"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[TheMightyOzaru]

Tobi's intangible (this applies to most of the Bleach cast, too), Madara is currently dead and Kakashi can teleport things to a different dimension never to be heard from again. This is to say nothing of the mind control arts they have. No character in Dragon Ball could deal with that based on everything insofar stated regarding their abilities because they've never faced those sorts of powers. I wouldn't have made the comment if I wasn't right.

Sigh... Intangibility means nothing when Goku has the Genki Dama, the Genki Drama is a technique that attacks the soul. Intangibility means nothing. A different dimension is supposed to be threatening? I guess you don't remember that Gotenks and Buu ripping out of a dimension before? Mind control? First of all I would like to see an example of that, secondly, if this is genjutsu it won't work. Genjutsu manipulates the chakra in your body and since no DBZ character has chakra it won't work. You also seem to be forgetting that Goku, or anyone for that matter, could just speed blitz these characters. Seriously Naruto is downright screwed.

[Saiga]

Tobi's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes anyway, and he can't attack during that time. So he's going to inevitably lose. Madara won't lose because he just keeps regenerating, but he isn't going to win either. Kakashi's ability drains him and only can be done twice before he's out, and would be so easy for any DBZ character to overcome when they can just spam ki blasts that he needs to absorb or be killed by. Or they could just speed blitz him, he has enough trouble aiming Kamui as it is and there is no way he's hitting a target he can't see.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Tobi's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes anyway, and he can't attack during that time. So he's going to inevitably lose. Madara won't lose because he just keeps regenerating, but he isn't going to win either. Kakashi's ability drains him and only can be done twice before he's out, and would be so easy for any DBZ character to overcome when they can just spam ki blasts that he needs to absorb or be killed by. Or they could just speed blitz him, he has enough trouble aiming Kamui as it is and there is no way he's hitting a target he can't see.

Thank you! However Madara should still get screwed via being atomized by a Genki Dama or maybe even a basic Ki technique seeing the immense power it has in comparison to his durability.

[vince90x]

I know one thing, for sure. After playing UT, I definitely plan on renting any DB game first..

[Saimaroimaru]

Tobi's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes anyway, and he can't attack during that time. So he's going to inevitably lose. Madara won't lose because he just keeps regenerating, but he isn't going to win either. Kakashi's ability drains him and only can be done twice before he's out, and would be so easy for any DBZ character to overcome when they can just spam ki blasts that he needs to absorb or be killed by. Or they could just speed blitz him, he has enough trouble aiming Kamui as it is and there is no way he's hitting a target he can't see.

Thank you! However Madara should still get screwed via being atomized by a Genki Dama or maybe even a basic Ki technique seeing the immense power it has in comparison to his durability.

It may stomp him for a bit but he will still regenerate being a edo tensei. The Meteor attack he used should of displayed that to you. The only way to deal with Madara is to have a technique that attacks the soul.

[Xeogran]

Tobi's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes anyway, and he can't attack during that time. So he's going to inevitably lose. Madara won't lose because he just keeps regenerating, but he isn't going to win either. Kakashi's ability drains him and only can be done twice before he's out, and would be so easy for any DBZ character to overcome when they can just spam ki blasts that he needs to absorb or be killed by. Or they could just speed blitz him, he has enough trouble aiming Kamui as it is and there is no way he's hitting a target he can't see.

Couldn't Tobi just go intangible and suck in DBZ Characters that can't Teleport? I think atleast he has a chance against some.

Then again, he needs to be touchable to use Kamui in the first place. But he always could use Izanagi to survive a Ki Blast.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I don't mean to mini-mod, but shouldn't this be in the versus thread? It's like really off topic.

[Xeogran]

I don't mean to mini-mod, but shouldn't this be in the versus thread? It's like really off topic.

This topic is about nothing regardless of whatever we post. Namco Bandai trolled all of us. Atleast we have found some use out of it.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

There will be something announced though, they just tried to build up hype for the upcoming game. I'm just trying to say there's already a thread for these type of discussions.

