"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[precita]

The Goku and Vegeta show, everyone.

[namekiansaiyan]

I am done. They couldn't even have Piccolo go in a good way. I may be back for the next arc but that is very unlikely now. His action last week has been ruined now.

If you are man enough, leave NOW. Stick to your word and Never come back.

The Fandom wont miss you though

Tell me something I don't know.

If I do stay the Piccolo talk will be toned way down anyway and that goes for other Piccolo fans as well.

[Ki Breaker]

Tell me something I don't know.
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Piccolo was never relevant since the buu saga..

but seriously, what just happened is just sad, shouldn't have gone out like that

[precita]

Toriyama's outline for this arc probably had nothing but Goku Vs Jiren. Every fight is made up by Toei writers, which is why it's handled the way it is

[Ki Breaker]

Toriyama's outline for this arc probably had nothing but Goku Vs Jiren. Every fight is made up by Toei writers, which is why it's handled the way it is

The hell..
How did you come to that conclusion, it could just be the super being super and messing everything up the first chance they get..

[HeroR]

You sound like someone I know on Gaf Discord.

Its pretty fun that everywhere else is like " Eh sucks for Piccolo, but oh well, he did better than I thought ." and are laughing at Vegeta possibly "jobbing"



Yet here, everyone is super depressed about the green namekian.

We wouldn't be so 'depressed' if he got the attention 18 and Roshi received. No one expected these 2 to have more attention than Piccolo and all Piccolo got was basically 2 Ki attacks in 23 episodes of the tournament. .

I'm very disappointed about the turn of events as well -- not just with Piccolo's untimely demise but also the oversaturation of some while neglecting so many of the characters around them. You have a treasure trove of potential development value and it's squandered for the most part to accommodate a select few faces. Sad to say but Goku in particular is one character whom, despite being the protagonist, I'm growing tired of seeing every episode.

Personally, I'm not about to give up the show but this arc has really been a collection of missed opportunities. Somehow the Future Trunks arc appears to have a better quality to itself, in retrospect.

The Future Trunks Saga had a smaller cast and a story that could be told without a lot of fighting. Which is how you could have Bulma and Future Mai, both non-fighters, be part of the main cast and still feel important. When you have a roster this big, characters will be left behind. Even One Piece, which uses character better than any Dragon Ball series, fall into this after the cast reached a certain size.

There was 70 potential opponents. How can Toriyama give so little to Piccolo and Tien and so much to Roshi and 18.

All I know is that Piccolo will be back while Roshi, 17, 18, Gohan and Frieza will be retired again even though it will be to have him messed around again like in every arc so far in Super.

I can understand that, but I also warned about expecting too much from Piccolo after what happened in Episode 34. Than and everything with Piccolo had him tied to Gohan's joint, which honestly annoyed me.

But maybe Piccolo will get a good ring out similar to Roshi. We shouldn't take the spoilers at face value since the last spoiler made it seemed the last of U2 went out like punks.

If Roshi can come back along with 18 then anything can happen. 18 is attached to 17 so she should be getting the same treatment.

This arc proved my point and that is you have to be a retuning or new character to get something.

I just will never understand why Piccolo gets the treatment he does.

I feel like all Piccolo did was that hellzone grenade and stand still charging a beam.

No, the skirmish with the namekians had in hand to hand combat until it came to charging the beam.

I think precita means a punch that lands and causes some damage.

Can I have your crystal ball and your predictions haven't exactly been great when it comes to Super.

[Michsi]

I feel like all Piccolo did was that hellzone grenade and stand still charging a beam.

No, the skirmish with the namekians had in hand to hand combat until it came to charging the beam.

I think precita means a punch that lands and causes some damage.

He didn't, and that is a shame, in a way.

Aren't we going to get additional summaries for 119 today from WSJ ?

[DSB]

I am done. They couldn't even have Piccolo go in a good way. I may be back for the next arc but that is very unlikely now. His action last week has been ruined now.

If you are man enough, leave NOW. Stick to your word and Never come back.

The Fandom wont miss you though

Tell me something I don't know.

If I do stay the Piccolo talk will be toned way down anyway and that goes for other Piccolo fans as well.

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

[Xeogran]

Screw Piccolo, I'm depressed because of Shantsa.

He stayed with us for so long, only to leave in a most likely rushed manner. Monna got an episode to herself and she was less interesting.

Very disappointed...

[HeroR]

The Goku and Vegeta show, everyone.

Vegeta hasn't had major spotlight in months. Even his supposed episode which was 112 was mostly about Cabba. Even 107 was him sharing with Roshi.

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

Vegeta haven't job since Black and he can't even job to Jiren since Goku did that already.

[precita]

I wonder what people mean, Vegeta has dominated this tournament besides Goku. What do you want?

[Bullza]

The Goku and Vegeta show, everyone.

Not really. Vegeta might have knocked off quite off a few people but he hasn't had a whole lot of impact in this Tournament.

Aside from the start where he helped Goku defeat Universe 9 and then the episode where he fought Frost and Magetta, he hasn't done that much.

Piccolo has knocked off three characters, it's more than Hit got. He's had a good amount of screentime too. The Universe 7 fighters can't all take out a bunch of people.

[MasterofSix]

The reaction to this is depressingly predictable. For the past month or so, the biggest complaint with the tournament was that Universe 7 was doing too well and winning every fight. Now, that infuriating streak is coming to an end and everybody's in an uproar. Guys, if you want the arc to start being tense again, at some point the fanservice band-aid is going to have to come off.

