"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[BlueVegerot]

Really not liking the direction of this arc like seriously what the point of keeping dyspo so long if he is gonna get eliminated by u7 once again.I really hope Frieza struggle with Dyspo if not is gonna be boring and it will discredit Hit kinda liked Goku in 104.

I don't understand this. The only reason dyspo gave hit problems was because he had a "tell" on when hit was gonna use time skip and was fast enough to attack right before he could use it. Once hit figured this out, he shitted on dyspo. Freeza doesn't use any techniques, he's all power and golden freeza speed should be enough to take on dyspo speed and power wise they aren't in the same universe

[perucho1990]

Yeah, The only reason Dyspo gave Hit problems was that he had knowledge and prep for Hits tokitobashi.

Idk but looks like Dyspo being a punching bag is part of the outline, Freeza will torture him worse than Jimizu because he looks like Beerus . I would want Beerus to say "Does Freeza really hate me that much"?

[Spider-Man]

I don't understand this. The only reason dyspo gave hit problems was because he had a "tell" on when hit was gonna use time skip and was fast enough to attack right before he could use it. Once hit figured this out, he shitted on dyspo. Freeza doesn't use any techniques, he's all power and golden freeza speed should be enough to take on dyspo speed and power wise they aren't in the same universe

Good point there but why keep dyspo for so long when he gonna be eliminated by a U7 member,he along with Toppo have 0 elimination, really wish U11 was the focus in 120-121, they really need to spice things up.

[VegettoEX]

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[Michsi]

I don't understand this. The only reason dyspo gave hit problems was because he had a "tell" on when hit was gonna use time skip and was fast enough to attack right before he could use it. Once hit figured this out, he shitted on dyspo. Freeza doesn't use any techniques, he's all power and golden freeza speed should be enough to take on dyspo speed and power wise they aren't in the same universe

Good point there but why keep dyspo for so long when he gonna be eliminated by a U7 member,he along with Toppo have 0 elimination, really wish U11 was the focus in 120-121, they really need to spice things up.

My guess is that Dyspo won't manage to put up much of a fight against Freeza, but I would love to see him at least try and pull one over him. I've said this before, I like strategist and fighters that try to outsmart their opponents. If Dyspo will at least attempt to come up with some sort of trick or trap, I'm up for it.

[TheOne]

Goku was the main reason Gohan won that fight, You know that and in the original timeline, Goku beat him so both points are moot. If Vegeta's victory was even close like both of these, you wouldn't call it a vegeta victory.


And for the black arc because Black took Goku's body, not Vegeta's, it was becuase of Goku why Zamaus even went bad and Goku knew Bulma longer than Vegeta did so that point is moot. not to mention Black is kind of an evil Goku and Goku and they didn't even fight once. Not Once.




It was forced especially when you watch the anime and see it actually happen.

Did this guy just say that Goku and Black didn’t fight once? Way to completely make yourself lose all credibility and value to anything that comes through your mouth.

There’s absolutely nothing forced about Vegeta fighting and getting an advantage over Black. Especially when this arc involves his son getting tortured and wife getting murdered. Vegeta lost, trained for x amount of months, and was able to get a leg up on Black.

I’ve seen your posts about Vegeta and Vegeta fans. You just need to accept the fact that you’re biased. You can’t even make accurate assessments.

Name one time Black and Goku fought in the manga. If you can't, then you yourself have lost all credibility.

Like I said before, Black took Goku's body, became a thing because of Goku and killed Goku's best friend. Goku is literally the reason why the future trunks arc even happened and its not forced that Vegeta fights him twice and Goku doesn't? And before you say, no it was because of trunks in the cell saga. Gero to kill Goku.




And yes, I am biased. I'm biased against nonsense.

If you want to discuss the manga, I suggest you go to the manga discussion topic. Should I copy a link for you?

[TheDipDap1234]

He's got to eliminate at least one of the Androids, otherwise they should have just gotten rid of U3 at the end of 120 if they weren't going to have him eliminate anyone.

I bet more fans will turn on 18 if she survives episode 121, and call her "the worst female character along with Ribrianne"

Hating a character just because she got a better treatment than they expected/wanted is pretty dumb if you ask me.

I hope she will survive and get eliminated by U11. I don't think she and 17 will be relevant again after this arc so I want them to stay in as long as possible. If she won't, then whatever. I'm not gonna complain about someone like Gohan outlasting her like how some Piccolo fans do now with 18.

On the other hand, RIP Dyspo. Has he ever won a fight since he appeared? Him and Toppo were very dissapointing to me in this arc, especially the latter since I don't remember him doing anything memorable in this tournament so far besides burning Vegeta.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

A friend of mine wanted me to post this

Reddit is full of brain dead idiots and Kanzenshuu is retard land with VegettoEX being the biggest idiot.

He'd never accept criticism because he's got this god complex going on for creating the "greatest online community known to mankind". He's just a egotistic tyrant with a false boner due to so-called "internet fame.

This is not me saying this all he did is ask me to post it here since I had a account.

