"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Xeogran]

Another universe is getting trashed by U7

Not until I see an actual source

Heck off with sourceless spoilers, that should be a rule.

It's even funnier the Japanese title and Korean Title for 120 translates to two different things.

[BlueVegerot]

Vegeta won't get UI in this tournament. My guess is that he shows off a vastly improved blue form in his fight vs jiren. Obviously not enough to beat him but enough to get a couple shots in and put up a half decent fight

[ShinTenshin]

Again with this Vegeta UI nonsense? Vegeta will not get any UI in this tournament, guys

Some fans are so desperate for Vegeta to be at Gokus level it's sad..

Some fans are so desperate for Gohan to be at Gokus level it's sad..
Manga version show us how Gohan seems useless for Goku.
And we know by the oracle fish himself that it's now only Goku and Vegeta that will represent a danger for Beerus..
So Gohan future isn't to be strong.
It's clear than in the script Gohan isn't important compared to Vegeta.
Add the fact that Vegeta want to save U6 like no one.

I'm pretty sure than the last 3 of U7 will be Goku, Vegeta and Freeza.
Sorry for dreamers but Gohan will fall before them.
Soon we'll laugh about all the wrong predictions​ about Gohan (Surpass Jiren, new form, Top is basically the new Cell arc etc.....).

[Ki Breaker]

Again with this Vegeta UI nonsense? Vegeta will not get any UI in this tournament, guys

Some fans are so desperate for Vegeta to be at Gokus level it's sad..

Some fans are so desperate for Gohan to be at Gokus level it's sad..
Manga version show us how Gohan seems useless for Goku.
And we know by the oracle fish himself that it's now only Goku and Vegeta that will represent a danger for Beerus..
So Gohan future isn't to be strong.
It's clear than in the script Gohan isn't important compared to Vegeta.
Add the fact that Vegeta want to save U6 like no one.

I'm pretty sure than the last 3 of U7 will be Goku, Vegeta and Freeza.
Sorry for dreamers but Gohan will fall before them.
Soon we'll laugh about all the wrong predictions​ about Gohan (Surpass Jiren, new form, Top is basically the new Cell arc etc.....).

Haha, how does this connect to Vegeta and UI? Just because I am a Gohan fan?

It's pretty obvious Gohan is nowhere near Goku, and if he is he shouldn't be..

[Noah]

Vegeta will fight Jiren and obviously job.

You wish.

[Totamo]

I think the rating were down because of U2 transforming into Magical Girls, that probably made the japanese fans to change the channel.

Anyway spoilers are out

120: Perfect Survival Strategy! The threat of U3's assassin!!

121: Total warfare! The Ultimate 4-Way Fusion VS U7's All-Out Attack!!

122: Have pride in yourself! Vegeta challenges the strongest!!

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GG Universe 4, they are done this saturday, U3 is done 2 weeks later.

Vegeta will fight Jiren and obviously job..

Vegeta literally can't job to Jiren because Goku and Hit have both already been defeated showing how strong he is.

[perucho1990]

Vegeta always loses to the main antagonist, like when was the last time Vegeta didnt fight(and lose) the arcs main antagonist?

[MisteryOne]

Vegeta always loses to the main antagonist, like when was the last time Vegeta didnt fight(and lose) the arcs main antagonist?

You still don't get it, do you? Lose =/= job. Seriously...

[HeroR]

Vegeta always loses to the main antagonist, like when was the last time Vegeta didnt fight(and lose) the arcs main antagonist?

Jobbing doesn't mean losing.

Jobbing means you either did a poorer job than usual to put over someone or you really lose badly to put over someone to showcase their strength. For example, Vegeta jobbed to Hit and Black to show how powerful they were since before Vegeta fought them, we didn't know how strong Hit was other than he was the strongest in U6. Black, we had no clue how much stronger he got after he fought Goku. So in these cases, Vegeta had to lose to put over these people.

However, with Jiren we know how strong he is since Goku jobbed to him when he fought him in 109-110. So we know exactly how strong Jiren is and we can say without Vegeta even touching the guy that Vegeta stand absolutely no chance unless he pulls UI. Hit didn't even job to Jiren in 111 for the exact same reason. Using an older example, Vegeta didn't job to Beerus and neither did any of the Z-Fighters except maybe Gohan and Gotenks because Super Saiyan 3 Goku was already jobbed hard by Beerus before he even got to Earth. So we knew that no one on Earth was going to do shit the Beerus.

So Vegeta losing to the main antagonist isn't always jobbing.

[Michsi]

Vegeta always loses to the main antagonist, like when was the last time Vegeta didnt fight(and lose) the arcs main antagonist?

Jobbing doesn't mean losing.

Jobbing means you either did a poorer job than usual to put over someone or you really lose badly to put over someone to showcase their strength. For example, Vegeta jobbed to Hit and Black to show how powerful they were since before Vegeta fought them, we didn't know how strong Hit was other than he was the strongest in U6. Black, we had no clue how much stronger he got after he fought Goku. So in these cases, Vegeta had to lose to put over these people.

However, with Jiren we know how strong he is since Goku jobbed to him when he fought him in 109-110. So we know exactly how strong Jiren is and we can say without Vegeta even touching the guy that Vegeta stand absolutely no chance unless he pulls UI. Hit didn't even job to Jiren in 111 for the exact same reason. Using an older example, Vegeta didn't job to Beerus and neither did any of the Z-Fighters except maybe Gohan and Gotenks because Super Saiyan 3 Goku was already jobbed hard by Beerus before he even got to Earth. So we knew that no one on Earth was going to do shit the Beerus.

