"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:05 pm

Michsi wrote:
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namekiansaiyan wrote: That means Piccolo can get it just like how the Universe 6 Saiyans got Super Saiyan.
I don't think it works that way if we go by piccolo being the less evolved one logic here..
If they literally evolved to posses the Regen ability Piccolo can't get it unless he too evolves, which is not possible because biology
Do you actually think anything in DB would be limited by something like 'it's not scientifically plausible' ?
If we bring in the word evolution in picture then yes, honouring the word's meaning is something I see DB doing..
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Post by Michsi » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:13 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: I don't think it works that way if we go by piccolo being the less evolved one logic here..
If they literally evolved to posses the Regen ability Piccolo can't get it unless he too evolves, which is not possible because biology
Do you actually think anything in DB would be limited by something like 'it's not scientifically plausible' ?
If we bring in the word evolution in picture then yes, honouring the word's meaning is something I see DB doing..
Why would they though? Not to mention that the super healing thing seems to be ki/magic based, like most things related to namekians.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:16 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: I don't think it works that way if we go by piccolo being the less evolved one logic here..
If they literally evolved to posses the Regen ability Piccolo can't get it unless he too evolves, which is not possible because biology
Do you actually think anything in DB would be limited by something like 'it's not scientifically plausible' ?
If we bring in the word evolution in picture then yes, honouring the word's meaning is something I see DB doing..
If Piccolo had the ability and Saonel and Pirina didn't then I could understand Saonel and Pirina not getting it but Piccolo is from the main cast so if anything new gets introduced then Piccolo should get it somehow.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:25 pm

Michsi wrote: Why would they though? Not to mention that the super healing thing seems to be ki/magic based, like most things related to namekians.
The question isn't if they will or not, it's if they do, then they will honor the meaning of the word..
If Universe 6 version is indeed ki based, then they wouldn't have unlimited Regen, there is only so much ki, but that is going into speculation..
namekiansaiyan wrote: If Piccolo had the ability and Saonel and Pirina didn't then I could understand Saonel and Pirina not getting it but Piccolo is from the main cast so if anything new gets introduced then Piccolo should get it somehow.
Jeez mate chill out, he should get it, it's in his favor, but I am 100% positive if it's evolution related, he won't just magically get it on his own..
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Post by Michsi » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:35 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote: Why would they though? Not to mention that the super healing thing seems to be ki/magic based, like most things related to namekians.
The question isn't if they will or not, it's if they do, then they will honor the meaning of the word..
If Universe 6 version is indeed ki based, then they wouldn't have unlimited Regen, there is only so much ki, but that is going into speculation..
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My guess is that it's basically what Dende does, except it's directed inward, so I do think it's ki/magic related.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:39 pm

Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote: Why would they though? Not to mention that the super healing thing seems to be ki/magic based, like most things related to namekians.
The question isn't if they will or not, it's if they do, then they will honor the meaning of the word..
If Universe 6 version is indeed ki based, then they wouldn't have unlimited Regen, there is only so much ki, but that is going into speculation..
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My guess is that it's basically what Dende does, except it's directed inward, so I do think it's ki/magic related.
We will just have to wait and see..
But it's the same Universe with same species but slightly different features situation again, I can't see it being explained any other way than what the saiyans had, especially if it's Toriyama providing the explanation
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Post by Michsi » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:44 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: The question isn't if they will or not, it's if they do, then they will honor the meaning of the word..
If Universe 6 version is indeed ki based, then they wouldn't have unlimited Regen, there is only so much ki, but that is going into speculation..
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My guess is that it's basically what Dende does, except it's directed inward, so I do think it's ki/magic related.
We will just have to wait and see..
But it's the same Universe with same species but slightly different features situation again, I can't see it being explained any other way than what the saiyans had, especially if it's Toriyama providing the explanation

