"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Jigurashi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:56 am

TheOne wrote:Not exactly sure why everyone is just “loling” that Vegeta is automatically going to be knocked out the ring when he fights Jiren. Hasn’t Jiren been notorious for not finishing off opponents..? Both Kale and Goku have had that happen to them.

Don’t give me that”it’s towards the end so he will knock him out for sure” kinda ordeal, because that doesn’t have to be the case. We were told that there was a cool Vegeta episode waiting for us, so I doubt things are just going to end up with Vegeta just getting one shotted or made to look like an idiot. Something interesting is obviously going to happen, despite what Vegeta haters want to say.
Depends. If Vegeta confronts Jiren first, then he might get eliminated. Only people Jiren eliminated are people who confronted him first.

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Post by Simere » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:57 am

DSB wrote:
Kenneth La Torre wrote:
DSB wrote:My two cents are that Vegeta WILL actually make Jiren bother enough to try and fight. Much less than Hit but more than KKx20 SSB Goku. Then he's gonna be thrown out by Jiren with his Signature Pose.
If you think vegetas SSB is more than 20x stronger than gokus SSB, then you are delusional.
Vegeta trained for Months inside ROSAT. Also he was stronger than Goku as SSB in the end of Black saga. I dont see why he cant go beyond Goku as of now, before UI. Last time he trained in Rosat for half a day, he came from much below to Goku to Much above Goku.
Vegeta's trip to the RoSaT this arc wasn't months, it was 15 days.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:58 am

17 and 18 will go down to Universe 3.
Goku, Vegeta and Gohan will beat Universe 3
Vegeta will lose to Jiren.
Gohan will beat Dyspo.
Frieza will beat Toppo.
Goku and Gohan will lose to Jiren.
Frieza knocks out a weakened Jiren.

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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:59 am

HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:Not pleased at the news of Vegeta getting UI/fighting Jiren.

That means we will, yet again, be treated to Vegeta being used to show how powerful the oponent REALLY is. :x
Where was it ever said Vegeta was getting UI?
Here:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:02 am

SonReggie wrote:
HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:Not pleased at the news of Vegeta getting UI/fighting Jiren.

That means we will, yet again, be treated to Vegeta being used to show how powerful the oponent REALLY is. :x
Where was it ever said Vegeta was getting UI?
Here:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

There is no way this could end well for Vegeta - there is NO scenario where we don't get a Goku vs Jiren rematch, so.....
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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:02 am

SonReggie wrote:
HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:Not pleased at the news of Vegeta getting UI/fighting Jiren.

That means we will, yet again, be treated to Vegeta being used to show how powerful the oponent REALLY is. :x
Where was it ever said Vegeta was getting UI?
Here:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
You're seeing some rando ask if he will get UI, the only thing we have on 122 is the title "Staking His Pride! Vegeta Challenges the Strongest!!"

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Post by Kanassa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:03 am

SonReggie wrote:
HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:Not pleased at the news of Vegeta getting UI/fighting Jiren.

That means we will, yet again, be treated to Vegeta being used to show how powerful the oponent REALLY is. :x
Where was it ever said Vegeta was getting UI?
Here:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
So, it wasn't said?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:05 am

Double post in error
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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:05 am

SonReggie wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
SonReggie wrote: Here:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
You're seeing some rando ask if he will get UI, the only thing we have on 122 is the title "Staking His Pride! Vegeta Challenges the Strongest!!"
And a picture of UI Vegeta stood by Jiren.

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Post by Birusu16 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:06 am

Vegeta's getting something. The episodes name is all about him, he's fighting Jiren, and it's going to have top of the line animation. It's clearly a BIG episode. We already know SSB/SSBKKx20 is nothing to Jiren, so either Vegeta's SSB is going to be massively stronger than SSBKKx20 or he's going to get a version of UI. There's no other way he can even slightly push Jiren otherwise. Obviously he's not going to win, but if you really think it's going to be an utter stomp when the episode is CLEARLY about Vegeta then I don't know what to tell you.