[dbboxkaifan]

11 May 2011 was when Ultimate Tenkaichi was announced right? Well, we're not too far from May any more.

Just hope it's not rehashed shit, the franchise needs new great quality games.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

It was announced on the 8th in Weekly Shōnen Jump. We should know soon.

[JulieYBM]

Sigh... Intangibility means nothing when Goku has the Genki Dama, the Genki Drama is a technique that attacks the soul. Intangibility means nothing. A different dimension is supposed to be threatening? I guess you don't remember that Gotenks and Buu ripping out of a dimension before? Mind control? First of all I would like to see an example of that, secondly, if this is genjutsu it won't work. Genjutsu manipulates the chakra in your body and since no DBZ character has chakra it won't work. You also seem to be forgetting that Goku, or anyone for that matter, could just speed blitz these characters. Seriously Naruto is downright screwed.

Gokuu isn't going to form a Genki-dama is in the two second it's take Tobi to remove his brain or heart from his body, instantly killing him. Don't give me your 'sigh' bullshit like I'm some kind of idiot when I have offered no such insult worthy of your disrespect.

[Jaruka]

Sigh... Intangibility means nothing when Goku has the Genki Dama, the Genki Drama is a technique that attacks the soul. Intangibility means nothing. A different dimension is supposed to be threatening? I guess you don't remember that Gotenks and Buu ripping out of a dimension before? Mind control? First of all I would like to see an example of that, secondly, if this is genjutsu it won't work. Genjutsu manipulates the chakra in your body and since no DBZ character has chakra it won't work. You also seem to be forgetting that Goku, or anyone for that matter, could just speed blitz these characters. Seriously Naruto is downright screwed.

Gokuu isn't going to form a Genki-dama is in the two second it's take Tobi to remove his brain or heart from his body, instantly killing him. Don't give me your 'sigh' bullshit like I'm some kind of idiot when I have offered no such insult worthy of your disrespect.

When has Tobi taken out anyone's heart? Is there any evidence that he can do this?

Also, how do you expect Tobi to move fast enough against something such as instant transmission.

In order to make Naruto characters even stand a chance you really have to grasp at straws.

Even if Tobi can do it, what about Cell? What about Piccolo?

[dbboxkaifan]

Take this with a grain of salt:

Nostal / Treevax: Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions.

(it was already posted here somewhere on the topic)

If this is true then they're just rehashing another game from the past with a few improvements and nothing new to the plate, so eliminate excitement and expectations you had.

Namco Bandai stop ruining the Dragon Ball franchise, this is so annoying!

[Cold Skin]

Take this with a grain of salt:

Nostal / Treevax: Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions.

(it was already posted here somewhere on the topic)

If this is true then they're just rehashing another game from the past with a few improvements and nothing new to the plate, so eliminate excitement and expectations you had.

Namco Bandai stop ruining the Dragon Ball franchise, this is so annoying!

But what is exactly that synthesis he's talking about?
I hope it involves a huge story mode with lots of cutscenes (finally having an equivalent to Budokai 1's cutscenes looking like a full super-high-tech remake would be great!).
And I hope it doesn't involve something like senseless battles one after another, like a horrible Arcade mode or Galaxy mode!!

[TheDevilsCorpse]

But what is exactly that synthesis he's talking about?
I hope it involves a huge story mode with lots of cutscenes (finally having an equivalent to Budokai 1's cutscenes looking like a full super-high-tech remake would be great!).
And I hope it doesn't involve something like senseless battles one after another, like a horrible Arcade mode or Galaxy mode!!

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[Xeogran]

Take this with a grain of salt:

Nostal / Treevax: Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions.

(it was already posted here somewhere on the topic)

If this is true then they're just rehashing another game from the past with a few improvements and nothing new to the plate, so eliminate excitement and expectations you had.

Namco Bandai stop ruining the Dragon Ball franchise, this is so annoying!

But what is exactly that synthesis he's talking about?
I hope it involves a huge story mode with lots of cutscenes (finally having an equivalent to Budokai 1's cutscenes looking like a full super-high-tech remake would be great!).
And I hope it doesn't involve something like senseless battles one after another, like a horrible Arcade mode or Galaxy mode!!

