"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:01 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote: We know Piccolo will be back fighting again but for Gohan fans like you or people that are fans of Androids and Frieza you know they may never fight again.
No need to lose it mate, It's okay, it's gonna be okay, Piccolo will never relevant again, let it out.. let it all out..
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:01 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote: If they go to Universe 6 then most likely the whole of Universe 6 will be involved. That includes Frost, Hit, Saonel, Pirina and Botamo. Dr Rota wouod probably be the only exception. That would mean others frok Universe 7 will also be involved.
Not all of U7 would be involved.

17 goes back to his Island
18 back to becoming a housewife.
Krillin retires again
Roshi heads home again
Tenshinan back to his dojo
Freeza back to hell

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Post by precita » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Yeah, I can only see maybe Gohan going with Goku/Vegeta to the Saiyan planet, not anyone else. And that's a big if.

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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:04 pm

The_Destroyer wrote:People here talking about Tien and Piccolo's poor treatment yet I'm over here waiting for Yamcha to fight again :(
Lets wait for the Poachers mini arc, I'm sure he will get a Mumen Rider like moment, and besides his manga has exceeded expectations, selling over 150K before dropping out of the Oricon Top 50 ranking, thats a clear proof japanese fans care for Yamcha.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:05 pm

precita wrote:Yeah, I can only see maybe Gohan going with Goku/Vegeta to the Saiyan planet, not anyone else. And that's a big if.
Yeah no, gohan ain't going nowhere, I would like that but he doesn't have any business in a barbaric planet when he could be home hitting books on the couch..
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Post by The_Destroyer » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:07 pm

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The_Destroyer wrote:People here talking about Tien and Piccolo's poor treatment yet I'm over here waiting for Yamcha to fight again :(
Lets wait for the Poachers mini arc, I'm sure he will get a Mumen Rider like moment, and besides his manga has exceeded expectations, selling over 150K before dropping out of the Oricon Top 50 ranking, thats a clear proof japanese fans care for Yamcha.
At this point I doubt we're getting that. We're near to the climax of U7 vs U11, there is no way they'd interrupt it with island filler, especially if it was just the kids vs the poachers and not some more dangerous threat.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:08 pm

Olympian wrote:I find it weird (but never surprised) that Fandom only perceives two extremes as valid ways to narrate a given story. Either U7 is too dominating or it isn`t. If it is, you know its because Goku spends 5 episodes on one fight, if it isn`t, the rest of the cast is quickly dealt with.

This isn`t rocket science but between these two extremes, there`s a world of possibilities.
To be that guy, Goku's fight was four episodes. Also, Gohan and Piccolo took several episodes to deal with the U6 Namekians, even if they weren't the main focused.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by precita » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:10 pm

I can see Vegeta asking Gohan to come along. It's about time Gohan sees what Saiyans are like.

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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:10 pm

The_Destroyer wrote:
At this point I doubt we're getting that. We're near to the climax of U7 vs U11, there is no way they'd interrupt it with island filler, especially if it was just the kids vs the poachers and not some more dangerous threat.
I expect the Poachers stuff to happen After the ToP is over(I feel the mini arc will be at most 3 episodes long), I'm kinda interested in it because 18 said Maron was "strong", and also could serve to rebuild both Goten and Trunks.

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Post by precita » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:11 pm

The poacher stuff will just be a 1 ep filler story for Trunks/Goten.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:15 pm

BlueVegerot wrote:Vegeta won't get UI ( my opinion only) but he's not gonna get one shotted or go out like a total chump. Remember Hit put up a fight with jiren and kefla actually landed a couple ki blasts on UI goku. It wouldn't surprise me if they combined his time chamber training + desire to protect his family + typical vegeta never quit attitude and gave him some OP ass power boost in SSB or a higher form of blue itself.
She didn’t, unless you’re counting her cutting a piece of Goku’s hair.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by TheSaiyanGod » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:16 pm

I'm really starting to disappoint myself with ToP ...

First, Kuririn and Tenshinhan did not have any outstanding fighting (Kuririn had a whole EP in the recruitment dedicated only to him, I expected a much better performance).
Although Tenshinhan's role in recruiting was even more ridiculous.

Narirama being defeated with a Kyabe base kick, no exploration of Yardrats techniques and several other potential characters were wasted.

Now, Piccolo will be completely wasted and his only moments were to serve as shield for Gohan / to be saved by him, to catch up with several warriors and to use a Special Beam Cannon to defeat the Nameks of U6 ...

