"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:27 am

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:Gohan hasn't done anything of note in the T.o.P and people still don't want him to get some eliminations, whatt? :lol:
His best feats were beating and struggled for like 2 minutes before eliminating Obuni.
He really can't go further without 'stealing the spotlight' from Piccolo, and there's people saying his role is fan service, wow :?
IDK about you guys, but as a fan of Gohan, I'm pretty disappointed, he couldn't even deal with I.T
This should be Piccolo's fight and Piccolo has been been trested worse then Gohan with only one 15 second fight.

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Post by TheGreatSaiyaman » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:43 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:Gohan hasn't done anything of note in the T.o.P and people still don't want him to get some eliminations, whatt? :lol:
His best feats were beating and struggled for like 2 minutes before eliminating Obuni.
He really can't go further without 'stealing the spotlight' from Piccolo, and there's people saying his role is fan service, wow :?
IDK about you guys, but as a fan of Gohan, I'm pretty disappointed, he couldn't even deal with I.T
This should be Piccolo's fight and Piccolo has been been trested worse then Gohan with only one 15 second fight.
Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:48 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:Killing won't really bring anything to the tournament now.
Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote: Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
I can almost assure you that gohan is here to stay till the end, that happens with or without him fighting someone..
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:56 am

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:Gohan hasn't done anything of note in the T.o.P and people still don't want him to get some eliminations, whatt? :lol:
His best feats were beating and struggled for like 2 minutes before eliminating Obuni.
He really can't go further without 'stealing the spotlight' from Piccolo, and there's people saying his role is fan service, wow :?
IDK about you guys, but as a fan of Gohan, I'm pretty disappointed, he couldn't even deal with I.T
This should be Piccolo's fight and Piccolo has been been trested worse then Gohan with only one 15 second fight.
Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
They should get to take out 1 each. It is ridiculous how little these 2 have done.

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Post by omaro34 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:25 am

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namekiansaiyan wrote:Killing won't really bring anything to the tournament now.
Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
A lot of the eliminations have been killing moves to me. The big kamehameha to the face of Kefla surprisingly didn't kill her.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:33 am

omaro34 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Killing won't really bring anything to the tournament now.
Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
A lot of the eliminations have been killing moves to me. The big kamehameha to the face of Kefla surprisingly didn't kill her.
And then there's things like Krillin firing kienzans and Piccolo shooting makankosappos in a no-killing tournament. It makes little sense.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:34 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
This should be Piccolo's fight and Piccolo has been been trested worse then Gohan with only one 15 second fight.
Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
They should get to take out 1 each. It is ridiculous how little these 2 have done.
There is such an easy way to turn this into a positive thing for both these characters. All they have to do is say that Piccolo and Gohan had decided beforehand to be the ones from the group to play it safe. Since the winner is decided by the number of fighters you have left at the end, it makes sense to have a few that should focus more on staying in the ring rather than on eliminating others. There's no way you'd convince characters like Goku, Vegeta or Freeza to keep a low profile, and we saw that 17 and 18 aren't really team players either. They'd leave the eliminations up to those, while Piccolo and Gohan make sure they keep U7 overall number up. Piccolo and Gohan are rational, it wouldn't be OOC for them to think like that.

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Post by Whatever » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:39 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Killing won't really bring anything to the tournament now.
Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote: Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
I can almost assure you that gohan is here to stay till the end, that happens with or without him fighting someone..
Damn you and namekiansaiyan have bigger hope than Trunks,you should team up sometime.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:44 am

omaro34 wrote: A lot of the eliminations have been killing moves to me.
Like?
I don't recall anything directly fatal being thrown at characters which actually landed or did something..
The big kamehameha to the face of Kefla surprisingly didn't kill her.
Surprisingly.. :lol:
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Ki Breaker wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Killing won't really bring anything to the tournament now.
Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote: Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
I can almost assure you that gohan is here to stay till the end, that happens with or without him fighting someone..
Damn you and namekiansaiyan have bigger hope than Trunks,you should team up sometime.
Nope, it's just that you refuse to accept Gohan or his master as your Lord and savior and still worship a dead pirate..
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:51 am

Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheGreatSaiyaman wrote: Not that I don't agree, but this is Gohan's fight too and he hasn't fought anyone properly for almost the entirety of Super, we can't just exclude him from the fight, we have to see where the story goes.
They should get to take out 1 each. It is ridiculous how little these 2 have done.
There is such an easy way to turn this into a positive thing for both these characters. All they have to do is say that Piccolo and Gohan had decided beforehand to be the ones from the group to play it safe. Since the winner is decided by the number of fighters you have left at the end, it makes sense to have a few that should focus more on staying in the ring rather than on eliminating others. There's no way you'd convince characters like Goku, Vegeta or Freeza to keep a low profile, and we saw that 17 and 18 aren't really team players either. They'd leave the eliminations up to those, while Piccolo and Gohan make sure they keep U7 overall number up. Piccolo and Gohan are rational, it wouldn't be OOC for them to think like that.
Even if they are playing it safe they can't avoid fights if they arise and it has been 33 minutes so far and we have seen them basically do nothing.

Also above everything else we want to see them beat people up which is the same for any other fighting character and is why most of us watch Dragon Ball. Didn't Piccolo also want to fight strong fighters before the tournament started?

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Post by Michsi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:12 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
They should get to take out 1 each. It is ridiculous how little these 2 have done.
There is such an easy way to turn this into a positive thing for both these characters. All they have to do is say that Piccolo and Gohan had decided beforehand to be the ones from the group to play it safe. Since the winner is decided by the number of fighters you have left at the end, it makes sense to have a few that should focus more on staying in the ring rather than on eliminating others. There's no way you'd convince characters like Goku, Vegeta or Freeza to keep a low profile, and we saw that 17 and 18 aren't really team players either. They'd leave the eliminations up to those, while Piccolo and Gohan make sure they keep U7 overall number up. Piccolo and Gohan are rational, it wouldn't be OOC for them to think like that.
Even if they are playing it safe they can't avoid fights if they arise and it has been 33 minutes so far and we have seen them basically do nothing.

Also above everything else we want to see them beat people up which is the same for any other fighting character and is why most of us watch Dragon Ball. Didn't Piccolo also want to fight strong fighters before the tournament started?
Of course, but I wanted to point out that even if they remain the ones with the lowest elimination count, there is a way to make this work in their favor.

As for Piccolo, just because he seemed excited to participate in the tournament doesn't mean he'd suddenly forgo caution or reason for the sake of a good fight. That's Goku and Vegeta's shtick. It's not like he's running away from his opponents, just not going out of his way to find them when he doesn't have to. When he does end up in a fight, he's obviously looking forward to it.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:18 am

Tomorrow we get WSJ episode 119 preview, looking forward to see who will be targeted by the Cicadas.

18, Piccolo, 17, Gohan?

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:28 am

Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:
There is such an easy way to turn this into a positive thing for both these characters. All they have to do is say that Piccolo and Gohan had decided beforehand to be the ones from the group to play it safe. Since the winner is decided by the number of fighters you have left at the end, it makes sense to have a few that should focus more on staying in the ring rather than on eliminating others. There's no way you'd convince characters like Goku, Vegeta or Freeza to keep a low profile, and we saw that 17 and 18 aren't really team players either. They'd leave the eliminations up to those, while Piccolo and Gohan make sure they keep U7 overall number up. Piccolo and Gohan are rational, it wouldn't be OOC for them to think like that.
Even if they are playing it safe they can't avoid fights if they arise and it has been 33 minutes so far and we have seen them basically do nothing.

Also above everything else we want to see them beat people up which is the same for any other fighting character and is why most of us watch Dragon Ball. Didn't Piccolo also want to fight strong fighters before the tournament started?
Of course, but I wanted to point out that even if they remain the ones with the lowest elimination count, there is a way to make this work in their favor.
They actually have to show and say why we are not seeing Piccolo and Gohan if they are playing it safe. All I see with these 2 right now is they are here just to make the numbers and that Piccolo might as well not have been in the tournament at all and everything with Gohan has been false hype.
perucho1990 wrote:Tomorrow we get WSJ episode 119 preview, looking forward to see who will be targeted by the Cicadas.

