"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kenneth La Torre]

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

[CriticalThinker]

I'm guessing those spoilers are probably false I mean from what we've seen of U3 I can't seen any of them being a assassin. Also don't scans come out tomorrow usually useless they came out early for once.

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before. And I agree that if the usual suspects got the scans they would have already been posted.

[Xeogran]

I'm guessing those spoilers are probably false I mean from what we've seen of U3 I can't seen any of them being a assassin. Also don't scans come out tomorrow usually useless they came out early for once.

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before.

Because they went the safe boring route. "Oh, U4 loses, then U3 gets Megazord episodes, loses too, and then Vegeta vs Jiren."

You really think it would be that simple and fast? I don't.

[CriticalThinker]

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before.

Because they went the safe boring route. "Oh, U4 loses, then U3 gets Megazord episodes, loses too, and then Vegeta vs Jiren."

You really think it would be that simple and fast? I don't.

Hopefully the actual spoilers don't ring true to the fake ones we've gotten. I feel like the bugs have been built up more subtly and I don't imagine they'll last only one episode. Sadly though I think the blue man himself might not survive 119 but maybe there's more to him than just his illusions.

[Kanassa]

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

I would, geekdom only does a video on herms translations of the spoilers. So if geekdom uploads, herms translated.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm guessing those spoilers are probably false I mean from what we've seen of U3 I can't seen any of them being a assassin. Also don't scans come out tomorrow usually useless they came out early for once.

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before. And I agree that if the usual suspects got the scans they would have already been posted.

I still think the ones about Freeza defecting were better. Mainly because it actually got a good bit of the preceding info correct.

[BlueBasilisk]

Is there a double issue of WSJ coming up in the next couple weeks? I feel like I read that recently but I could easily be mixing it up with something else.

[CriticalThinker]

The longer time past, the more likely of it being fake since normal channels haven't gotten the scans yet. The same thing happened last month when the official spoiler took over a day after someone posted fake spoilers.

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before. And I agree that if the usual suspects got the scans they would have already been posted.

I still think the ones about Freeza defecting were better. Mainly because it actually got a good bit of the preceding info correct.

Well most of these fake spoilers are just guesses and speculations from the people that make them so some are bound to be partially true.

[HeroR]

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

I have to agree. He lost some points after posting those fake Freeza defects to U4 spoilers and then tried to justify it with, 'this person much have some information since he got a lot of things right' like almost getting the title for 97 right and Freeza trying to defect, except it was to U9.

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

I would, geekdom only does a video on herms translations of the spoilers. So if geekdom uploads, herms translated.

He has done videos without translations from Herms.

[BlueBasilisk]

And the 'Frieza defects to Universe 4' spoilers were undermined by Frieza's new, then unreleased character art being found hidden in the html on the Super website under the Universe 7 character page but nowhere under Universe 4's.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Why are people believing those spoilers, when not even herms has recieved the scans? Heck if it were true, Geekdom would have made a video about 30 mins after the scans came out.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

I have to agree. He lost some points after posting those fake Freeza defects to U4 spoilers and then tried to justify it with, 'this person much have some information since he got a lot of things right' like almost getting the title for 97 right and Freeza trying to defect, except it was to U9.

To be fair, I wouldn't hold Geekdom as a reason to distrust or trust anything posted.

I would, geekdom only does a video on herms translations of the spoilers. So if geekdom uploads, herms translated.

He has done videos without translations from Herms.

He has, but almost all the time is from herms. He messed up one time, no big deal. He has learned from that. And its not like i get spoilers info from him, i always wait for herms.

[dbzfan7]

To job is to lose. Hence the term, do the job. Jobber is someone who constantly loses to make someone look better. Jobbing is the act of doing the job. Typically to job is not a bad thing, but looking like a jobber is a bad thing. To look like a Jobber, is to look like a loser. To merely job is just fine as someone has to win. Just because someone jobs, doesn't automatically mean they look bad. But if some jobs so poorly they look like a jobber, then they look awful. Especially when the person losing can't really elevate the winner or make them look that much better when compared to someone else.

