease.
Honestly outside episode 5 the BoG retelling wasn't that bad from an animation standpoint. Compared to RoF it was amazing
To be fair, some of Super's BoG arc looked better than the movie in many ways. Episodes 1, 2, and 13(the "on model" episodes), while not much better, does look better than the "on model" scenes in the movie. Episode 6 was far better storyboarded than the movie, and episodes 11 and 14 are far better animated than 90% the movie.
HeroR wrote:
The only god confirmed to have UI in any form is Beerus and even then UI is referred to a form beyond the gods.
Beerus is the only one that showed the ability in the manga, but in the anime all of them can do it. Either way, that’s the only thing that makes Goku different from Vegeta in powerlevel.
Where was it stated in the anime that that all can do it?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
Nevaeh wrote:
Honestly outside episode 5 the BoG retelling wasn't that bad from an animation standpoint. Compared to RoF it was amazing
To be fair, some of Super's BoG arc looked better than the movie in many ways. Episodes 1, 2, and 13(the "on model" episodes), while not much better, does look better than the "on model" scenes in the movie. Episode 6 was far better storyboarded than the movie, and episodes 11 and 14 are far better animated than 90% the movie.
Yes, but I fear for RoF levels of quality.
Resurrection ‘F’ was also heavily outsourced.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
Broly is gonna be one of the good guys. Look at his attire, very hulk like and also the way his character is already being built up in the trailers. I feel a very Avenger like approach coming in super with Broly being the DBZ version of Hulk for his team later on. Also power scaling wise, he will be on par with Jiren
Toonami1998 wrote:Broly is gonna be one of the good guys. Look at his attire, very hulk like and also the way his character is already being built up in the trailers. I feel a very Avenger like approach coming in super with Broly being the DBZ version of Hulk for his team later on. Also power scaling wise, he will be on par with Jiren
No he will be stronger than Jiren, that’s already been stated. “Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are facing is the strongest.” And this naturally includes Jiren.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Ki Breaker wrote:If SSBE & kaioken are not in the movie, will the anime still be considered the main product/ continuation?
If they do not retell the movie in a new Super show, yes. If they retell the movie and include the anime originals, then they will most likely include the cut parts of the original script, making the retelling also closer to Toriyama’s original vision and thus the retelling will be considered a more complete version.
In any case, the anime will continue being the main product. Both the anime and manga are continuations.
Gosh I can already picture that happening, but please no more retellings for God's sake.
Jesus-is Lord wrote:[he anime is not and never was the...okay let me not say "never"... but the TV show isn't the main continuity, anymore. May you please stop spreading this lie around? The manga and tv show are both canon, and neither one is more canon then the other.
That's not a lie, pal. The anime came first and it's not adapted from a weekly manga, Super manga only serves to promote the latter. Saying that the anime is the main product is not an opinion, but a fact.
Too bad it’s not a fact. Can’t believe people are still saying this years after Super began.
