The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:51 pm

The way I figure it, Movie 8 LSSj Broly is about as strong as full-power Cell and would get rocked by any SSj2 in the series. Movie 10 LSSj Broly, though, would have a very slight edge in power over even the Boo-arc SSj2s.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:52 pm

In movie 8 theres a blatant example of Broly dodging. He stands on the tip of a building with his arms folded while he dodges a flurry of attacks by Goku and Piccolo at the same time.

I also think Movie 10 Broly and SSJ2 Kid Gohan could go either way. I have SSJ2 Kid Gohan (at 100% health) twice as strong as Super Perfect Cell, I feel like Gohan being crippled put them at an even playing field, which is still arguable because Gohan apparently had enough extra power that he was afraid to unleash until Goku gave him the que thanks to Vegeta's distraction.

Anyways I have SSJ2 teen Gohan at SPC's level which means as a teen (pre Kaioshin power up) at max Gohan is only half as strong as he was as kid.
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Post by MDSTSSJ » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:15 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:.I also think Movie 10 Broly and SSJ2 Kid Gohan could go either way. I have SSJ2 Kid Gohan (at 100% health) twice as strong as Super Perfect Cell
Mmm that´s too much power for Gohan compared with Super Perfect Cell.

Super Perfect Cell have the same or very very close power than SSJ2 Gohan. Why? Because he fought a close match against a full power SSJ Goku and when Gohan came, Perfect Cell increase even more his ki. What comes after the full power SSJ1? SSJ2 right?

Gohan was wounded and in the final blast between Super Perfect Cell and him, SP Cell is pretty much confident to kill Gohan and we see that. If Gohan had not been wounded, we could say that they were more evenly matched in that final blast. Besides, Gohan defeats SP Cell thanks to Vegeta.

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Post by Draken » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:22 pm

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goku the krump dancer wrote:.I also think Movie 10 Broly and SSJ2 Kid Gohan could go either way. I have SSJ2 Kid Gohan (at 100% health) twice as strong as Super Perfect Cell
Mmm that´s too much power for Gohan compared with Super Perfect Cell.

Super Perfect Cell have the same or very very close power than SSJ2 Gohan. Why? Because he fought a close match against a full power SSJ Goku and when Gohan came, Perfect Cell increase even more his ki. What comes after the full power SSJ1? SSJ2 right?

Gohan was wounded and in the final blast between Super Perfect Cell and him, SP Cell is pretty much confident to kill Gohan and we see that. If Gohan had not been wounded, we could say that they were more evenly matched in that final blast. Besides, Gohan defeats SP Cell thanks to Vegeta.
Not exactly. Gohan was still holding back even when he was injured because he was scared, and after Vegeta blasts Cell, Goku tells him it's his chance and encourages him to not be scared and use his full power, which was more than enough to take out Cell. Also, I'm not sure if this is just fanslation because I haven't read the manga in forever, but didn't they say Gohan's power dropped in half when he lost the use of his arm? Yet he was still stronger than Cell. He had a rage boost on top of his 2x powerup.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:09 pm

Yeah, Gohan said he lost "less than half" his Chi.
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Post by Draken » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:06 pm

Would Chi-Chi vs Videl be even close, or stomp in Chi-Chi too easily?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:05 pm

Draken wrote:Would Chi-Chi vs Videl be even close, or stomp in Chi-Chi too easily?
Chi-Chi would crush Videl effortlessly.
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Post by rereboy » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:11 pm

I agree.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:09 pm

What has Chi-Chi done that Videl couldn't hope to ever be able to achieve, push a button on her Razor hat?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:31 pm

Chi chi would crush Videl.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:41 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:What has Chi-Chi done that Videl couldn't hope to ever be able to achieve, push a button on her Razor hat?
She got to the quarter-finals in a budokai where competent fighters participated. She had better feats in said tournament than Chappa, who was said to be a threat to Goku during the 22nd Budokai. She was taught Turtle-school techniques, while Videl is likely either self taught, or was taught by her father. Videl's only advantage is that she can fly, but it's not like that would help her to win.
Also, Chi-Chi's power level has been given in both Weekly Jump and V-Jump as being in the 130's, only slightly weaker than Master Roshi when he first appeared. Videl wouldn't stand a chance.
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:05 pm

Yeah, I generally agree. Videl's got some ki-usage skills, most notably flight. But Chi-Chi's got her severely outclassed in raw power. Videl could only hope to stalemate her by flying out of her range.


Here's a fun matchup... Nappa VS. 6 Saibaimen

Let's suppose that the 6 Saibaimen seeds were past their expiration date, and the freakish plant-critters end up defective and all turn on Nappa after they sprout. The Earthlings are relieved and Vegeta is amused, so none of them step in to help either side. For the sake of the versus, just go with Nappa's official PL of 4000. Is his multi-fold advantage over the Saibaimen's 1200 each enough to stomp them all at once, or will their strength in numbers prevail?
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Post by Draken » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Pretty sure Nappa would stomp. As DBZ has shown time and time again, numbers don't help at all when the gap between powers is that large. He'd crush them.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:36 pm

Draken wrote:Pretty sure Nappa would stomp. As DBZ has shown time and time again, numbers don't help at all when the gap between powers is that large. He'd crush them.
I agree. Maybe they'd be able to accomplish something if they all self-destructed on him at once, but I doubt it. Nappa stomps.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:22 pm

If the Saibamen are capable of working together, they could maybe do something - Piccolo and Krillin's team attack laid a beating on Nappa, remember.

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:28 pm

Yeah, I think Nappa would be able to take up to like 3 or 4 Saibaimen for sure, but I figured all 6 of them at once might at least prove challenging.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:39 pm

Rocketman wrote:If the Saibamen are capable of working together, they could maybe do something - Piccolo and Krillin's team attack laid a beating on Nappa, remember.
They took him by surprise, but I don't think it really hurt him. Piccolo did the same thing to Freeza, and Trunks to Fat Buu, but no damage was done in either case.
Nappa was taking hits from Goku, who was stronger than all of the Saibamen combined. Unless they blow themselves up, I don't see them accomplishing anything.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:23 pm

I don't know if this is allowed, but what about Zen Buu (from the DBM webcomic) vs. Bills?
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Post by Draken » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:08 pm

I don't think all of them self-destructing would do much more than make Nappa's job even easier.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:46 pm

If a Saibaman's suicide attack has a similar multiplier to Chiaotzu's, six should be enough to down Nappa.
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