18, Piccolo, 17, Gohan?
Everyone knows it should be 18 after everything she has had so far.

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Post by Hawk9211 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:34 am

perucho1990 wrote:Tomorrow we get WSJ episode 119 preview, looking forward to see who will be targeted by the Cicadas.

18, Piccolo, 17, Gohan?
18 and sure as hell it isn't something green.
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Post by Michsi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:38 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: They actually have to show and say why we are not seeing Piccolo and Gohan if they are playing it safe. All I see with these 2 right now is they are here just to make the numbers and that Piccolo might as well not have been in the tournament at all and everything with Gohan has been false hype.
Naw, I liked what I've seen so far, considering he's not been the focus. It all hinges on what this week's episode brings, then I'll decide if he's truly been wasted this arc or not.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:50 am

Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote: They actually have to show and say why we are not seeing Piccolo and Gohan if they are playing it safe. All I see with these 2 right now is they are here just to make the numbers and that Piccolo might as well not have been in the tournament at all and everything with Gohan has been false hype.
Naw, I liked what I've seen so far, considering he's not been the focus. It all hinges on what this week's episode brings, then I'll decide if he's truly been wasted this arc or not.
Everyone else so far has performed better than him so far so that is why I am that happy with what he has been.

If Piccolo doesn't get the win in episode 118 then he will probably never get any proper win again. Gohan getting all the glory here is just completely wrong.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:54 am

Piccolo eliminates Saonel, Gohan gets Pirina.

Like how 18 got Brinanne and 17 got Rozie.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:58 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote: They actually have to show and say why we are not seeing Piccolo and Gohan if they are playing it safe. All I see with these 2 right now is they are here just to make the numbers and that Piccolo might as well not have been in the tournament at all and everything with Gohan has been false hype.
Naw, I liked what I've seen so far, considering he's not been the focus. It all hinges on what this week's episode brings, then I'll decide if he's truly been wasted this arc or not.
Everyone else so far has performed better than him so far so that is why I am that happy with what he has been.

If Piccolo doesn't get the win in episode 118 then he will probably never get any proper win again. Gohan getting all the glory here is just completely wrong.
I'm not really seeing the glory Gohan is getting either though. He's doing just a bit better than Piccolo for now, but he is also supposed to be the stronger of the two.
perucho1990 wrote:Piccolo eliminates Saonel, Gohan gets Pirina.
They seemed to be paired up the other way around though.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Piccolo eliminates Saonel, Gohan gets Pirina.

Like how 18 got Brinanne and 17 got Rozie.
If Gohan is going Ultimate then Piccolo is not knocking either out unless he gets a power up out of nowhere as Saonel and Piriana have been presented as equal so far.

17 and 18 were both stronger than Rozie and Ribrianne and that is the dìfference.
Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Naw, I liked what I've seen so far, considering he's not been the focus. It all hinges on what this week's episode brings, then I'll decide if he's truly been wasted this arc or not.
Everyone else so far has performed better than him so far so that is why I am that happy with what he has been.

If Piccolo doesn't get the win in episode 118 then he will probably never get any proper win again. Gohan getting all the glory here is just completely wrong.
I'm not really seeing the glory Gohan is getting either though. He's doing just a bit better than Piccolo for now, but he is also supposed to be the stronger of the two.
perucho1990 wrote:Piccolo eliminates Saonel, Gohan gets Pirina.
They seemed to be paired up the other way around though.
I am talking about if Gohan gets the glory of knocking out Saonel and Pirina.

If Piccolo is getting hit by that blast by Pirina then Piccolo is getting nothing unless he somehow heals himself and gets stronger.

Do you think that Pirina could actually be in his giant form at the end of the preview when he takes Piccolo's attack?

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Post by kinisking » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:15 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: Yeah true, Cauliflowa is already out..
A lot of the eliminations have been killing moves to me. The big kamehameha to the face of Kefla surprisingly didn't kill her.
And then there's things like Krillin firing kienzans and Piccolo shooting makankosappos in a no-killing tournament. It makes little sense.
They're holding back in order to not kill. And in krillins case he didn't even get a direct hit, and he can control it to make sure that it's a diversion and not a killing move.
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