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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:00 am

Goku's never been above getting a little cocky in his fights.
Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
I haven't seen Super, how similar are the characters' personalities?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ki Breaker » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:39 am

ABED wrote:Goku's never been above getting a little cocky in his fights.
Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
I haven't seen Super, how similar are the characters' personalities?
He basically is freeza
With frost berrus revels how his techniques of capturing planets is the same as freeza's, we finally get to know how freeza's empire worked in more detail with forst.
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..

The only difference is he decided to keep an act of kindness Infront of others, which probably freeza would too if Saiyans were as strong as they were in our universe and someone like hit was common knowledge with maybe a god of destruction being more active too..
Freeza did talk very politely with berrus..

Frost is the result of what would happen if freeza knew there existed some active people in the universe who would could kill him if he wasn't careful, Saiyans being the main focus here, they are heroes after all..
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:56 am

Freeza would never pretend to be a good guy. Frost fooled everyone into thinking he had good intentions.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:24 pm

Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:28 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
I agree in regards to the anime, but I think the first part of the fight is the best part in the manga. Art is at Toriyama's best, with fluid transitions from panel to panel and a great sense of dynamism and perspective in the choreography.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:16 pm

I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
But would you consider Frost interesting?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:37 pm

ABED wrote:
Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
But would you consider Frost interesting?
Yes, while I was a bit disappointed that he wasn't actually a good guy, he still kept my interest and I'd enjoy seeing how he'll continue now that he's a wanted fugitive.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped nose

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Gog wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped nose
That.... Is what makes him a different character, if he hadn't had that it would literally be the same character..
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:24 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
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Ki Breaker wrote:
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped nose
That.... Is what makes him a different character, if he hadn't had that it would literally be the same character..
I know, at the very least what they can do in the next arc is make him a good guy, and more pragmatic.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:35 pm

Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
So basically Frost is Walmart Freeza?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:41 pm

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Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
So basically Frost is Walmart Freeza?
Not an apt caparison, Frost is the beef jerky to Freeza's deep cooked steak, with gravy toppings

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:52 pm

Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .

Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).

Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.

I'm not excited for EOZ.

Vegeta is at his best in Super.

Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:25 pm

kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .

Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).

Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.


I'm not excited for EOZ.

Vegeta is at his best in Super.

Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
How and why ?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Soppa Saia People wrote:
kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .

Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).

Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.


I'm not excited for EOZ.

Vegeta is at his best in Super.

Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
How and why ?
Idk, exactly how I want it done. Maybe hit could go tiens route and want to be a martial artist instead of an assassin ? I feel like tiens development was rushed and would like a better version of that.

Them father-son moments <3. He still has a lot of his arrogance, but isnt as much of an asshole and I appreciate that.
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Post by Noah » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:14 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
This is really an unpopular opinion, like gosh we had so much of Freeza before that I don't really see the need to have another copy of his playing an active role in the series. Well, I think I would like Frost more if his VA wasn't Ryusei Nakao.

Doctor. wrote:Freeza would never pretend to be a good guy. Frost fooled everyone into thinking he had good intentions.
Yes, so basically Freeza was a tyrant that ruled through fear and didn't gave a damn about his bad reputation and Frost is just a politician, he poses as a good person just to hide his dark deeds.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:01 am

Soppa Saia People wrote:
kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .

Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).

Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.


I'm not excited for EOZ.

Vegeta is at his best in Super.

Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
How and why ?
Hit's just a better character than Vegeta, he also bounce's of Goku more so than Vegeta does. Well Vegeta's certainly not at his worst in Dragon ball super.

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FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
This opinion is extremely unpopular, but I share it with you. Additionally, I found most of the fight with Frieza tedious because it lasted so long .

Here's another: long fights can ruin arcs that start out with great potential altogether.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:36 am

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FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
This opinion is extremely unpopular, but I share it with you. Additionally, I found most of the fight with Frieza tedious because it lasted so long .

Here's another: long fights can ruin arcs that start out with great potential altogether.
They can kill momentum, that's for sure. Although I have the exact opposite problem from you two, I found the fight perfectly fine until Goku became a Super Saiyan. After that, everything just drags to absolute hell.
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