Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Chuquita » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:22 am

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I'm going to go with the boring answer of "it's just a regeneration tank; Freeza's coming off of healing from another hard day of training".
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:27 am

dbzfan7 wrote:I'd rather it be a clone body or something with Freeza's soul. If we get something dumb like Freeza training in hell or getting so ridiculously strong in a short period of time via training, I'll lose it.
??? Goku went from struggling with Raditz to fighting Freeza in like a year didn't he? Freeza has a battle power of 120,000,000 without ever training a day in his life. 14 years of being dead should be enough for him to become however strong the story needs him to be. If he increased as much as Goku does, from his starting point, he'll show you all why he's the strongest in the universe.

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Post by Zelvin » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:27 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Speaking of English voice actors, I totally want to see Eddie Frierson back voicing Freeza with the same voice that he used back in 1997 :clap: :lol: .
No we gotta have LittleKuriboh as Freeza. :D
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:33 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:I'd rather it be a clone body or something with Freeza's soul. If we get something dumb like Freeza training in hell or getting so ridiculously strong in a short period of time via training, I'll lose it.
??? Goku went from struggling with Raditz to fighting Freeza in like a year didn't he? Freeza has a battle power of 120,000,000 without ever training a day in his life. 14 years of being dead should be enough for him to become however strong the story needs him to be.
The problem is, you aren't supposed to keep your body in Hell.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:06 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:I'd rather it be a clone body or something with Freeza's soul. If we get something dumb like Freeza training in hell or getting so ridiculously strong in a short period of time via training, I'll lose it.
??? Goku went from struggling with Raditz to fighting Freeza in like a year didn't he? Freeza has a battle power of 120,000,000 without ever training a day in his life. 14 years of being dead should be enough for him to become however strong the story needs him to be. If he increased as much as Goku does, from his starting point, he'll show you all why he's the strongest in the universe.
You don't keep your body in hell. That's an anime only thing so he wouldn't have 14 years. Also he would need some damn good sparing partners considering self training isn't that good in comparison to having a teacher or sparing partner.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:10 am

Freeza could still have a lot of high tech stuff at his HQ planet. If Freeza returns back to his planet after being wished back then he can find ways to catch up to Goku and the others in a year. I hope they do Freeza's training well and explain why he got so strong seeing that he would be powerful enough to one shot Cell now.
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Post by ZazamPow » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:35 am

Freeza's training montage better include a sweatsuit.
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:40 am

The "you don't keep your body in Hell" thing can easily be explained away. For instance: isn't it Piccolo who says that? You could write it off as "so, what does he know? So he was Earth's God, big whoop. That's like lower level management." Also Enma Daio mentions that Dabura would like Hell too much, so he sent him to heaven instead... this line was in the manga, not just the anime. It implies there are general exceptions to the rules... Maybe someone who's killed as many billions as Freeza kept his body on purpose so he could suffer for eternity? It doesn't take that big a stretch of the imagination to come up with excuses.

I'm amazed how rigid some fans are with the established continuity of Dragon Ball, considering that Toriyama himself keeps contradicting stuff left and right, as long as it makes it more fun. Can't you guys just go with the flow? Ignorance is bliss.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:46 am

Knowing Toryiama, he will likely he go by his rules on how the DB universe then what Toei created.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:47 am

FindKenshi wrote: Also Enma Daio mentions that Dabura would like Hell too much, so he sent him to heaven instead... this line was in the manga, not just the anime. It implies there are general exceptions to the rules...
How does that imply anything?
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Post by FindKenshi » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:52 am

FatNagger69 wrote:
FindKenshi wrote: Also Enma Daio mentions that Dabura would like Hell too much, so he sent him to heaven instead... this line was in the manga, not just the anime. It implies there are general exceptions to the rules...
How does that imply anything?
How could Dabura enjoy or not enjoy hell if you lose your body and get cleansed and reincarnated? Also it implies there are exceptions, just like I said. Piccolo never said "but really, really bad people go to heaven because they'd like Hell." No, Enma apparently can make exceptions. Like he did for Freeza.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Knowing Toryiama, he will likely he go by his rules on how the DB universe then what Toei created.
Assuming he even remembers them... it's much more obscure than SSj3 which he already forgot :P
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Post by Mewzard » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:56 am

FindKenshi wrote:How could Dabura enjoy or not enjoy hell if you lose your body and get cleansed and reincarnated?

Assuming he even remembers them... it's much more obscure than SSj3 which he already forgot :P
I thought it was he forgot what SSJ2 was and thought SSJ3 was SSJ2.

And there's a lot of possibilities as to what could happen. He could be revived years prior to his actual assault on Earth, spending the time gathering his forces and training. He could have found a way to train in Hell (perhaps there is a way). Perhaps it has something to do with the wish that brought him back.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:00 am

FindKenshi wrote:How could Dabura enjoy or not enjoy hell if you lose your body and get cleansed and reincarnated?
I think you're assuming that souls are not sentient and/or experience nothingness, which isn't the case from what we see. Reincarnation doesn't happen immediately, and unless this movie bends the rules of Other World, we'll be able to say with certainty that it takes many, many years.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:04 am

You know, one things that bothers me so far is Freeza's actual design...

I can understand the regular grunts having old style armor. No one really cares about them and it may take a while to produce new suits for all the ranks. Tagoma and Sorbet have new, advanced armor designs though, while Freeza is still in his old style suit from Namek. Kind of wish he'd have gotten the upgrade too, since he is the head of the organization.

I guess he still could, but I feel like they rather keep the nostalgia.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:07 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:You know, one things that bothers me so far is Freeza's actual design...

I can understand the regular grunts having old style armor. No one really cares about them and it may take a while to produce new suits for all the ranks. Tagoma and Sorbet have new, advanced armor designs though, while Freeza is still in his old style suit from Namek. Kind of wish he'd have gotten the upgrade too, since he is the head of the organization.

I guess he still could, but I feel like they rather keep the nostalgia.
Isn't the armor that Vegeta continues to wear an older model of Freeza's armor?
Sorbet and Tagoma's new armor could be a different kind of old armor.

I would have liked to see his armor changed, though.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:09 am

I'm probably gonna hate the reason for Freeza's growth aren't I...
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:11 am

FatNagger69 wrote:Isn't the armor that Vegeta continues to wear an older model of Freeza's armor?
Sorbet and Tagoma's new armor could be a different kind of old armor.

I would have liked to see his armor changed, though.
We were told in the announcement along with their designs that the models are new.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:11 am

dbzfan7 wrote:I'm probably gonna hate the reason for Freeza's growth aren't I...
We probably all will.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:We were told in the announcement along with their designs that the models are new.
Huh. I missed that.「最新型の戦闘服」is definitely conclusive.
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Post by Vice » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:19 am

So that's it? Freeza becomes Super Saiyan God-level just by training a little bit? Jesus, fuck this movie.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:22 am

Vice wrote:So that's it? Freeza becomes Super Saiyan God-level just by training a little bit? Jesus, fuck this movie.
We don't know yet.
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