"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

The only reason why we don't see NamekianSaiyan is because he got temporarily banned for being mad about piccolo being eliminated which is not a good reason at all for him being banned.

NamekianSaiyan wasn't just mad about Piccolo, he was an asshole about it, which isn't good behavior.

Outside of only one piccolo fan that you and I know, I don't think 18 has gotten a lot of hate because piccolo got eliminated.

I'm one of the biggest Piccolo fans here, I have the biggest Piccolo page on FB, and I for one wouldn't let his elimination make me so bitter to the point that I dislike other characters.

I'm still actively watching the show, perhaps not in the same enthusiasm but still watching and participating in the fandom. I don't watch the show only for a specific character. I loved the trunks arc we just had and Piccolo was barely in it.

Outside of the one piccolo fan we know I haven't seen other people who are fans of Big Green hate on 18 or someone else, and I browse these forums a lot even though I don't always post.

That is more than fair. I am glad that people can loved a character, but also still enjoy the show when their character isn't in it. The Piccolo fans who hate 18 is a small, but very vocal. But I should have said 'a small number' instead of using a broad term.

[Kenneth La Torre]

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The only reason why we don't see NamekianSaiyan is because he got temporarily banned for being mad about piccolo being eliminated which is not a good reason at all for him being banned.

NamekianSaiyan wasn't just mad about Piccolo, he was an asshole about it, which isn't good behavior.

But isnt a good chunk of people here kinda assholes? Just get a look at a couple of threads, people are assholes towards each other half the time. Not saying a ban wasnt neceasary, but a warning by a moderator would have been nice (assuming a moderator didnt warn him before the ban).

[HeroR]

But isnt a good chunk of people here kinda assholes? Just get a look at a couple of threads, people are assholes towards each other half the time. Not saying a ban wasnt neceasary, but a warning by a moderator would have been nice (assuming a moderator didnt warn him before the ban).

What usually happens here, to my knowledge, is that you get account strikes if you're reported. Keep doing it and you get a temp ban. From what I have seen, it's really hard here to get ban forever unless you're an outright troll.

[CJStriker_CBR]

I didn’t mind ribrianne that much,I was looking forward to her.But,then she along with U2 was converted into a complete joke character.

Now,I don’t have anything against gag characters but a character should be more than just a joke.Ribrianne took a lot of screen time and added nothing to the larger plot.If you ask me,a beautiful girl converted into a fat telebub was enough of a joke after that they should’ve went with a traditional magical girl.

They went for a precure deconstruction which is a lot like dbz,we never had a battlemage character and a slight more focus on hax instead of heart shaped like blast and transformations would at least result in better fights.They should also have toned down the love.They didn’t do any from above but at the end of the day,she is one of few characters with character development

That is a good post Hawk9211, while I think the Gags are parts that stand out I feel by what I was watching Toei intents more for Brianne then just simplely humor. Like I have said, episodes 118 was more of a Gem in the Super series then we can start to realize, mostly for Brianne and U2. IMO while the jokes are a decent part of Brianne I feel allot of DB is like that in the end and never felt it was out of place in Brianne's case. What 118 did was take Brianne full circle to the next level.

It was only a theory how much they where Loved and Respect in their U2, but when they showed Brianne was No-Less then a GODDESS to their Universe and to their People, theire Champion of Champions, that IMO brought her out of her speculative shell and gave Great Weight to the Importance of her character and even reasons why she had the positive persona that she did. She was trying to stand firm and positive so her Universe's People would stay positive and hopeful, a Grand Importance towards the power they needed to win the ToP and to keep their Universe the Happy place they love.

So I think after episode 118, the ideal and wondering if Brianne was just a "Gag" character go completely shot-out the window!

[CriticalThinker]

I'll be honest the real reason why I'm excited for episode 121 and onwards is because Toppo finally gets to do something. For almost the entire damn tournament he's done pretty much nothing but stand around and act as Jiren's hype man. Sure he fought some fodder early on and later Vegeta but that just came off as padding for those episodes since they didn't amount to anything. I mean the most memorable thing he's done so far is burn Vegeta and that's it. With U3 being out soon he doesn't have a reason to stand around and do nothing anymore. Sorry if this comes off as rantish but I'm just annoyed at how they've used him thus far in the tournament. Hopefully when Toppo time comes he gets a good fight and maybe even an elimination and doesn't get taken out like a scrub.