To compare two Super examples I'll compare Gohan jobbing to Freeza and Vegeta Jobbing to Hit. Gohan looks bad and doesn't even serve to elevate Freeza much as Freeza is so much more powerful, he makes a bad measuring stick for Goku and Vegeta. So we don't feel much dread cause Goku and Vegeta could just as casually crush Gohan, so what? He's merely a small display for his power. Gohan jobbing to Boo did a much better job getting the point across as he was closer to Goku and Vegeta, and was crushed like nothing by Boo. Like having Brock Lesnar beat up Heath Slater. Sure Brock looks dominate, but its Heath Slater...so really it doesn't do him that much good. Several others could easily do what he did too. Now when Brock dominated Cena, that was shocking as he was the poster boy, and Brock crushed him. Vegeta on the other hand is as powerful as Goku as far as we knew, so him losing to Hit so badly creates that sense of dread for Goku. It could be argued he looked like a complete chump, but the thing is he was saved by the fact he was not aware of Hit's powers, and was said he'd do much better if he knew. So he had a safety net to help catch him.

[Kanassa]

To compare two Super examples I'll compare Gohan jobbing to Freeza and Vegeta Jobbing to Hit. Gohan looks bad and doesn't even serve to elevate Freeza much as Freeza is so much more powerful, he makes a bad measuring stick for Goku and Vegeta.

But the thing is that Frieza kicking Gohan's ass isn't there to show the audience that he's powerful, it's there to show off Frieza being a psychopath and attempt to add a layer of desperation.

It's like when Yamcha gets his ass kicked by a villain, the intended reaction isn't "Oh no, they beat HIM!" it's "Wow, that evil bastard! I bet he kicks puppies too!"

[kinisking]

To compare two Super examples I'll compare Gohan jobbing to Freeza and Vegeta Jobbing to Hit. Gohan looks bad and doesn't even serve to elevate Freeza much as Freeza is so much more powerful, he makes a bad measuring stick for Goku and Vegeta.

But the thing is that Frieza kicking Gohan's ass isn't there to show the audience that he's powerful, it's there to show off Frieza being a psychopath and attempt to add a layer of desperation.

It's like when Yamcha gets his ass kicked by a villain, the intended reaction isn't "Oh no, they beat HIM!" it's "Wow, that evil bastard! I bet he kicks puppies too!"

I think it was to do both. They establish Gohan to be the strongest of the B-tiers, and then he gets destroyed by Freeza's base form. It shows that Freeza is way stronger than before considering his final form previously wouldn't have been able to do that.

[HeroR]

To compare two Super examples I'll compare Gohan jobbing to Freeza and Vegeta Jobbing to Hit. Gohan looks bad and doesn't even serve to elevate Freeza much as Freeza is so much more powerful, he makes a bad measuring stick for Goku and Vegeta.

But the thing is that Frieza kicking Gohan's ass isn't there to show the audience that he's powerful, it's there to show off Frieza being a psychopath and attempt to add a layer of desperation.

It's like when Yamcha gets his ass kicked by a villain, the intended reaction isn't "Oh no, they beat HIM!" it's "Wow, that evil bastard! I bet he kicks puppies too!"

I think the best example of this is Android 20 putting his hand through Yamcha.

[Ki Breaker]

Piccolo vs Android 17 first encounter also comes to mind

[GodKaio-Ken]

I feel like this fanbase has a tendency to fall for fake spoilers, but I will say these spoilers were the most believable of the fake spoilers we've gotten before. And I agree that if the usual suspects got the scans they would have already been posted.

I still think the ones about Freeza defecting were better. Mainly because it actually got a good bit of the preceding info correct.

Well most of these fake spoilers are just guesses and speculations from the people that make them so some are bound to be partially true.

For sure. It was just eerily right that time up to a point. Stars lined up I guess on that one.

[The_Destroyer]

I hope the bugs aren't one episode fodder like Hermilla and Prum. That'd be stupid if they were.

[perucho1990]

Piccolo and 18 ELIMINATED





Vegeta about to lose to Jiren.