"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

You know I was expecting something like this, no matter how retarded it looks:


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[Lionel]

The fight itself with the U6 Namekians was entertaining, high paced and evocative with some of the imagery, including Piccolo's metaphysical link and understanding of Saonel and Pirina, but I still don't like how Gohan was at the forefront of the hand-to-hand battle. I personally maintain my belief that this was intended to be Piccolo's zenith in the tournament. Much of it was fraught with weakness and ancillary placement. No matter how close Gohan may be to Piccolo, he shouldn't be boasting an equal place against the only physical encounter Piccolo has had with members of his species (not counting Kami back in the 23rd tournament).

Forgive me if this sounds thankless but I feel to a certain extent the moment lost some of its allure with Gohan being the apparent focus of the Namekians. Many of us know what the odds are of Piccolo having the favour returned to him by getting a significant role in the defeat of Gohan's most important fight. Plus, this idea they're trying to place in our minds about Gohan and Piccolo posing some kind of steadfast team, implying a mutual dependency where they're not liable to be made to grow on their own (mostly in Piccolo's case, we know Gohan is being primed for a separate campaign) doesn't sit well with me either.

[HeroR]

I'm guessing the U7 character eliminated next week will be 18? She's done enough and looks shocked in the preview.

It better not be Piccolo though, I feel like he still hasn't had his big moment yet.

I think 17 talking at the end of the preview is after 18 has been knocked out.

That was quite underwhelming. I expected the U6 namekians to be powerful on their own without the need of fusing, but I guess now that Saonel and Pilina would be nothing had they not. Way of hammering that namekians can't power up as much via training despite even meditation gave Piccolo some power boosts before.

I thought it was touching how many Namekians wanted to help saved U6, so they merged with two of their own (no it wasn't the entire race, just many).

The fusions hadn't worked fully yet so they will get more powerful and that stamina boost is a huge benefit.

They full awakened their fusion at the end.

If the two Nameks didn't fuse they'd probably had been as weak as those various fighter Nameks we saw Freeza kill back in the Namek arc, basically nothing.

So by Fusing it seems they gained considerable power. I'd put them both around SSJ2 level.

They were able to fight and even overwhelmed Ultimate Gohan. How were they only around Super Saiyan 2 anything?

[precita]

Being able to fight doesn't mean they were doing well. We saw Gohan pretty much dominating them the whole way through and he didn't take any damage.

[namekiansaiyan]

The fight itself with the U6 Namekians was entertaining, high paced and evocative with some of the imagery, including Piccolo's metaphysical link and understanding of Saonel and Pirina, but I still don't like how Gohan was at the forefront of the hand-to-hand battle. I personally maintain my belief that this was intended to be Piccolo's zenith in the tournament. Much of it was fraught with weakness and ancillary placement. No matter how close Gohan may be to Piccolo, he shouldn't be boasting an equal place against the only physical encounter Piccolo has had with members of his species (not counting Kami back in the 23rd tournament).

Forgive me if this sounds thankless but I feel to a certain extent the moment lost some of its allure with Gohan being the apparent focus of the Namekians. Many of us know what the odds are of Piccolo having the favour returned to him by getting a significant role in the defeat of Gohan's most important fight. Plus, this idea they're trying to place in our minds about Gohan and Piccolo posing some kind of steadfast team, implying a mutual dependency where they're not liable to be made to grow on their own (mostly in Piccolo's case, we know Gohan is being primed for a separate campaign) doesn't sit well with me either.

I definitely feel there should of been more Piccolo fighting in hand to hand combat but the main reason is because of them putting Universe 2 in the episode. Gohan and Piccolo vs Saonel and Pirina should have been a full episode to itself.

In the future there is no way Toriyama does not have Piccolo become stronger than Saonel and Pirina. Saonel and Pirina were waiting for their bodies to stabilise so they probably have a lot more power themselves. All 3 Namekians will get stronger.

That Special Beam Cannon is ridiculously strong and we at least have that now.

I'm guessing the U7 character eliminated next week will be 18? She's done enough and looks shocked in the preview.

It better not be Piccolo though, I feel like he still hasn't had his big moment yet.

I think 17 talking at the end of the preview is after 18 has been knocked out.

I thought it was touching how many Namekians wanted to help saved U6, so they merged with two of their own (no it wasn't the entire race, just many).