Wait, I think I missed something. Was is specified that the U6 saiyans were evolved. All I know is about that tail thing, but it's the fans that came up with the tailess saiyans being stronger than tailed ones theory. Also, U6 saiyans can pretty much do what U7 saiyans can, they just do it easier.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:49 pm

Michsi wrote: Wait, I think I missed something. Was is specified that the U6 saiyans were evolved. All I know is about that tail thing, but it's the fans that came up with the tailess saiyans being stronger than tailed ones theory..
I remember Cabba saying they evolved to not have tails...
Also, U6 saiyans can pretty much do what U7 saiyans can, they just do it easier
Naah that's just poor execution..
Unless the manga does that too, then good riddance, Freeza, we get another planet full of monkeys for ya here!
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Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:50 pm

HeroR wrote:
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perucho1990 wrote:Androids main fight might likely be Universe 3, and then eliminated by Jiren.
18 already had her main fight. 17 will sure outlast her and won't be falling with her. i doubt they will even team up in the future their power gap is enormous. 18 was promoted to fight with her brother and husband and she did both. time for her to go anytime now. doubt she will eliminate anyone again either.
Didn't you saw that last week?
Don't you mean "say" ? i know what i said doesn't change the fact that 17 will outlast 18 and that all what she was promoted for already happened. she'll get eliminated in a random moment next for sure.

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Post by HeroR » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:55 pm

Lapislettuce wrote:
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Lapislettuce wrote: 18 already had her main fight. 17 will sure outlast her and won't be falling with her. i doubt they will even team up in the future their power gap is enormous. 18 was promoted to fight with her brother and husband and she did both. time for her to go anytime now. doubt she will eliminate anyone again either.
Didn't you saw that last week?
Don't you mean "say" ? i know what i said doesn't change the fact that 17 will outlast 18 and that all what she was promoted for already happened. she'll get eliminated in a random moment next for sure.
But you claimed last week that 18 was going out in 117 because she was hurt and already had shine.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:58 pm

HeroR wrote:
Lapislettuce wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Didn't you saw that last week?
Don't you mean "say" ? i know what i said doesn't change the fact that 17 will outlast 18 and that all what she was promoted for already happened. she'll get eliminated in a random moment next for sure.
But you claimed last week that 18 was going out in 117 because she was hurt and already had shine.
I thought she was going to be eliminated at the end of the episode for sure. but i did expect her to have cool moment with 17 before going down. i did say for a character that has barely been hyped up and didn't even have a proper recruitment episode she had enough eliminations and after last episode i'm 100% sure nothing is left for her. she very hurt,outmatched, already had a big fight. she can always be eliminated in an upcoming episode out of no where.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:18 pm

Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote:
My guess is that it's basically what Dende does, except it's directed inward, so I do think it's ki/magic related.
We will just have to wait and see..
But it's the same Universe with same species but slightly different features situation again, I can't see it being explained any other way than what the saiyans had, especially if it's Toriyama providing the explanation

Wait, I think I missed something. Was is specified that the U6 saiyans were evolved. All I know is about that tail thing, but it's the fans that came up with the tailess saiyans being stronger than tailed ones theory. Also, U6 saiyans can pretty much do what U7 saiyans can, they just do it easier.
In Universe 6 maybe Namekians evolved to only one clan so they have all have the healing ability. It would make sense then that Saonel and Pirina can heal themselves

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:28 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: We will just have to wait and see..
But it's the same Universe with same species but slightly different features situation again, I can't see it being explained any other way than what the saiyans had, especially if it's Toriyama providing the explanation

Wait, I think I missed something. Was is specified that the U6 saiyans were evolved. All I know is about that tail thing, but it's the fans that came up with the tailess saiyans being stronger than tailed ones theory. Also, U6 saiyans can pretty much do what U7 saiyans can, they just do it easier.
In Universe 6 maybe Namekians evolved to only one clan so they have all have the healing ability. It would make sense then that Saonel and Pirina can heal themselves
I am not a fully sure about this, but I remember Dragonball class namekians being the one to give eggs and reproduce and having healing others ability, and warrior class namekians to be the one who fights can't reproduce and have regeneration..

