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by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:41 am
pitrako wrote:Do you people think It's fair that Saiyans get 2 exclusive transformations but other races not even get one transformation (except kaioken, but kaioken is generic)?
I think its offset by them having relatively low and/or imbalanced stats compared to the other races. The Saiyans fit the glass cannon archtype among the races with the benefit of automatically rising Ki. The Humans are the jack of all trades being the most evenly balanced and Namekians are centered around longevity with high health and the fasted stamina regen of the races and the Majin are naturally the most sturdy with the highest defense.
All in all I think the SSJ forms are fair as they do drain Ki and cant be held indefinitely during a match.
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by pitrako » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:48 am
KentalSSJ6 wrote:I think its offset by them having relatively low and/or imbalanced stats compared to the other races. The Saiyans fit the glass cannon archtype among the races with the benefit of automatically rising Ki. The Humans are the jack of all trades being the most evenly balanced and Namekians are centered around longevity with high health and the fasted stamina regen of the races and the Majin are naturally the most sturdy with the highest defense.
All in all I think the SSJ forms are fair as they do drain Ki and cant be held indefinitely during a match.
Can you charge ki (with the "ki charge" skill) using the SSJ form?
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by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:51 am
pitrako wrote:Can you charge ki (with the "ki charge" skill) using the SSJ form?
I believe so. I saw a few videos where we see Goku charging up as a SSJ. I imagine the amount of Ki you receive will be hampered as it would be offset by the drain SSJ has on it. For example say you receive 10 Ki per second while in Base yet in SSJ you may only get 5. See where I'm going with this?
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by pitrako » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:14 am
KentalSSJ6 wrote:pitrako wrote:Can you charge ki (with the "ki charge" skill) using the SSJ form?
I believe so. I saw a few videos where we see Goku charging up as a SSJ. I imagine the amount of Ki you receive will be hampered as it would be offset by the drain SSJ has on it. For example say you receive 10 Ki per second while in Base yet in SSJ you may only get 5. See where I'm going with this?
Yes but at least they could give us mystic transformation (in the new trailer Gohan transforms into mystic instead or being already transformed) or majin boost for everyone ("M" in the forehead and aura intensity, easy), something like that (I'm a little bored of the kaioken).
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by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:27 am
pitrako wrote:KentalSSJ6 wrote:pitrako wrote:Can you charge ki (with the "ki charge" skill) using the SSJ form?
I believe so. I saw a few videos where we see Goku charging up as a SSJ. I imagine the amount of Ki you receive will be hampered as it would be offset by the drain SSJ has on it. For example say you receive 10 Ki per second while in Base yet in SSJ you may only get 5. See where I'm going with this?
Yes but at least they could give us mystic transformation (in the new trailer Gohan transforms into mystic instead or being already transformed) or majin boost for everyone ("M" in the forehead and aura intensity, easy), something like that (I'm a little bored of the kaioken).
I doubt Gohan's Mystic form will be available to custom characters. If you wanna go Mystic just do what I'm gonna do and skip transformations entirely (at least until the possible chance we get SSJ4) and focus on maxing your stats. Gives you a extra ultimate to work with.
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by pitrako » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:44 am
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
I doubt Gohan's Mystic form will be available to custom characters. If you wanna go Mystic just do what I'm gonna do and skip transformations entirely (at least until the possible chance we get SSJ4) and focus on maxing your stats. Gives you a extra ultimate to work with.
Why then they don't make a separate character or skin with different hair for Gohan with the stats already changed instead of transforming in battle?
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by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:15 pm
pitrako wrote:KentalSSJ6 wrote:
I doubt Gohan's Mystic form will be available to custom characters. If you wanna go Mystic just do what I'm gonna do and skip transformations entirely (at least until the possible chance we get SSJ4) and focus on maxing your stats. Gives you a extra ultimate to work with.
Why then they don't make a separate character or skin with different hair for Gohan with the stats already changed instead of transforming in battle?
This isn't like the old Budokai games. As I recall, each character will have costume choices with set movesets. Ultimate Gohan will likely be a costume choice for adult Gohan, or an entirely different character. Hard to tell at this point.
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by Shinnin » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:50 pm
BlazingBarrrager wrote:pitrako wrote:KentalSSJ6 wrote:
I doubt Gohan's Mystic form will be available to custom characters. If you wanna go Mystic just do what I'm gonna do and skip transformations entirely (at least until the possible chance we get SSJ4) and focus on maxing your stats. Gives you a extra ultimate to work with.
