"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Kishido]

And seriously what the fuck is this shit. Goku going red super saiyan god just to turn SSJSS again?

Cancel this shit

[Xeztin]

We now have all the new forms in both the old and new outfits.

We still don't have Ssj2&3.

I meant the newer forms SSG and SSJB, we'll probably see 2 and 3 in Heroes?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Man you probably hate being in Herms spot right now? Talking about this kinda crap you probably don't care much about .

I don't mind. I have my fan rewrite project that I work on, so I have to sort through all sorts of things for the franchise whether I care about them or not.

BTW, I added the rough dialogue to the previous post.

[kinisking]

Damn this is really annoying. I really wish they released Toriyama's outlines.

[sintzu]

We now have all the new forms in both the old and new outfits.

We still don't have Ssj2&3.

I meant the newer forms SSG and SSJB, we'll probably see 2 and 3 in Heroes?

Heroes will probably have every form in outfits no one would think of like Vegeta's pink shirt.

[ekrolo2]

Does Heroes make a habit of inventing completely new forms? I know they give existing ones to lots of people but they've never straight up made a new one as far as I can tell.

[Bullza]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God."

The chapter goes against what Toriyama said. The anime seems to have it right in this regard anyway.

[Saiyan007]

Chelanto

Toriyama said that would be nice that Toyotaro would bring his own ideas, meaning that he doesn't do this too often, actually. And also has confirmed that he supervises the storyboards from Toyotaro, meaning that they need his approval. He even made Toyotaro change a few things as far as we know. So yes, the manga is closest to Toriyama.

Toyotaro just uses Toriyama's script as an outline and then adds what he feels like adding.At that point it's Toyotaro's work.

Daizenshuu did the same thing heck Toriyama even apprecieateed them beacuse he forgot most of his work but that doesn't mean it's closer to Toriyama's work.

Then to make matters worse the manga is an adaptation of the anime.

People tend to go with whatever fits thier power levels and then claim it came from Toriyama.

It's pointless to me to continue this conversation. You just repeat the same again and again without even quoting a source while I'm talking about an interview with both Toyotaro and Toriyama explaining those things. Pointless. You can't even quote my username, wich is an automatic feature.

Then don't respond to my posts then.Simple.

[dbzfan7]

Man you probably hate being in Herms spot right now? Talking about this kinda crap you probably don't care much about .

I don't mind. I have my fan rewrite project that I work on, so I have to sort through all sorts of things for the franchise whether I care about them or not.

BTW, I added the rough dialogue to the previous post.

Guess that's a bit of a downer. I liked how he increased his capabilities of Time Skip. Seems here he's always limited to just 0.1 seconds.

[Khin]

Does Heroes make a habit of inventing completely new forms? I know they give existing ones to lots of people but they've never straight up made a new one as far as I can tell.

They did a Legendary SS Broli + Oozaru or something like that, a Red-Eyed Namekian form and probably even more.

[Kishido]

The whole chapter makes no sense

[ekrolo2]

Does Heroes make a habit of inventing completely new forms? I know they give existing ones to lots of people but they've never straight up made a new one as far as I can tell.

They did an Oozaru + LSS Broli or something like that, a Red-Eyed Namekian form and probably even more.

Well, the Broly one is just Golden Ooazaru and I think Red-Eyed Namekian is from DBO.

[HeroR]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God."

The chapter goes against what Toriyama said. The anime seems to have it right in this regard anyway.

Thank you for getting the exact quote.

I don't mind the manga being different from the anime, and I do like some stuff Toytoro did. However, what he did here goes against Toriyama's own words and we don't need to see an outline to know that this is what Toriyama said. Maybe Toriyama forgot when he approved this chapter, but this goes against his own writing statement on why Goku doesn't use Super Saiyan God.

[Pannaliciour]

People are cherry picking. You can't say this makes sense so manga should be canon. No. Because both (anime and manga) doesn't make sense at this moment.

Both are canon but when the two contradict each other, the anime is more canon because back then they said the manga is an adaption of the anime. The anime came first then the manga. Dbz was other way around, manga first than the anime.

[Xeztin]

Does Heroes make a habit of inventing completely new forms? I know they give existing ones to lots of people but they've never straight up made a new one as far as I can tell.

They did an Oozaru + LSS Broli or something like that, a Red-Eyed Namekian form and probably even more.

Well, the Broly one is just Golden Ooazaru and I think Red-Eyed Namekian is from DBO.

I'm not sure where Broly's green hair comes from, it's gold everywhere else except with the restriction device. Now his fur and everything is green I think in oozaru mode along with LSSJ3.

[HeroR]

Does Heroes make a habit of inventing completely new forms? I know they give existing ones to lots of people but they've never straight up made a new one as far as I can tell.

They did a Legendary SS Broli + Oozaru or something like that, a Red-Eyed Namekian form and probably even more.

They also made up god forms for different races.

[ekrolo2]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God."

The chapter goes against what Toriyama said. The anime seems to have it right in this regard anyway.

Thank you for getting the exact quote.

I don't mind the manga being different from the anime, and I do like some stuff Toytoro did. However, what he did here goes against Toriyama's own words and we don't need to see an outline to know that this is what Toriyama said. Maybe Toriyama forgot when he approved this chapter, but this goes against his own writing statement on why Goku doesn't use Super Saiyan God.

TBF, this is pretty much an interview exclusive thing. Nothing of the sort is said anytime in the manga, anime or even inside the film itself. This isn't even like the 6/10/15 thing where Beerus, in the film blatantly admits to using 70% of his power against God Goku to support Toriyama's statement. Honestly, like the invention of SSB, I'd chalk this up to him just forgetting stuff again.

[Kishido]

No the explanation of Toriyama reagarding this and SSB makes absolutely sense, evne if he never would ahve used this words. Why shoud Il hype a new blue haired Super Saiyan with god ki if they can still use this red version?

The manga makes no sense

[Xeztin]

Is SSG Goku skinny in the BoG arc of the manga? if he has his skinny frame like in the anime, something is a miss, because in this chapter of the manga, SSG Goku has his normal frame that he has in Base and SSJB.

[Chelentano]

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God."

The chapter goes against what Toriyama said. The anime seems to have it right in this regard anyway.

Thank you for getting the exact quote.

I don't mind the manga being different from the anime, and I do like some stuff Toytoro did. However, what he did here goes against Toriyama's own words and we don't need to see an outline to know that this is what Toriyama said. Maybe Toriyama forgot when he approved this chapter, but this goes against his own writing statement on why Goku doesn't use Super Saiyan God.

Well, it doesn't matter what he said if it wasn't said in the film, anyways. The explanations given outside of a product doesn't have any sense. He could have changed his mind after saying that.