I haven't seen Super, how similar are the characters' personalities?Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
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Goku's never been above getting a little cocky in his fights.
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He basically is freezaABED wrote:Goku's never been above getting a little cocky in his fights.
I haven't seen Super, how similar are the characters' personalities?Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
With frost berrus revels how his techniques of capturing planets is the same as freeza's, we finally get to know how freeza's empire worked in more detail with forst.
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
The only difference is he decided to keep an act of kindness Infront of others, which probably freeza would too if Saiyans were as strong as they were in our universe and someone like hit was common knowledge with maybe a god of destruction being more active too..
Freeza did talk very politely with berrus..
Frost is the result of what would happen if freeza knew there existed some active people in the universe who would could kill him if he wasn't careful, Saiyans being the main focus here, they are heroes after all..
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Freeza would never pretend to be a good guy. Frost fooled everyone into thinking he had good intentions.
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Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
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I agree in regards to the anime, but I think the first part of the fight is the best part in the manga. Art is at Toriyama's best, with fluid transitions from panel to panel and a great sense of dynamism and perspective in the choreography.FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
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I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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But would you consider Frost interesting?Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
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Yes, while I was a bit disappointed that he wasn't actually a good guy, he still kept my interest and I'd enjoy seeing how he'll continue now that he's a wanted fugitive.ABED wrote:But would you consider Frost interesting?Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped noseKi Breaker wrote:
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
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That.... Is what makes him a different character, if he hadn't had that it would literally be the same character..Gog wrote:Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped noseKi Breaker wrote:
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
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I know, at the very least what they can do in the next arc is make him a good guy, and more pragmatic.Ki Breaker wrote:That.... Is what makes him a different character, if he hadn't had that it would literally be the same character..Gog wrote:Actually Frost has more difference's than that. Frost's gem's are blue, he lacks the stripes that Freeza has in his first form, he also has the saiyan like pads in his first form. His third form has different spike allocations, his finial form has different ears to Freeza, he also lacks the gems on his shoulders and his arms, and legs. Also he's got black pants, and his arms are blue. He also has a different shaped noseKi Breaker wrote:
Frost is having The same transformations and decided to use the same strategies in fight as freeza, of transforming bit by bit..
Not to mention he looks the same as freeza in all his forms except he has boots instead of being barefoot..
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So basically Frost is Walmart Freeza?Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Not an apt caparison, Frost is the beef jerky to Freeza's deep cooked steak, with gravy toppingsDBZAOTA482 wrote:So basically Frost is Walmart Freeza?Kanassa wrote:I think personality-wise, their different methods show their differing personalities. Frieza is an egocentric tyrant, while Frost is simply a greedy pirate. They're both bad people with similar goals of control and power, but how they carry themselves and how they intend to achieve their goals is what makes them different.
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Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .
Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).
Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.
I'm not excited for EOZ.
Vegeta is at his best in Super.
Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .
Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).
Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.
I'm not excited for EOZ.
Vegeta is at his best in Super.
Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
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How and why ?kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .
Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).
Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.
I'm not excited for EOZ.
Vegeta is at his best in Super.
Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
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Idk, exactly how I want it done. Maybe hit could go tiens route and want to be a martial artist instead of an assassin ? I feel like tiens development was rushed and would like a better version of that.Soppa Saia People wrote:How and why ?kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .
Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).
Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.
I'm not excited for EOZ.
Vegeta is at his best in Super.
Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
Them father-son moments <3. He still has a lot of his arrogance, but isnt as much of an asshole and I appreciate that.
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This is really an unpopular opinion, like gosh we had so much of Freeza before that I don't really see the need to have another copy of his playing an active role in the series. Well, I think I would like Frost more if his VA wasn't Ryusei Nakao.Ki Breaker wrote:Frost is a great addition to Dragonball, as freeza couldn't be kept around..
This way we get freeza to be a character that stays and participates in tournaments
Yes, so basically Freeza was a tyrant that ruled through fear and didn't gave a damn about his bad reputation and Frost is just a politician, he poses as a good person just to hide his dark deeds.Doctor. wrote:Freeza would never pretend to be a good guy. Frost fooled everyone into thinking he had good intentions.
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Hit's just a better character than Vegeta, he also bounce's of Goku more so than Vegeta does. Well Vegeta's certainly not at his worst in Dragon ball super.Soppa Saia People wrote:How and why ?kinisking wrote:Not sure if I've said these before but:
SS colors are perfectly fine because they ARE super Saiyan. They just have different ki .
Tien is a better character than krillin ( I like them both ).
Hit should take Vegeta's place as rival.
I'm not excited for EOZ.
Vegeta is at his best in Super.
Kid Trunks has the potential to be a better character than Future Trunks.
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This opinion is extremely unpopular, but I share it with you. Additionally, I found most of the fight with Frieza tedious because it lasted so long .FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
Here's another: long fights can ruin arcs that start out with great potential altogether.
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They can kill momentum, that's for sure. Although I have the exact opposite problem from you two, I found the fight perfectly fine until Goku became a Super Saiyan. After that, everything just drags to absolute hell.floofychan333 wrote:This opinion is extremely unpopular, but I share it with you. Additionally, I found most of the fight with Frieza tedious because it lasted so long .FortuneSSJ wrote:Don't know how much unpopular it is, but Goku vs Freeza is really boring until Goku becomes SSJ. Only from there until the end it's when the fight gets exciting.
Here's another: long fights can ruin arcs that start out with great potential altogether.
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