KaiserNeko wrote:You gotta ignore those people. They only like us more because we're newer and we're different. They're only a small percentage of our fans and we get a lot more poeple talking about how much they either loved the original and look forward to our version, or have gone back and rewatched it because of us. Which, really, is what we want.
Yeah well...I'm kinda on the boat that your Trunks is better than Vales. At least going strictly voice without going into range since that'd take a more in depth comparison. Can't really compare all the different ranges and angles that comes with acting, but from just a voice perspective and ordinary speech, Vale just got waaaaay to raspy sounding.
Though on the topic above, better and subjective come into play. I'm sure the parody will be much funnier, but better is really up to the category I suppose. Better acted I guess you could objectively decide.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
KaiserNeko wrote: Vale just got waaaaay to raspy sounding.
He's one of the very few Funimation actors I actually think sounds worse from the original dub to Kai. I'm sure he has become a much better voice actor, but his voice hasn't. I'm assuming it's due to his role as Sanji, where his voice is reaaaaally raspy, and he just couldn't shake it off for Trunks.
KaiserNeko wrote: Vale just got waaaaay to raspy sounding.
He's one of the very few Funimation actors I actually think sounds worse from the original dub to Kai. I'm sure he has become a much better voice actor, but his voice hasn't. I'm assuming it's due to his role as Sanji, where his voice is reaaaaally raspy, and he just couldn't shake it off for Trunks.
Yeah he's honestly one of the few voice actors who actually got worse. Delivery wise I think he does better, but the voice itself just got worse. One of the few dub voices I can't really enjoy. Kinda ruins Trunks for me. Kinda why Kaiser gives such a refreshing take for me.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I love Vale's Trunks. However it's low on my Trunk's voice list. Nothing compares to Korean Trunks. Not even the original. Understanding it's a parody. Listening to anyone's Trunks besides Korean Trunks is like night and day.
TheGmGoken wrote:I love Vale's Trunks. However it's low on my Trunk's voice list. Nothing compares to Korean Trunks. Not even the original. Understanding it's a parody. Listening to anyone's Trunks besides Korean Trunks is like night and day.
Off topic, but the French Trunks is really awesome, too.
Not to pile too much onto it, but yeah, I'd have to agree that Vale's Trunks is an odd thing. The voice itself was much better back in the original dub (though to be fair, he was closer to the character's age back then too), and while the delivery wasn't bad, it wasn't great yet either. Now though, the delivery is better than it's ever been, but something's happened with the voice. The rasp is just...wow.
Granted, I'm still able to enjoy his performance, and he's probably still my preferred voice for Trunks in English - I just don't know what the heck happened there.
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I really need to catch up on this thing. I stopped maybe two years back, around the start of the Freeza fight. I plan to go to the very beginning, including the movies.
Sinestro wrote:I really need to catch up on this thing. I stopped maybe two years back, around the start of the Freeza fight. I plan to go to the very beginning, including the movies.
Sinestro wrote:I really need to catch up on this thing. I stopped maybe two years back, around the start of the Freeza fight. I plan to go to the very beginning, including the movies.
What are you doing? Go watch everything!
When I can. I have so much to watch and do!
I haven't even watched the dub of Battle of Gods yet. (Just Japanese so far) I'm seriously slacking.