I'm still really annoyed that after like how long, we still had no good story in a 3D DBZ Game. I would love to see something else animated except than the rehashed scenes all the time (Freeza killing Krillin, Gohan finishing off Cell etc).

Where is Goku and Gohan training in Room of Spirit and Time, Goku teaching Goten&Trunks how to fuse on Kami's Palace, or even Vegetto vs Buu (Detailed Boss Battle)?

All they do is keep the same thing over and over. Hey, dialogues and character interactions are important too, you know.

My favorite DBZ Game story is Gaiden: Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku for the NES, as it had enjoyable experience and created a whole new atmosphere.

[Ryuman]

A game incorporating the ideas Treevax has gets a plus from me. I also think that NB would have ideas of their own too, since I find it hard to believe the whole company and investors or whatever would be okay with a game comprised completely from fan ideas.

[miguelnuva1]

Take this with a grain of salt:

Nostal / Treevax: Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions.

(it was already posted here somewhere on the topic)

If this is true then they're just rehashing another game from the past with a few improvements and nothing new to the plate, so eliminate excitement and expectations you had.

Namco Bandai stop ruining the Dragon Ball franchise, this is so annoying!

You do know that Tenkaichi 4 is the most highly requested DBZ game right. Tenkaichi 3 or Budokai 4/Burst Limt 2 would out sell a new title by miles if done right.

The fighting in Tenkaichi was almost perfect it was just other areas that needed improvement such as story mode.

[Silkman3003]

Sigh... Intangibility means nothing when Goku has the Genki Dama, the Genki Drama is a technique that attacks the soul. Intangibility means nothing. A different dimension is supposed to be threatening? I guess you don't remember that Gotenks and Buu ripping out of a dimension before? Mind control? First of all I would like to see an example of that, secondly, if this is genjutsu it won't work. Genjutsu manipulates the chakra in your body and since no DBZ character has chakra it won't work. You also seem to be forgetting that Goku, or anyone for that matter, could just speed blitz these characters. Seriously Naruto is downright screwed.

Gokuu isn't going to form a Genki-dama is in the two second it's take Tobi to remove his brain or heart from his body, instantly killing him. Don't give me your 'sigh' bullshit like I'm some kind of idiot when I have offered no such insult worthy of your disrespect.

Kamui from Kakashi is nice and all, but he needs to be able to actually have a solid sight on him. Unless you are arguing that goku stands like an idiot, in a real fight, kakashi would be killed. Kakashi doesn't even start his fights off with kamui, so one hit from Goku would already kill him if they were to fight. And if you want to use that stupid blood lusted logic about how "in character" shouldnt be factors ? Then goku blitzes easily and kills him. So either way, your argument holds no water.

And what are you talking about? Goku has sensing, so surprise moves against Goku , especially someone with vastly inferior speed and reactions wouldn't work. Tobi needs to be solid in order to actually warp him, and his intangibility only lasts 5 minutes. The time it takes for him to be solid and warp , he'd already have a ki blast or fist to his skull. Izanagi? Hardly any difference. It just slightly delays his defeat. And no, obito can't remove Goku's heart from his body or brain. You made that up, lmao. Tobi has never done that, so please do not lie in order to suit your arguments. The only way Tobi would have a slight chance in defeating him is if goku stood around like an idiot and wasn't prepared to fight, and allowed him to do his move.

Madara can't be killed, but his attacks can't kill Goku either. Edo Madaras best feats are slicing mountains with perfect susanoo as an edo. And Z characters take mountain destroying attacks and destroy mountains and islands casually. Goku doesn't need to even kill him, only BFR.


Anyway, to go on topic I wouldn't mind if the new game was a newer tenkaichi game or budokai game. I don't really care for "new" things, outside of improving the battlesystem of those established games. No adventure games, no cardgames, not interested in them. I've always liked Z fighting games, and always will and thus would want the newer games to be fighting games. As long as they have enough Z content, plus a decent fighting system. Just nothing like Ultimate Tenkaichi please, outside of it's story mode. It seemed decent with the large boss battles implemented.