On EP 122, TOEI will do the same thing, humiliate Vegeta.
Vegeta did not have his fight finished with Toppo and now he's going to challenge Jiren stupidly (since he knows he has no chance against him).
Probably he will be humiliated and will be reasons for more jokes ...

Universes being erased in one episode, without any exploration, is also very disappointing (mostly pro U4). Not to mention that we practically only have fights of Goku
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:17 pm

precita wrote:I can see Vegeta asking Gohan to come along. It's about time Gohan sees what Saiyans are like.
iF we get Planet Sadala Arc confirmed for 2018, then it should be Vegetas Arc.

Trunks Arc: Obviously had Trunks as the MC.

ToP: It kinda makes sense Goku is the focus because he is the one that started the whole thing.

Planet Sadala: Vegeta getting the focus, its very logical imo.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:18 pm

perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).

The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Toyo uses less of the cast than Toei. Just look at the Future Trunks Saga. The anime used Piccolo. In the manga, he did nothing.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by precita » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:20 pm

Vegeta should have lost a lot earlier.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:21 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote: We know Piccolo will be back fighting again but for Gohan fans like you or people that are fans of Androids and Frieza you know they may never fight again.
No need to lose it mate, It's okay, it's gonna be okay, Piccolo will never relevant again, let it out.. let it all out..
You know that Piccolo will be involved again and I know you are worried about seeing Gohan at the start of the next arc in his glasses and green tracksuit again.
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namekiansaiyan wrote: If they go to Universe 6 then most likely the whole of Universe 6 will be involved. That includes Frost, Hit, Saonel, Pirina and Botamo. Dr Rota wouod probably be the only exception. That would mean others frok Universe 7 will also be involved.
Not all of U7 would be involved.

17 goes back to his Island
18 back to becoming a housewife.
Krillin retires again
Roshi heads home again
Tenshinan back to his dojo
Freeza back to hell
Look at who you didn't mention.
precita wrote:Yeah, I can only see maybe Gohan going with Goku/Vegeta to the Saiyan planet, not anyone else. And that's a big if.
That is if the arc is only about that planet.

You think they will miss an opportunity to bring back Hit, Frost, Saonel and Pirina, Magetta and Botamo?

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Post by sintzu » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:22 pm

HeroR wrote:The anime used Piccolo. In the manga, he did nothing.
Picking vegetables for ChiChi isn't exactly what fans have in mind when they say they want to see someone like Piccolo get screen time.
precita wrote:Vegeta should have lost a lot earlier.
:lol:
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Post by TheSaiyanGod » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm

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perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).

The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Toyo uses less of the cast than Toei. Just look at the Future Trunks Saga. The anime used Piccolo. In the manga, he did nothing.
Piccolo in FT Saga only appeared because TOEI had this screen time available, but it did not have any highlight (after all, that was not in Toriyama's script).

In ToP, we know that the U7 team's warriors will fight, so at least they will have some highlight

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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm

HeroR wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).

The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Toyo uses less of the cast than Toei. Just look at the Future Trunks Saga. The anime used Piccolo. In the manga, he did nothing.
Why? Vegeta losing early wouldn’t have saved Piccolo since Vegeta had no interaction with Piccolo at all this arc.

Fans need to stop scapegoating characters because their favorite or a well-liked character was treated unfairly.
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perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).

The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Toyo uses less of the cast than Toei. Just look at the Future Trunks Saga. The anime used Piccolo. In the manga, he did nothing.
Piccolo in FT Saga only appeared because TOEI had this screen time available, but it did not have any highlight (after all, that was not in Toriyama's script).

In ToP, we know that the U7 team's warriors will fight, so at least they will have some highlight
He was the one who told everyone about the Evil Containment Wave and indirectly taught it to Future Trunks. In the manga, Goku knew the story of King Piccolo and his first defeat despite never hearing it in the manga.

My point, Toyo doesn’t have a good record either of using the cast. Like Buu fans got thrown a born with him fighting Basil.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:26 pm

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namekiansaiyan wrote: We know Piccolo will be back fighting again but for Gohan fans like you or people that are fans of Androids and Frieza you know they may never fight again.
No need to lose it mate, It's okay, it's gonna be okay, Piccolo will never relevant again, let it out.. let it all out..
You know that Piccolo will be involved again and I know you are worried about seeing Gohan at the start of the next arc in his glasses and green tracksuit again.
I would be if the manga didn't have me covered with him in character..
He's either in there full force or he's fully out, no cock teasing, just the way I like it..

Don't worry mate, when it's time cry again when Piccolo inevitable remains irrelevant, I would be there, someone needs to keep giving ya reality checks :lol:
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