BlazingBarrrager wrote:Random question: how come people draw Gogeta in his SSJ form? I mean the movie "Fusion Reborn" did give us a look at his base form's face and hair (a bit more pudgy). Is Vegetto's appearance too similar to Gogeta and they do it to give an easier time with telling between the two, or is this simply how people want to draw Gogeta?
He is never shown in his base form be it in the movie, GT or video games. Only Veku has been shown in base and some consider them different characters for whatever reason.
It has nothing to do with him looking similar Vegetto, it's just the way people know him best.
You would think Heroes would give him a base form but nope! Give that guy a Golden Oozaru form instead!
We may never see Gogeta "officially" in his base form...
"I am neither Goku nor Vegeta! I am the one who will defeat you!!" - Gogeta
I will absolutely never understand why fans or the official franchise people consider "Veku" a thing. It was a comment made by South Kaio, and the the lord of pudge even calls himself Gogeta as far as I remember from the subs...
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I will absolutely never understand why fans or the official franchise people consider "Veku" a thing. It was a comment made by South Kaio, and the the lord of pudge even calls himself Gogeta as far as I remember from the subs...
I'll never understand it either, but hey what can you do.
Some even say that his SSJ form is his base form.
"I am neither Goku nor Vegeta! I am the one who will defeat you!!" - Gogeta
They're completely wrong, thankfully I never see people claiming that. Gogeta indeed has a base, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan 4 forms (and Golden Great Ape, if you want ). We just need to wait for him to appear... If ever he will appear.
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:To most people this is Gogeta.
Anything else is completely different.
I never got how people could think that. It's like saying Goku only has one form and the others are all different characters (which, I suppose, is true according to some games). I guess it's different because we actually see them in the show, but we see SSJ4 Gogeta in GT. I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I will absolutely never understand why fans or the official franchise people consider "Veku" a thing. It was a comment made by South Kaio, and the the lord of pudge even calls himself Gogeta as far as I remember from the subs...
I think it's just to separate the two versions. It'd be weird to use "Fat Gogeta" when there already is a given name.
Also I don't think he calls himself by a name in any of the dubs or the original japanese.
Why? They address the fat and thin versions of Gotenks by the same name, and Piccolo called one of them Trunkten or whatever. It just doesn't make sense at all.
I'm almost certain he refers to himself as Gogeta in the Funimation subtitles after he's punched in the face, I just don't remember if the movie had dubtitles or not.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
Oh yeah, he does call himself Gogeta-sama in the Japanese version. I never really paid attention to that. The FUNi dub was the one where he doesn't call himself anything.
But about everyone calling him "Veku", I'm pretty much repeating what I said before, but I think it's just a conventional and useful way to separate him from the others. I'm sure that people know the name "Veku" better than "Fat Gogeta". It's canon, and not a fanmade name, so I guess it supports that too.
(With Piccolo calling Gotenks "Trunkten" at first, I'm 99% sure it was only because he didn't know his 'official' name before Popo corrected him.)
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
). We just need to wait for him to appear... If ever he will appear. 