The fusions hadn't worked fully yet so they will get more powerful and that stamina boost is a huge benefit.

They full awakened their fusion at the end.

If the two Nameks didn't fuse they'd probably had been as weak as those various fighter Nameks we saw Freeza kill back in the Namek arc, basically nothing.

So by Fusing it seems they gained considerable power. I'd put them both around SSJ2 level.

They were able to fight and even overwhelmed Ultimate Gohan. How were they only around Super Saiyan 2 anything?

They also said though they were forced to fight though so what I get from that is that is that their bodies had stabilised enough but they would have liked too waited longer. Vados also said they can't hide anymore becuase of their numbers.

Being able to fight doesn't mean they were doing well. We saw Gohan pretty much dominating them the whole way through and he didn't take any damage.

They were still pushing Gohan back and were exchanging hand to hand combat easily.

[JoeCapricorn]

I expected Beerus to be emotional at the loss of his brother.

He was. He just bottled it up.

But that probably makes him want Universe 7 to win even more, not only for self preservation, but to get a wish to at least bring back Universe 6.

[HeroR]

The fight itself with the U6 Namekians was entertaining, high paced and evocative with some of the imagery, including Piccolo's metaphysical link and understanding of Saonel and Pirina, but I still don't like how Gohan was at the forefront of the hand-to-hand battle. I personally maintain my belief that this was intended to be Piccolo's zenith in the tournament. Much of it was fraught with weakness and ancillary placement. No matter how close Gohan may be to Piccolo, he shouldn't be boasting an equal place against the only physical encounter Piccolo has had with members of his species (not counting Kami back in the 23rd tournament).

Forgive me if this sounds thankless but I feel to a certain extent the moment lost some of its allure with Gohan being the apparent focus of the Namekians. Many of us know what the odds are of Piccolo having the favour returned to him by getting a significant role in the defeat of Gohan's most important fight. Plus, this idea they're trying to place in our minds about Gohan and Piccolo posing some kind of steadfast team, implying a mutual dependency where they're not liable to be made to grow on their own (mostly in Piccolo's case, we know Gohan is being primed for a separate campaign) doesn't sit well with me either.

I definitely feel there should of been more Piccolo fighting in hand to hand combat but the main reason is because of them putting Universe 2 in the episode. Gohan and Piccolo vs Saonel and Pirina should have been a full episode to itself.

In the future there is no way Toriyama does not have Piccolo become stronger than Saonel and Pirina. Saonel and Pirina were waiting for their bodies to stabilise so they probably have a lot more power themselves. All 3 Namekians will get stronger.

That Special Beam Cannon is ridiculously strong and we at least have that now.

I think 17 talking at the end of the preview is after 18 has been knocked out.



The fusions hadn't worked fully yet so they will get more powerful and that stamina boost is a huge benefit.

They full awakened their fusion at the end.

If the two Nameks didn't fuse they'd probably had been as weak as those various fighter Nameks we saw Freeza kill back in the Namek arc, basically nothing.

So by Fusing it seems they gained considerable power. I'd put them both around SSJ2 level.

They were able to fight and even overwhelmed Ultimate Gohan. How were they only around Super Saiyan 2 anything?

They also said though they were forced to fight though so what I get from that is that is that their bodies had stabilised enough but they would have liked too waited longer. Vados also said they can't hide anymore becuase of their numbers.

Being able to fight doesn't mean they were doing well. We saw Gohan pretty much dominating them the whole way through and he didn't take any damage.

They were still pushing Gohan back and were exchanging hand to hand combat easily.

Actually, they said it was just on time and powered up.

[namekiansaiyan]

Actually, they said it was just on time and powered up.

Did they? I just went back and didn't see that. Anyway they literally just fused so they have room to grow.

I now need Piccolo to get stamina like Saonel and Pirina.

[HeroR]

Actually, they said it was just on time and powered up.

Did they? I just went back and didn't see that. Anyway they literally just fused so they have room to grow.

I now need Piccolo to get stamina like Saonel and Pirina.

Go to 5:10. He said, 'just in time it seems'.

[FortuneSSJ]

See two Universes getting erased in the same episode is something I wanted since the beginning, because it makes everything more impactful.
Now next stop is to have two U7 fighters eliminated in the same episode.