I would have assumed this would be a common sense example of something not to do. If your friend does not have an account here, they don't have a voice here either. Especially not in this manner, serving only to disparage other communities and throw out personal attacks.

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RIP Dyspo..

Exactly.

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[perucho1990]

Hating a character just because she got a better treatment than they expected/wanted is pretty dumb if you ask me.

I hope she will survive and get eliminated by U11. I don't think she and 17 will be relevant again after this arc so I want them to stay in as long as possible. If she won't, then whatever. I'm not gonna complain about someone like Gohan outlasting her like how some Piccolo fans do now with 18.

On the other hand, RIP Dyspo. Has he ever won a fight since he appeared? Him and Toppo were very dissapointing to me in this arc, especially the latter since I don't remember him doing anything memorable in this tournament so far besides burning Vegeta.

The ones that got annoyed are the Piccolo fans, because they felt that it was a big insult 18 outlasted Piccolo.

I assume thats the reason we havent seen NamekianSaiyan after episode 119 aired.

Dyspo is going end up with PTSD after Freeza trashes him.

[The gr]

On the other hand, RIP Dyspo. Has he ever won a fight since he appeared? Him and Toppo were very dissapointing to me in this arc, especially the latter since I don't remember him doing anything memorable in this tournament so far besides burning Vegeta.

They could have given U11 the focus in 120-121 like a user mentioned,it annoys me because those two are the only character to have 0 elimination as shown in this poster [spoiler][/spoiler]

[HeroR]

Hating a character just because she got a better treatment than they expected/wanted is pretty dumb if you ask me.

I hope she will survive and get eliminated by U11. I don't think she and 17 will be relevant again after this arc so I want them to stay in as long as possible. If she won't, then whatever. I'm not gonna complain about someone like Gohan outlasting her like how some Piccolo fans do now with 18.

On the other hand, RIP Dyspo. Has he ever won a fight since he appeared? Him and Toppo were very dissapointing to me in this arc, especially the latter since I don't remember him doing anything memorable in this tournament so far besides burning Vegeta.

Fans of certain Dragon Ball characters can be extremely bitter bunch. Like some Piccolo fans now hate 18 for outlasting Piccolo and the hatred for Rib reached new levels of dumb after she outlasted several fan-favorites.

Toppo nearly crushed Vegeta, that was fun.

[Nickolaidas]

I Never Got WHY it was so important to some that Ribrianne had to go or why it was celebrated so much she needed to go?!

It was probably celebrated by people who thought that Ribrianne's erasure was detrimental to their enjoyment of the show. Because they probably disliked her as a character (or as a design, or as something else). Surely your love for the character doesn't blind you to the fact that some people went to the opposite extreme that you went?

One man's treasure is another man's garbage. Simple as that.

No I never try to blind myself to the realities or let fandom ever do that to myself~~~I just question the logic behind it all.

I have seen massive detailed reasoning as to why fans dislike certain characters and good debates about them. However, what they had in comm mon was they always were in the context of the story/development in the end, it was with the characters immoral and questionable actions, their sins if you will.

So again it was never the dislike that got me, just to levels of it and how far and personal people took it over very very small and personal preference things about her character.

I learned long ago when dislike for any character or medium got to such levels, then that is when I would turn it off and remember to focus such emotions on real problems in life.

It is the levels of the reaction compared to what one is reacting too and with that measuring its worth.

A good debate? How about the fact that she goes LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE all the time? Imagine Vegeta calling to his Saiyan pride on each sentence of his. Each damn sentence. Or Cell talking about being perfect. Or Frieza claiming he's the strongest in the universe ON EVERY. DAMN. SENTENCE. There's a reason most of the hatred Broly gets is due to the fact that he just yells Kakarot all the time. You know why Arnold was hated for his portrayal of Mr Freeze? It wasn't only for not acting like his comic book persona, it was because he acted like a character from Iznogood - constantly making freezing puns and jokes. Continuous. Repetition. Sucks. It's one thing to have a gimmick, but constantly using that card turns the character into a caricature. Dragonball needs more female characters, especially combat-capable, but they need to be likable.

I'm willing to bet the reason you like Ribrianne has nothing to do with her personality, but rather with the fact that she's a Magical Girl in the DB mythos. If Ribrianne was more like Sailor Moon or Sailor Mars, I'm pretty sure you'd be even more ecstatic. At this point you're cheering for Ribrianne not because she's a good character (she's not, at least she's not handled as one so far), but because she's the only choice you've got in terms of Magical Girls in DB. In the realm of the blind, the one-eyed is king, so to speak.

What I'm trying to tell you is that people strongly and vocally disliking (or even hating) Ribrianne makes as much sense as say, you adoring her and acting as her Public Relations representative, constantly thanking other posters for giving their two cents on the character or mentioning her in any way. I'm not telling you not to like the character; of course you have every right to. And I realize that negativity sucks, even more so when it is targeted towards something you like. But in the end you're just as extreme as Ribrianne's haters are. You're just on the opposite spectrum.