Yes, the wording of that TRANSLATED SCAN sounds bad for Piccolo, but those things have never been the most reliable indicator of what will actually happen. Remember Krillin getting disqualified? The magical girls fusing? Freeza getting mad at Goku for kill-stealing the U2 guys? Maybe Piccolo isn't going to go out in a blaze of glory like Roshi or to a lesser extent Tien. To be honest, I'm fine with that. Giving everyone a dignified, heroic send-off only furthers the issue of U7 being too powerful and devalues the impact of the ones that have already had that treatment. Piccolo really shined last episode and realistically there isn't anywhere left for him to go from here. He can afford to go out next episode, and however it happens, I'm sure it'll be a better than fucking slipping on a banana peel.

As for Vegeta? Eh, he's been poorly handled this entire arc. Two good eps (107 and 112) outweighed by a lot of bad. This fight against Jiren (which should look stunning at the very least) is his last chance to prove himself as something other than an unfortunate joke, but after that I'm happy for him to drop out and let Gohan and Freeza step up as second-protagonists. Vegeta has been second-landing man for most of Super, it would be okay for him to not make it to the end for once and Gohan and Freeza are both far more interesting at this point.

I'm honestly more upset about Katopesla going out. I wanted my cockroach boy to last until the end. At least it looks like it'll be to a Universe 4 character. We need more eliminations from other Universes, especially now 6 is gone.

I agree with everyone getting their panties in a twist over scans before an episode has aired, and we've been shown time and again that their not always true. It sucks that Piccolo might get ringed out over tripping, but maybe it's a combination of the Damon/Gamisoras/Shantsa overwhelming him. Who knows? One thing that does bother me though is Universe 4's fate.

Toriyama's outline for this arc probably had nothing but Goku Vs Jiren. Every fight is made up by Toei writers, which is why it's handled the way it is

What. Let's not make baseless assumptions. Come on.

[HeroR]

I wonder what people mean, Vegeta has dominated this tournament besides Goku. What do you want?

He has the second most knockouts, but he has very little overall presence and no major fights except his little back and forward with Toppo. 18, 17, and Roshi to an extent did more than him.

[IntoTheFire]

Ironically, I think this tournament may be Goku and 18 show. I never expected her to do so well.

[namekiansaiyan]

Tell me something I don't know.
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Piccolo was never relevant since the buu saga..

but seriously, what just happened is just sad, shouldn't have gone out like that

Always relevant to be messed about though.

Piccolo really shined last episode.

If that is what Piccolo fans consider shine then so be it, but frankly, he seemed to me as an old frail man..
Falling down with an opened mouth and regretting what he had said to Gohan in the past, needing help getting up and facing the enemy, he seemed weak and frail who can still use his ultimate attack of younger days but needs protection nowadays until he can prepare it..
That is not how I wanted to see Piccolo and I don't even care that much about him..

Piccolo is not just finished as a fighter but as a character right now. Toriyama either needs to send him to permanently to the mountains so we never see him again or sends him to Universe 6 Namek to train with Saonel and Pirina.

Its pretty fun that everywhere else is like " Eh sucks for Piccolo, but oh well, he did better than I thought ." and are laughing at Vegeta possibly "jobbing"



Yet here, everyone is super depressed about the green namekian.

We wouldn't be so 'depressed' if he got the attention 18 and Roshi received. No one expected these 2 to have more attention than Piccolo and all Piccolo got was basically 2 Ki attacks in 23 episodes of the tournament. .

Can I have your crystal ball and your predictions haven't exactly been great when it comes to Super.

I am just thinking logically. If you had to predict one person to do something in the next arc then Piccolo would be the favourite. Even if it is not that big of a role and he gets messed about again.

[HeroR]

Ironically, I think this tournament may be Goku and 18 show. I never expected her to do so well.

Right now, it's the: Goku, 18, 17 show with Gohan and Piccolo being major secondary characters.

I am just thinking logically. If you had to predict one person to do something in the next arc then Piccolo would be the favourite. Even if it is not that big of a role and he gets messed about again.

'Logic' also said that Roshi's role in Resurrection 'F' was just fan service and he would have no other major role and 18 was out in 117 because she hurt her ankle in 115. And to point out, Piccolo had no major role in the Future Trunks Saga. Toei had to give him one since he didn't do anything in Toyo's manga.

[Whatever]

Screw Piccolo, I'm depressed because of Shantsa.

He stayed with us for so long, only to leave in a most likely rushed manner. Monna got an episode to herself and she was less interesting.

Very disappointed...

>less interesting
>Shantsa had 0 lines so far so we know nothing about him which means by default he is a worse character than Monna
ok

He is a fodder we know nothing about yet you are depressed about him.

[precita]

I wonder what Furizaa's point in this tournament was. Although to be fair Freeza will probably do something after.

I would like to see Frieza have a good fight besides jobbing to Jiren.

[DSB]

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

Vegeta haven't job since Black and he can't even job to Jiren since Goku did that already.

He hasnt have any big win. Even in RoF his win was taken away. So its actually worse. But I'm not saying I'm done with DragonBall.. When i didnt like the Copy Vegeta arc i left without saying a word. Missed out on a bulk of FT arc and came back on the episode where Trunks got SSRage.

All I'm saying, if you wanna say you are done. Stick to it. Or else, GTFO. Everyone says it but no one has the guts to do it.