I don't think them being able to heal themselves is the same as having unlimited regeneration, when it's clearly been distinguished before..
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:37 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:

Wait, I think I missed something. Was is specified that the U6 saiyans were evolved. All I know is about that tail thing, but it's the fans that came up with the tailess saiyans being stronger than tailed ones theory. Also, U6 saiyans can pretty much do what U7 saiyans can, they just do it easier.
In Universe 6 maybe Namekians evolved to only one clan so they have all have the healing ability. It would make sense then that Saonel and Pirina can heal themselves
I am not a fully sure about this, but I remember Dragonball class namekians being the one to give eggs and reproduce and having healing others ability, and warrior class namekians to be the one who fights can't reproduce and have regeneration..

I don't think them being able to heal themselves is the same as having unlimited regeneration, when it's clearly been distinguished before..
Saiyans evolved so no reason why Namekians can't. It woulf be so good if Saonel and Pirina can heal

Healing themselves means them taking away the stamina issue it costs to regenerate. I don't think we have seen Dende heal himself before but it could be possible.

Piccolo can attain it because of Kami and he never realised he could do it.

Piccolo could then heal himself from that blast he takes and then he could also heal Goku.

This is surely too good to happen and I am now going to be dissapointed after episode 118.

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Post by TheMikado » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:47 pm

So I'm feeling like the 3 pride troopers will survive to the end, saving their universe and Jiren may get the wish. Probably Goku and Gohan last to the end.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:49 pm

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This is surely too good to happen and I am now going to be dissapointed after episode 118.
Hahaha :lol:
That is true mate, you and I both..
Now I can't help but imagine your reaction when watching the episode, pardon me while I switch your face to this to maximize the experience
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Post by Noah » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:43 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:As for everything else, I'm basing that on what we're seeing on-screen. Maybe not so much the him being unable to catch up to the angels thing, but Goku really hasn't shown interest in fighting Hit since Jiren and Toppo were introduced. Hit will be pretty much fodder trash once Goku is capable of mastering Ultra Instinct.
Sorry, but you're wrong:

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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:48 pm

This is all just a wait for Goku vs Jiren part 2.

Goku vs Beerus part 1 took 1 episode. Same with Goku vs Cauliflo and Kale part 1. Goku vs Jiren part 1 took 2 episodes.

So, Goku vs Beerus part 2 took 5 episodes (6 if you count the episode where Goku finally transformed into a SSG at the end of the episode).
Then, Goku vs Cauliflo and Kale part 2 took 4 episodes (5 if you count the episode where Cauliflo announced her intentions to fight Goku at the end of the episode).

While this is not necessarily indicative of anything, I'm willing to guess that Goku vs Jiren part 2 is gonna take 6 or 7 episodes. Or at least 5. Which makes sense, given that you don't introduce a monster like Jiren and have him be taken down in like 2 or 3 episodes. Now that'll be true Goku vs Freeza on Namek time right there.

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Post by precita » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:51 pm

The 3 Pride Troopers look like they won't do any more fighting till everyone else is gone, so they'll be the last 3 fighters standing for whoever on U7 remains by the end.

Hell it may be Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Freeza and maybe 17 against 3 of them. It'd be like 5 against 3...even if Jiren is much more powerful than everyone.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:00 pm

Noah wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:As for everything else, I'm basing that on what we're seeing on-screen. Maybe not so much the him being unable to catch up to the angels thing, but Goku really hasn't shown interest in fighting Hit since Jiren and Toppo were introduced. Hit will be pretty much fodder trash once Goku is capable of mastering Ultra Instinct.
Sorry, but you're wrong:

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Okay, well, you just objection'd me. I got nothing. Lol.

Doesn't take away from what I said about Uub though.
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