The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Mjb1985]

Considering they won, I wouldn't exactly call it butt rape. Lol. Maybe vaginal rape though.

[Draken]

Considering they won, I wouldn't exactly call it butt rape. Lol. Maybe vaginal rape though.

Mufaba isn't exactly "capable" of fighting someone. It's like saying when you catch a bear because of a bear trap, you were capable of going head to head with the bear. I thought you were talking about their earlier encounters when Crane, Turtle, and Mutaito went head to head and got effortlessly owned.

[Mjb1985]

Yes you are right. But still. Young Roshi seems to be a heck of a lot stronger than Old Roshi. And Old Roshi is probably pretty close to Goku is he not?

[Kamiccolo9]

Goku seems to think that a Metamoran Gokan could definitely beat Buutenks. His utter confidence makes me feel he could perhaps beat Buuhan as well. I think it's possible that the weaker fighter determines the fusions power at least with Metamoran fusion considering the stronger fighter must come down to the weaker fighters power. So I think Gogeta and Gokan would have the same power.

The only othe fighter who is also suggested to be over Buutenks would be a Base Potara Gokan. So I get the impression that this could works.


Base Gokan ( Potara ) ~ Ssj3 Gokan ( Metamoran ) ~ Ssj 3 Gogeta > Buuhan > Buutenks

Ummm..wouldn't Gokan be stronger?I mean,Gogeta=suppressed Goku to Vegeta's level.
So Gokan would be:suppressed Gohan to Goku's level.As for the fights,in my opinion,Gogeta wins and stomps as SSJ2 and SSJ3 respectively.
While hyphothetical Gogeta was stated to be no match for Gohan Boo by Boo himself,he was just being arrogant.
Then there is also SSJ Vegetto being surprised at his own power.
Vegetto: “…Well, don’t feel too bad. Even I’m surprised. To think that I’d be able to make this big a fool out of you.”
So I would place hyphothetical SSJ Gogeta probably under Gohan Boo,but above Gohan.

The Potara fusion is far superior to the metamorese fusion though. The Old Kaioshin said that "Gokan" wouldn't be strong enough to beat Buutenks, and Gogeta would be weaker than him. Gogeta shouldn't be all that much stronger than Gotenks.

[Draken]

The Potara fusion is far superior to the metamorese fusion though. The Old Kaioshin said that "Gokan" wouldn't be strong enough to beat Buutenks, and Gogeta would be weaker than him. Gogeta shouldn't be all that much stronger than Gotenks.

I personally feel that the boys are no where near their fathers' levels though... And I also follow the theory that Potara isn't exactly worlds of worlds above fusion dance. Gokan (especially potara) in my view would be stronger than Vegetto, or at least closer than a lot of you guys put him, and Gogeta maybe half Vegetto's strength at worst, which is actually a huge gap when we think about it.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It's stated in the daizenshuus that the potara are superior.

[Draken]

It's stated in the daizenshuus that the potara are superior.

I never argued that, just that it's not worlds and worlds above like some people make it out to be.

[Mjb1985]

You sure Kamiccolo ? I think Elder Kaioshin was fine with Metamoran Gokan fighting Buutenks , he just didn't think Buu would give him the time for them to fuse.

Which then he says well then what? Elder Kaioshin shows him the earrings , Goku questions if they should be transformed first and Elder Kaioshin says na you can take him in base.

[Kamiccolo9]

You sure Kamiccolo ? I think Elder Kaioshin was fine with Metamoran Gokan fighting Buutenks , he just didn't think Buu would give him the time for them to fuse.

Which then he says well then what? Elder Kaioshin shows him the earrings , Goku questions if they should be transformed first and Elder Kaioshin says na you can take him in base.

Do you have the quote on you? I just remember him saying something to the effect of "You mean that fusion those kid's have been doing? That's not gonna be enough." I don't have it right in front of me though, so that may be an anime line.

[TheMightyOzaru]

It's stated in the daizenshuus that the potara are superior.

I never argued that, just that it's not worlds and worlds above like some people make it out to be.

The SEG also says the result is like multiplication for Vegetto. It kinda is worlds above the dance.

[Mjb1985]

Yea Potara seems insanely haxed.

I think Base Gokan ( Potara ) is probably around Ssj3 Gokan ( Metamoran ). Just seems like insanity to me.

[Draken]

It's stated in the daizenshuus that the potara are superior.

I never argued that, just that it's not worlds and worlds above like some people make it out to be.

The SEG also says the result is like multiplication for Vegetto. It kinda is worlds above the dance.

Closer to multiplication than addition for sure but... if it were truly multiplication, then going by even Frieza arc levels Vegetto would be at least (3mill*2ishmill) = 6,000,000,000,000. 6 trillion. Then go SSJ and Vegetto is 300 trillion from Frieza arc levels. And they get way, way stronger in the Buu arc. Kinda overkill when a Genki Dama logically wouldn't be much more than 30 billion ain't it?

[RandomGuy96]

I think Buuhan would massacre SS Gogeta and SS2 Gogeta but get beaten in turn by SS3 Gogeta.

[Saiga]

I think there is no consistent result for fusion, so it could go either way.

[TheMightyOzaru]

And there is something wrong with that? Vegetto is an end game character so he can be that strong. It says like multiplication though so it doesn't have to be exact. I have base Vegetto at 1,000,000,000,000.

[PerfectFreeza]

How would Dabra vs. Bujin,Zangya and Bido go?
Who would win?

[BejitaSama]

I think Buuhan would massacre SS Gogeta and SS2 Gogeta but get beaten in turn by SS3 Gogeta.

I think it's impossible. Toei stated that Janemba > Hildegarn, and Goku SSJ3 anime is by sure strongest than both Gotenks and Gohan. So, there is no way that Gojita SSJ1 can't destroyed BuuGohan.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Movie logic doesn't amount to anything really, it can be disregarded by saying Gogeta was haxed in movie 12. I do agree though Ssj Gogeta would wipe the floor with Buuhan.

[Mjb1985]

I'm always confused by Bojack's henchmens power.

And he's Kamiccolo I believe it is an anime line , I know Viz doesn't have that in there. You read Japanese I presume Kamiccolo?

[BejitaSama]

I'm' sorry guys, but what does "hax" means ?