I'm still surprised how unpredictable Super is though. Hit losing to Jiren to hype him was predictable, but U6 getting erased before U3 and U4 wasn't.
I was expecting the classic route where Universe 11 would eliminate the last Universe 6 fighter, leaving them vs Universe 7 for the climax, but that didn't happen.

Universe 7 is the main responsible for U6 losses and I also love how it's the second time Gohan, arguably the most innocent character in U7 team, is responsible for eliminate the last fighter of one Universe. I'm curious if this will lead up to anything.

[perucho1990]

Next year they should have U6 Adventures Arc once U6 gets revived.

Saonel and Pirina showed potential, they never got to master their new power.

Also gotta bring back the Namekian Book of Legends.

[precita]

Universe 3 has the right move, they're all underpowered but they have the most fighters left besides Universe 7. They can all hide in the background somewhere while everyone else takes each other out.

[namekiansaiyan]

Next year they should have U6 Adventures Arc once U6 gets revived.

Saonel and Pirina showed potential, they never got to master their new power.

Also gotta bring back the Namekian Book of Legends.

I really liked the bit with Saonel, Pirina and Caulifla as it made Saonel and Pirina feel apart of the group.

One day Toriyama will wake up and realise that Namekians means Piccolo and there logically must be some legend about the Namekians somewhere in that book.

I hooe the book is introduced properly.

[The_Destroyer]

Being able to fight doesn't mean they were doing well. We saw Gohan pretty much dominating them the whole way through and he didn't take any damage.

Nah, I think if Piccolo wasn't there they probably would have ringed him out. Soanel was able to survive Gohan's Kamehameha and Pilina was able to counter it. Keep in mind Gohan did say he was going all out.



Interesting to note that both of the Namekians never got to master their power. Who knows how strong they could have gotten.

[namekiansaiyan]

Being able to fight doesn't mean they were doing well. We saw Gohan pretty much dominating them the whole way through and he didn't take any damage.

Nah, I think if Piccolo wasn't there they probably would have ringed him out. Soanel was able to survive Gohan's Kamehameha and Pilina was able to counter it. Keep in mind Gohan did say he was going all out.



Interesting to note that both of the Namekians never got to master their power. Who knows how strong they could have gotten.

It just shows how strong Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon was.

People wanted Piccolo to fuse with Saonel and Pirina and if he did he would be way too strong along with crazy stamina. It is good they stayed seperated.

[perucho1990]

I really liked the bit with Saonel, Pirina and Caulifla as it made Saonel and Pirina feel apart of the group.

Onr day Toriyama will wake and realise that Namekians means Piccolo and there logically must be some legend avout the Namekians somewhere in that book.

Toriyama remembered the Namekian Book of Legends, which is a surprise to me.

Seeing the U6 group interact like that kinda makes me want to see them get their own show.

[namekiansaiyan]

I really liked the bit with Saonel, Pirina and Caulifla as it made Saonel and Pirina feel apart of the group.

Onr day Toriyama will wake and realise that Namekians means Piccolo and there logically must be some legend avout the Namekians somewhere in that book.

Toriyama remembered the Namekian Book of Legends, which is a surprise to me.

Seeing the U6 group interact like that kinda makes me want to see them get their own show.

Universe 6 and Universe 11 could have their own spinoffs. Toei could even have Universe 2 be the their next Magical Girl anime.

[perucho1990]

Yeah, even the Maidens can become stronger if they master the love power.

But next year, the next big arc again IMO should be U6 Adventures.

Its clear that the main players in U6 are the Saiyan Kids and the Namekians(despite having no eliminations but they had the excuse of not mastering their fusion power).

[namekiansaiyan]

Yeah, even the Maidens can become stronger if they master the love power.

But next year, the next big arc again IMO should be U6 Adventures.

Its clear that the main players in U6 are the Saiyan Kids and the Namekians(despite having no eliminations but they had the excuse of not mastering their fusion power).

Hit has to be there and I hope Frost in the future plays a role where he is always out for his own gain but helps when needed sort but always fails to get what he wants.

[The_Destroyer]

On a side note hopefully Katopesla survives again next episode. I think he'll probably get bailed out by Damon attacking Vegeta. There's no time for him to use his other 3 modes and see him with his shades on.