"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Dbzfan94]

Since when does the Supreme Kai have God Ki?

Since when does he not?? He's a god just like Beerus.

[Kanassa]

Since when does the Supreme Kai have God Ki?

Since Battle Of Gods (movie) retcon that introduced the concept of God Ki.

And where was it shown that he has God Ki?

Since when does the Supreme Kai have God Ki?

Since when does he not?? He's a god just like Beerus.

Kami was a God at one point, so was King Kai. Just because you're called a God, does not mean you have God Ki

[TheUltimateNinja]

I know who's working on 122, but who's doing 123? Unless 123 is also being done by a great staff, i heavily doubt Vegeta will get UI in 123.

We just know the name of 123 but I think he'll get UI in 122 and fight him with it in 123.

I could be wrong but I highly doubt they're going to bring those 2 in and give Vegeta some big thing only to take it away in the same episode so it'll probably continue into 123.

Goku got his big thing taken away in the same episode too.

[sintzu]

Goku got his big thing taken away in the same episode too.

I meant getting knocked out of the ring. If he gets 2 episodes then I'll be more open to him finally leaving as that's a lot of good screen time.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Vegeta probably will get UI in episode 122 not sure what the fandom have a problem with him getting it though probably just the goku fans

[Kanassa]

Vegeta probably will get UI in episode 122 not sure what the fandom have a problem with him getting it though probably just the goku fans

I haven't seen anyone display a problem with him getting the form, merely an doubt he'll get it in this arc, as well as a higher interest in him doing something other than just getting what Goku has.

[BlueVegerot]

Vegeta probably will get UI in episode 122 not sure what the fandom have a problem with him getting it though probably just the goku fans

there is no reason for anyone to get mad at vegeta getting UI. He's trained with whis more than goku has and he is the only other person other than goku who has recieved UI training maybe Toppo or jiren have/had.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

I'm predicting a repeat of Hit where Vegeta spends the entire fight getting completely owned but Goku figures something out watching this.

My god that would be horrible.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Vegeta probably will get UI in episode 122 not sure what the fandom have a problem with him getting it though probably just the goku fans

I haven't seen anyone display a problem with him getting the form, merely an doubt he'll get it in this arc, as well as a higher interest in him doing something other than just getting what Goku has.

I seen people having a problem with it on different sites is what I meant.

[Noah]

Since Battle Of Gods (movie) retcon that introduced the concept of God Ki.

And where was it shown that he has God Ki?

It is assumed he has, Kaioshin are the opposite of Hakaishin, it doesn't make sense for one possesses God Ki and the other not.

[Kanassa]

Since Battle Of Gods (movie) retcon that introduced the concept of God Ki.

And where was it shown that he has God Ki?

It is assumed he has, Kaioshin are the opposite of Hakaishin, it doesn't make sense for one possesses God Ki and the other not.

How does it not? Nothing about how Kaioshins work say that having God Ki should be a requirement.

[BlueBasilisk]

Has anyone mentioned sensing Shin's ki one way or the other? I can't really think of any examples right offhand. Goku locked onto Gohan's ki when warping to the Kai planet, iirc.

[Noah]

How does it not? Nothing about how Kaioshins work say that having God Ki should be a requirement.

As nothing says that they only possesses normal Ki, it's a lame retcon? Sure, but disregarding the original manga, we have to deal it.

Has anyone mentioned sensing Shin's ki one way or the other? I can't really think of any examples right offhand. Goku locked onto Gohan's ki when warping to the Kai planet, iirc.

Also on that subject: I don't believe King Kai has God Ki either, people could say he teleports there by sensing Bubbles, but that doesn't make sense and we could imagine Goku questioning why he can't sense his Ki.

[Kanassa]

How does it not? Nothing about how Kaioshins work say that having God Ki should be a requirement.

As nothing says that they only possesses normal Ki, it's a lame retcon? Sure, but disregarding the original manga, we have to deal it.

Nothing says they possess God Ki, so we shouldn't assume he has God Ki; especially when something like that is probably something they would have specifically mentioned. You can't just call it a retcon.

[Noah]

Nothing says they possess God Ki, so we shouldn't assume he has God Ki; especially when something like that is probably something they would have specifically mentioned. You can't just call it a retcon.

I don't know, do we have any evidences that Piccolo, Goku or the others could sense Shin or Kibitoshin?

[Kanassa]

Nothing says they possess God Ki, so we shouldn't assume he has God Ki; especially when something like that is probably something they would have specifically mentioned. You can't just call it a retcon.

I don't know, do we have any evidences that Piccolo, Goku or the others could sense Shin or Kibitoshin?

The Z Warriors, on every occasions where they could not sense someone's energy, specifically come out and mention that they can't.

[Noah]

The Z Warriors, on every occasions where they could not sense someone's energy, specifically come out and mention that they can't.

But did Piccolo mentioned he could sense Shin or not?

[Michsi]

The Z Warriors, on every occasions where they could not sense someone's energy, specifically come out and mention that they can't.

But did Piccolo mentioned he could sense Shin or not?

I don't believe it was ever specifically stated that he could sense him, but it's heavily implied he was aware that he was dealing with a deity. I think Goku & co. thought Shin and Kibito were simply aliens when they first laid eyes on them, but Piccolo figured out something was off.

[SirTorra]

I have a strong belief that Vegeta is going to give Jiren the best fight that he has ever had. Jiren will have to put in more effort than he did versus goku and Hit. But i don't expect Vegeta to win. Either he would be badly injured after putting up a herculean effort or be eliminated. Either way Vegeta will come out looking way better than before win or lose.

[Kanassa]

Bigger question is: Will Vegeta get rings out after this? Or will he stick around to make a small contribution in the climax like the Cell Arc?