The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 03, 2013 6:56 pm

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Polyphase Avatron wrote:Aka (abo+cado fused) vs. Cooler
Wasn't Aka a match for base Gotenks? If so, he stomps Cooler.
I don't think so. Aka just got smacked around. Aka got up afterwards though.
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Post by Drayenko » Fri May 03, 2013 6:56 pm

Aka beat Gotenks.
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Post by Saiga » Fri May 03, 2013 7:38 pm

I think Pure Boo would defeat Gotenks handily whether it's pre or post RoSaT training. And Cooler would defeat Aka.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 03, 2013 7:44 pm

Drayenko wrote:Aka beat Gotenks.
Aka didn't beat Gotenks at all :/.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:53 pm

I think Pure Boo would defeat Gotenks handily whether it's pre or post RoSaT training. And Cooler would defeat Aka.
Plausible Cooler or Toei haxxed Cooler (2.4-6 billion+)? The former is a logical place for his power level based on movie and supplemental statements while the latter is taking his base Goku > 100% Freeza statement at face value.
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Post by Saiga » Fri May 03, 2013 7:57 pm

Either. :P
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 03, 2013 8:06 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Aka (abo+cado fused) vs. Cooler
AKa I think.
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Post by Drayenko » Fri May 03, 2013 8:12 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Drayenko wrote:Aka beat Gotenks.
Aka didn't beat Gotenks at all :/.
Well, let's say, indirectly. Gotenks "beat" him and then Aka came back. Which Cooler would never be able to pull off. And then we know how things went...
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 03, 2013 8:17 pm

Drayenko wrote:
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Drayenko wrote:Aka beat Gotenks.
Aka didn't beat Gotenks at all :/.
Well, let's say, indirectly. Gotenks "beat" him and then Aka came back. Which Cooler would never be able to pull off. And then we know how things went...
Well I'm not arguing that Cooler is stronger than Aka. I'm just saying Aka didn't beat Gotenks.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri May 03, 2013 8:57 pm

How about end of series Tenshinhan vs Krillin at equal power levels. Would Krillin still win.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:01 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:How about end of series Tenshinhan vs Krillin at equal power levels. Would Krillin still win.
I imagine Krillin might be a bit rusty due to his lack of training, so unless he pulls out a Taioken-Kienzan combo, Tien's got this.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:28 pm

I think they're nearly equal anyway, with Krillin having a slight lead. Anyway, Tien would win. He's honing his skills constantly and has been shown to be one of the most skilled fighters in the series when it comes to techniques.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat May 04, 2013 12:57 am

Krillin was stated to be the strongest human at the end of the manga... but I think that was wrong and Tien is stronger. Unless Tien is not human due to his third eye.
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Post by Draken » Sat May 04, 2013 1:07 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Krillin was stated to be the strongest human at the end of the manga... but I think that was wrong and Tenshinhan is stronger. Unless Tenshinhan is not human due to his third eye.
So you think stuff stated by the manga is wrong? The hell is correct then O_O. Tien is a human, descendant of descendants of aliens.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat May 04, 2013 2:53 am

Well it was a character who stated it (Yamcha I think). Characters can be wrong about stuff.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat May 04, 2013 2:59 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Krillin was stated to be the strongest human at the end of the manga... but I think that was wrong and Tenshinhan is stronger. Unless Tenshinhan is not human due to his third eye.
Doesn't matter, the person who asked the question were saying if they were at equal power levels.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 04, 2013 9:54 am

dbzfan7 wrote:How about end of series Tenshinhan vs Krillin at equal power levels. Would Krillin still win.
I'd argue Tenshinhan is more skilled so he pulls a victory.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Sat May 04, 2013 9:56 am

One could say Kuririn is the more sensible one. When severely outmatched Kuririn knows his place. With Tenshinhan , you have to beat it out of him.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat May 04, 2013 7:34 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Well it was a character who stated it (Yamcha I think). Characters can be wrong about stuff.
Toryama also stated it in a recent interview.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat May 04, 2013 8:20 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Well it was a character who stated it (Yamcha I think). Characters can be wrong about stuff.
Toryama also stated it in a recent interview.
Really? Did he say directly that Krillin > Tien?
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