[Big Chief]

I'll be honest the real reason why I'm excited for episode 121 and onwards is because Toppo finally gets to do something. For almost the entire damn tournament he's done pretty much nothing but stand around and act as Jiren's hype man. Sure he fought some fodder early on and later Vegeta but that just came off as padding for those episodes since they didn't amount to anything. I mean the most memorable thing he's done so far is burn Vegeta and that's it. With U3 being out soon he doesn't have a reason to stand around and do nothing anymore. Sorry if this comes off as rantish but I'm just annoyed at how they've used him thus far in the tournament. Hopefully when Toppo time comes he gets a good fight and maybe even an elimination and doesn't get taken out like a scrub.

If 17 survives the battle with Aniraza, I feel he might be eliminated by Toppo.

[Torturephile]

Today, I had an odd dream about Vegeta vs. Jiren. Somehow, Vegeta was able to fight evenly with Jiren as a SSJ, and Jiren showed some personality by smiling and praising Vegeta.

You know if that actually happened we could imagine the meltdown of people here claiming that SSJ Vegeta > KKx20 + SSJB Goku, that Super power levels are bullsh** (when it's not the first time they stop making sense) and the Strength Discussion Thread would explode. Quite amusing actually.

Not only that thread, but the entire internet as well. I actually would like to see that happening.

[CriticalThinker]

I'll be honest the real reason why I'm excited for episode 121 and onwards is because Toppo finally gets to do something. For almost the entire damn tournament he's done pretty much nothing but stand around and act as Jiren's hype man. Sure he fought some fodder early on and later Vegeta but that just came off as padding for those episodes since they didn't amount to anything. I mean the most memorable thing he's done so far is burn Vegeta and that's it. With U3 being out soon he doesn't have a reason to stand around and do nothing anymore. Sorry if this comes off as rantish but I'm just annoyed at how they've used him thus far in the tournament. Hopefully when Toppo time comes he gets a good fight and maybe even an elimination and doesn't get taken out like a scrub.

If 17 survives the battle with Aniraza, I feel he might be eliminated by Toppo.

This would be the best case scenario and a part of the reason why I hope 17 survives 121. I like 17 and all but Toppo doesn't have a single elimination under his belt and is in serious need of one. Also I would prefer to see 17 vs Toppo than Gohan vs Toppo since I can't see Toppo knocking out Gohan. Not because of Gohan being stronger than Toppo but because of the plot.

[omaro34]

Not surprised about the new film coming a year from now. I don't know the specifics on how the animators work, but I hope since this movie is in production it wouldn't affect the quality of Super. Can someone let me know if it's a legitimate concern or not? I'm no expert in this matter.

As long as the next arc isn't as action packed as the ToP and they plan it well enough there shouldn't be a noticeable drop in quality for the show, though we could lose a few regulars here and there for a bit and we might go without people like Shida and Otsuka for awhile again.

Thank you for replying and clarifying.

[Artorias]

So it really seems to me like we're setting up for a 3 v 1 fight against Jiren with Freeza, Goku, and Gohan. I can't imagine Dyspo giving Freeza any real trouble, and I'm assuming we'll get a Toppo v Gohan, which could go either way, although I just get the vibe that Gohan's around to stay to the end with the way they've been building him up. And Goku is a given. Vegeta somehow not losing to Jiren will be contrived nonsense, even with UI, so I'm pretty sure he's gone after 123 at the latest.

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda annoying that they're YET AGAIN likely going to use him as the hype man for the villain, because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku. GOKU was actually the jobber this time. We don't need another instance of Jiren showing off by beating one of our strong guys. Would've much preferred Vegeta to stick around and work with Goku, Gohan, or even Freeza. Obviously that could still happen, but that seems very unlikely at this point. Sorry Vegeta fans, but I think ya boi is done.

[Noah]

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda pleasant that they're going to use him to BEAT the main antagonist, even because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku.

Fixed for ya.

[Artorias]

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda pleasant that they're going to use him to BEAT the main antagonist, even because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku.

Vegeta will die

Fixed

[HeroR]

So it really seems to me like we're setting up for a 3 v 1 fight against Jiren with Freeza, Goku, and Gohan. I can't imagine Dyspo giving Freeza any real trouble, and I'm assuming we'll get a Toppo v Gohan, which could go either way, although I just get the vibe that Gohan's around to stay to the end with the way they've been building him up. And Goku is a given. Vegeta somehow not losing to Jiren will be contrived nonsense, even with UI, so I'm pretty sure he's gone after 123 at the latest.