So Vegeta losing to the main antagonist isn't always jobbing.

So jobbing is now basically just another term for the 'Worf effect". I used to think it just means when someone boasts power against an opponent and can't back it up, not being relegated to a measuring stick.

[BlueVegerot]

Its not "jobbing" when you have no chance vs the guy. I swear you guys would say Maji Kayo jobbed to Jiren.

Anyways Goku has been jobbing since DBS started. He's gonna lose to Jiren even after he masters UI

[HeroR]

Vegeta always loses to the main antagonist, like when was the last time Vegeta didnt fight(and lose) the arcs main antagonist?

Jobbing doesn't mean losing.

Jobbing means you either did a poorer job than usual to put over someone or you really lose badly to put over someone to showcase their strength. For example, Vegeta jobbed to Hit and Black to show how powerful they were since before Vegeta fought them, we didn't know how strong Hit was other than he was the strongest in U6. Black, we had no clue how much stronger he got after he fought Goku. So in these cases, Vegeta had to lose to put over these people.

However, with Jiren we know how strong he is since Goku jobbed to him when he fought him in 109-110. So we know exactly how strong Jiren is and we can say without Vegeta even touching the guy that Vegeta stand absolutely no chance unless he pulls UI. Hit didn't even job to Jiren in 111 for the exact same reason. Using an older example, Vegeta didn't job to Beerus and neither did any of the Z-Fighters except maybe Gohan and Gotenks because Super Saiyan 3 Goku was already jobbed hard by Beerus before he even got to Earth. So we knew that no one on Earth was going to do shit the Beerus.

So Vegeta losing to the main antagonist isn't always jobbing.

So jobbing is now basically just another term for the 'Worf effect". I used to think it just means when someone boasts power against an opponent and can't back it up, not being relegated to a measuring stick.

The term 'jobbing' is older than the 'Worf effect'. It came from professional wrestling.

[Michsi]

Jobbing doesn't mean losing.

Jobbing means you either did a poorer job than usual to put over someone or you really lose badly to put over someone to showcase their strength. For example, Vegeta jobbed to Hit and Black to show how powerful they were since before Vegeta fought them, we didn't know how strong Hit was other than he was the strongest in U6. Black, we had no clue how much stronger he got after he fought Goku. So in these cases, Vegeta had to lose to put over these people.

However, with Jiren we know how strong he is since Goku jobbed to him when he fought him in 109-110. So we know exactly how strong Jiren is and we can say without Vegeta even touching the guy that Vegeta stand absolutely no chance unless he pulls UI. Hit didn't even job to Jiren in 111 for the exact same reason. Using an older example, Vegeta didn't job to Beerus and neither did any of the Z-Fighters except maybe Gohan and Gotenks because Super Saiyan 3 Goku was already jobbed hard by Beerus before he even got to Earth. So we knew that no one on Earth was going to do shit the Beerus.

So Vegeta losing to the main antagonist isn't always jobbing.

So jobbing is now basically just another term for the 'Worf effect". I used to think it just means when someone boasts power against an opponent and can't back it up, not being relegated to a measuring stick.

The term 'jobbing' is older than the 'Worf effect'. It came from professional wrestling.

I see. Makes sense. I only ever come across this term when people discuss shounen, particularly in this fandom, so I though it was newer.

[BlueBasilisk]

Goku's already gotten his shit pushed in by Jiren twice and he's the strongest Universe 7 has to offer. Anyone else who loses to him is protected as Jiren is established as being well beyond anyone but UI Goku.

Again with this Vegeta UI nonsense? Vegeta will not get any UI in this tournament, guys

There's really no reason he couldn't except "plot." Goku only got it through a freak chance after nearly blowing himself up. They both got Blue at the same time and they've both been through similar training with Whis.

[BlueVegerot]

Krillin gets kicked away by cell

Fandom " krillin jobbed to cell"

[TheMikado]

Krillin gets kicked away by cell

Fandom " krillin jobbed to cell"

I’m pretty sure that still counts as jobbing though

[BlueVegerot]

Krillin gets kicked away by cell

Fandom " krillin jobbed to cell"

I’m pretty sure that still counts as jobbing though

to me jobbing should be used to describe bad losses to fighters on your level or around. I don't consider losing to someone hundreds of times stronger "jobbing" but thats just how i choose to use the word

[Ki Breaker]

Krillin gets kicked away by cell

Fandom " krillin jobbed to cell"

I’m pretty sure that still counts as jobbing though

to me jobbing should be used to describe bad losses to fighters on your level or around. I don't consider losing to someone hundreds of times stronger "jobbing" but thats just how i choose to use the word

It's.. it's not possible to choose the meaning of a word too nowadays right?

Joking aside, no, strength of either party dosen't matter as long as the conditions are met..

[CriticalThinker]

I'm guessing those spoilers are probably false I mean from what we've seen of U3 I can't seen any of them being a assassin. Also don't scans come out tomorrow usually useless they came out early for once.

[HeroR]

I'm guessing those spoilers are probably false I mean from what we've seen of U3 I can't seen any of them being a assassin. Also don't scans come out tomorrow usually useless they came out early for once.

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.