Why then they don't make a separate character or skin with different hair for Gohan with the stats already changed instead of transforming in battle?
This isn't like the old Budokai games. As I recall, each character will have costume choices with set movesets. Ultimate Gohan will likely be a costume choice for adult Gohan, or an entirely different character. Hard to tell at this point.
I think it'll most likely be the transformation that's tied to Goku's gi. The way they have it, it'd be a waste of slot to have him as a separate character from Buu Saga Gohan.
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by pitrako » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:46 pm
Shinnin wrote:I think it'll most likely be the transformation that's tied to Goku's gi. The way they have it, it'd be a waste of slot to have him as a separate character from Buu Saga Gohan.
Yes, but in the trailer he transforms like a SSJ (same pose but no aura burst or hair color/form change), they can recycle that easily for custom character use, I don't think It's only for Gohan's orange Gi.
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by GogesusSSG » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:38 pm
Gohan is a master according to the trophy list so if we can learn techniques from masters then there is a chance the created characters can attain it providing Gohan himself has the form.
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by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:44 pm
GogesusSSG wrote:Gohan is a master according to the trophy list so if we can learn techniques from masters then there is a chance the created characters can attain it providing Gohan himself has the form.
I seriously doubt it.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:57 pm
BlazingBarrrager wrote:GogesusSSG wrote:Gohan is a master according to the trophy list so if we can learn techniques from masters then there is a chance the created characters can attain it providing Gohan himself has the form.
I seriously doubt it.
At the most I can see it working like UT. A series of challenges/matches where you progressively unlock abilities of your Master ending in being able to use their melee moveset.
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by pitrako » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:38 pm
Ok, we only gonna get kaioken then I suppose.
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by GogesusSSG » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:53 pm
pitrako wrote:Ok, we only gonna get kaioken then I suppose.
Probably, but there was the skill 'Potential Unlock' found in the data-mine, but given that super saiyan 3 was also in that as well and that it won't be in the initial release and could be included as dlc probably means transformations for non saiyan races is unlikely.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:55 pm
GogesusSSG wrote:Probably, but there was the skill 'Potential Unlock' found in the data-mine, but given that super saiyan 3 was also in that as well and that it won't be in the initial release and could be included as dlc probably means transformations for non saiyan races is unlikely.
Well, it will be in there. It just won't be utilized by the avatars of course. Goku and Gotenks still technically need it for their preset costumes.
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by Nightzus » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:56 pm
GogesusSSG wrote:pitrako wrote:Ok, we only gonna get kaioken then I suppose.
Probably, but there was the skill 'Potential Unlock' found in the data-mine, but given that super saiyan 3 was also in that as well and that it won't be in the initial release and could be included as dlc probably means transformations for non saiyan races is unlikely.
Are we sure SSJ3 won't be in the initial release ? They said they will try to I think. Maybe they said that knowing they will so that we will be thankful

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by Blade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:00 pm
Nightzus wrote:GogesusSSG wrote:pitrako wrote:Ok, we only gonna get kaioken then I suppose.
Probably, but there was the skill 'Potential Unlock' found in the data-mine, but given that super saiyan 3 was also in that as well and that it won't be in the initial release and could be included as dlc probably means transformations for non saiyan races is unlikely.
Are we sure SSJ3 won't be in the initial release ? They said they will try to I think. Maybe they said that knowing they will so that we will be thankful

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by Saiga » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:57 pm
pitrako wrote:Do you people think It's fair that Saiyans get 2 exclusive transformations but other races not even get one transformation (except kaioken, but kaioken is generic)?
The other races don't really have transformations that are exclusive to them, so yes. I think it'd be bullshit if we got an Ultimate Tenkaichi situation where we were restricted to Super Saiyan 1 to be fairer - or worse, no transformations, to be completely even.
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by El Diabeetus » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:08 pm
jjgp1112 wrote:DarkPrince_92 wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:Just watched the trailer. That part with Freeza quite clearly sounded like Chris Ayres.
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But who was Cell? Doesn't sound like Willingham... and that couldn't be Clarke... could it? It was so off.
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by GoldLiger » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:31 pm
Even though we don't know if SS3 is going to be release as a DLC pack alongside the GT story arcs(or they intend to release a GT story arc DLC) we should still agree that Dimps wouldn't leave the other races hanging without a power boost of some time to make them equal to a SS2(or SS3 if they do indeed offer it as future DLC).
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