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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:07 am

SonReggie wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: You're seeing some rando ask if he will get UI, the only thing we have on 122 is the title "Staking His Pride! Vegeta Challenges the Strongest!!"
And clearly pictured is Vegeta in UI form.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:09 am

SonReggie wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
And clearly pictured is Vegeta in UI form.
That's a fan picture. That thing been on the net for months.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by SonReggie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:12 am

HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
And clearly pictured is Vegeta in UI form.
That's a fan picture. That thing been on the net for months.
Whatever. We know for a fact that Vegeta will be fighting Jiren. We know for a fact that SSB and SSBKKx20 (which Vegeta can't even do anyway) are useless against Jiren. We also know that Vegeta witnessed Goku, using SSBKKx20, get stomped by Jiren.

Therefore, as far as I am concerned, Vegeta is gettting UI.
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Post by TheOne » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:13 am

HeroR wrote:
TheOne wrote:
Just because that happens to Goku doesn’t mean it’ll be for Vegeta. Vegeta personally could find it easier to attack but harder for him to dodge. We don’t really have enough detail to say one way or another yet.

If Gogeta was fighting Jiren, I’d imagine he’d only need it for a few minutes since their fight would potentially be the last one on the stage and right at the end.

Again, Whis said that everyone thinks before attacking. This isn't some problem unique to Goku and Vegeta attacking like a madman doesn't mean he will find attacking with UI easier. It is more complex than that.

Gogeta would last a few seconds, not minutes.
Where in the world did you come up with the conclusion that Gogeta would last a few seconds...?

If you’re gonna bring up the stamina issue, we saw them completely throw it out the window when Caulifla and Kale fused. They were unfazed. So it really all depends on plot and what they decide to do. Sitting here stating that Gogeta would last a few seconds is something you came up with by yourself.
How i predict the tournament will end:

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Post by Zamasu55 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:13 am

So, Piccolo's next. When he hasn't done anything at all unlike 18. Nice.

The latter's safe till 121 at least. Okay...

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Post by greeZH » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:18 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:17 and 18 will go down to Universe 3.
Goku, Vegeta and Gohan will beat Universe 3
Vegeta will lose to Jiren.
Gohan will beat Dyspo.
Frieza will beat Toppo.
Goku and Gohan will lose to Jiren.
Frieza knocks out a weakened Jiren.
Hell yea.
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Post by Jigurashi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:19 am

So people are treating their assumptions as fact as per usual. As for Vegeta, my prediction is that he doesn't get UI.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:19 am

SonReggie wrote:
HeroR wrote:
SonReggie wrote:
And clearly pictured is Vegeta in UI form.
That's a fan picture. That thing been on the net for months.
Whatever. We know for a fact that Vegeta will be fighting Jiren. We know for a fact that SSB and SSBKKx20 (which Vegeta can't even do anyway) are useless against Jiren. We also know that Vegeta witnessed Goku, using SSBKKx20, get stomped by Jiren.

Therefore, as far as I am concerned, Vegeta is gettting UI.
You're really gonna die on this hill?

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:21 am

TheOne wrote:
Where in the world did you come up with the conclusion that Gogeta would last a few seconds...?

If you’re gonna bring up the stamina issue, we saw them completely throw it out the window when Caulifla and Kale fused. They were unfazed. So it really all depends on plot and what they decide to do. Sitting here stating that Gogeta would last a few seconds is something you came up with by yourself.
Because Vegetto Blue with an one hour time limit lasted only a few minutes. Gogeta would have a 30 minute time limit and UI have shown itself to be more draining than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan to the point that Goku can only hold it for about two minutes. So, we can conclude that Gogeta wouldn't last long.

Kelfa was a Super Saiyan 2, a powerful one, but still a Super Saiyan 2, which is less draining than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan or UI.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by greeZH » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:27 am

Jigurashi wrote:So people are treating their assumptions as fact as per usual. As for Vegeta, my prediction is that he doesn't get UI.
I hope not.

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