[Lapislettuce]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

[Nickolaidas]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

Well, if Vegeta's best moment in the ToP isn't him going after Jiren, I don't know WHAT is.

[Lapislettuce]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

Well, if Vegeta's best moment in the ToP isn't him going after Jiren, I don't know WHAT is.

He said he was done writing a cool Vegeta so i assume it's something small that Toshio wrote. Jiren's episode isn't written by Toshio.

[Nickolaidas]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

Well, if Vegeta's best moment in the ToP isn't him going after Jiren, I don't know WHAT is.

He said he was done writing a cool Vegeta so i assume it's something small that Toshio wrote. Jiren's episode isn't written by Toshio.

Hmm ... maybe both Vegeta and #17 do something cool against the fused robo-android-whatchamacallit?

[Swifticuffs]

It was probably celebrated by people who thought that Ribrianne's erasure was detrimental to their enjoyment of the show. Because they probably disliked her as a character (or as a design, or as something else). Surely your love for the character doesn't blind you to the fact that some people went to the opposite extreme that you went?

One man's treasure is another man's garbage. Simple as that.

No I never try to blind myself to the realities or let fandom ever do that to myself~~~I just question the logic behind it all.

I have seen massive detailed reasoning as to why fans dislike certain characters and good debates about them. However, what they had in comm mon was they always were in the context of the story/development in the end, it was with the characters immoral and questionable actions, their sins if you will.

So again it was never the dislike that got me, just to levels of it and how far and personal people took it over very very small and personal preference things about her character.

I learned long ago when dislike for any character or medium got to such levels, then that is when I would turn it off and remember to focus such emotions on real problems in life.

It is the levels of the reaction compared to what one is reacting too and with that measuring its worth.

A good debate? How about the fact that she goes LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE all the time? Imagine Vegeta calling to his Saiyan pride on each sentence of his. Each damn sentence. Or Cell talking about being perfect. Or Frieza claiming he's the strongest in the universe ON EVERY. DAMN. SENTENCE. There's a reason most of the hatred Broly gets is due to the fact that he just yells Kakarot all the time. You know why Arnold was hated for his portrayal of Mr Freeze? It wasn't only for not acting like his comic book persona, it was because he acted like a character from Iznogood - constantly making freezing puns and jokes. Continuous. Repetition. Sucks. It's one thing to have a gimmick, but constantly using that card turns the character into a caricature. Dragonball needs more female characters, especially combat-capable, but they need to be likable.

I'm willing to bet the reason you like Ribrianne has nothing to do with her personality, but rather with the fact that she's a Magical Girl in the DB mythos. If Ribrianne was more like Sailor Moon or Sailor Mars, I'm pretty sure you'd be even more ecstatic. At this point you're cheering for Ribrianne not because she's a good character (she's not, at least she's not handled as one so far), but because she's the only choice you've got in terms of Magical Girls in DB. In the realm of the blind, the one-eyed is king, so to speak.

What I'm trying to tell you is that people strongly and vocally disliking (or even hating) Ribrianne makes as much sense as say, you adoring her and acting as her Public Relations representative, constantly thanking other posters for giving their two cents on the character or mentioning her in any way. I'm not telling you not to like the character; of course you have every right to. And I realize that negativity sucks, even more so when it is targeted towards something you like. But in the end you're just as extreme as Ribrianne's haters are. You're just on the opposite spectrum.

Bravo for this post, holy hell. CJStriker isn't mean, so I certainly don't want to start this into a flame war, but I fail to see how he/she does not understand how aggravating the posts he/she makes can be. Ribrianne isn't the second coming of christ and you're not her PR/hype man as if you're a WWE wrestling manager. Ribrianne is very polarizing in the DB community not because it's a female, but because the writers terribly portrayed her and every 2 words out of her mouth was "love love love". It's cute for 5 minutes, then it becomes stale. She had tons of promise and was portrayed awfully and the majority of fans agree with this stance, no matter how hard you try to convince them otherwise.

If you disagree, this show may not be for you.

[perucho1990]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

Either his cool moment was owning Katopelsa or he will somehow be the one that eliminates Aniraza.

[VegettoEX]

If you disagree, this show may not be for you.

If I disagree, meaning I did in fact like something specific about the show, the show may not be for me...?

I think y'all might want to re-examine what it is you're looking to get out of your conversations here. You don't get to dictate each and every personal fandom. You're always entitled to your own opinion on the show and to express that opinion, buuuuuuuuuuut...

Real-talk: stop attacking people, stop being so antagonistic, and stop posting things that are embarrassing for yourself/ves and for the greater community reading these posts. Aspire to something more.

[Simere]

Can you people help me figure something out ? so Toshio said he was going to write a cool 17 in the start of august then he said in the same month that he finished writing a cool vegeta. i think he was done with Vegeta's thing but was still writing 17's thing so Vegeta being cool might be next episode ?

The "cool Vegeta" tweet came at the beginning of September.