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda annoying that they're YET AGAIN likely going to use him as the hype man for the villain, because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku. GOKU was actually the jobber this time. We don't need another instance of Jiren showing off by beating one of our strong guys. Would've much preferred Vegeta to stick around and work with Goku, Gohan, or even Freeza. Obviously that could still happen, but that seems very unlikely at this point. Sorry Vegeta fans, but I think ya boi is done.

Given what we have seen of Toppo, Gohan would get stomped unless he pulls something. Toppo's closest match would be Freeza or Vegeta.

[Artorias]

So it really seems to me like we're setting up for a 3 v 1 fight against Jiren with Freeza, Goku, and Gohan. I can't imagine Dyspo giving Freeza any real trouble, and I'm assuming we'll get a Toppo v Gohan, which could go either way, although I just get the vibe that Gohan's around to stay to the end with the way they've been building him up. And Goku is a given. Vegeta somehow not losing to Jiren will be contrived nonsense, even with UI, so I'm pretty sure he's gone after 123 at the latest.

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda annoying that they're YET AGAIN likely going to use him as the hype man for the villain, because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku. GOKU was actually the jobber this time. We don't need another instance of Jiren showing off by beating one of our strong guys. Would've much preferred Vegeta to stick around and work with Goku, Gohan, or even Freeza. Obviously that could still happen, but that seems very unlikely at this point. Sorry Vegeta fans, but I think ya boi is done.

Given what we have seen of Toppo, Gohan would get stomped unless he pulls something. Toppo's closest match would be Freeza or Vegeta.

But Gohan has the power of contrived power ups on his side, so I never really count him out. His power in this arc seems entirely random and could be feasably whatever the writers need it to be to fit the situation. The combination of the "power of rage" and his nebulous, undefined ultimate form creates a nice cop out that I could see the writers using to justify him doing anything short of wrecking Jiren.

[Kaiosama]

Vegeta should stand no chance against Jiren and shouldn't perform even close to what Hit and Goku did against him, but the writers will make it happen and probably give him UI to sell more merchandise and toys :/

[HeroR]

But Gohan has the power of contrived power ups on his side, so I never really count him out. His power in this arc seems entirely random and could be feasably whatever the writers need it to be to fit the situation. The combination of the "power of rage" and his nebulous, undefined ultimate form creates a nice cop out that I could see the writers using to justify him doing anything short of wrecking Jiren.

Gohan only had one 'contrived power-up' and it was only enough to get him around 17's level. His power isn't even random since we know he's closed to Goku's Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, but is noticeably weaker.

Honestly, most of what you wrote only applied to Z, not Super.

Vegeta should stand no chance against Jiren and shouldn't perform even close to what Hit and Goku did against him, but the writers will make it happen and probably give him UI to sell more merchandise and toys :/

I doubt he will get UI since we would have gotten spoilers about it by now like they did for UI Goku or even Kefla appearing. Despite what some think, Super isn't entirely based on toys, otherwise everyone would have Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan by now. Heck, they didn't even give Kefla Super Saiyan 3 despite many fans saying that Super was foreshadowing it.

[darzap]

Vegeta should stand no chance against Jiren and shouldn't perform even close to what Hit and Goku did against him, but the writers will make it happen and probably give him UI to sell more merchandise and toys :/

And this is based on what exactly? I can't see a single reason that makes it implausible for Vegeta to achieve some powerup, like goku iwth UI.

[Kaiosama]

Vegeta should stand no chance against Jiren and shouldn't perform even close to what Hit and Goku did against him, but the writers will make it happen and probably give him UI to sell more merchandise and toys :/

And this is based on what exactly? I can't see a single reason that makes it implausible for Vegeta to achieve some powerup, like goku iwth UI.

It's bad writing to give it to him so soon. The narrative has clearly been pushing towards a Goku vs Jiren rematch. Giving Vegeta UI takes away from Goku, and this arc has been putting Goku in the spotlight. It completely contradicts all the hype they built for UI Goku. Why should Vegeta be allowed to get it so soon when he struggles more than Goku at overthinking while fighting?

[Artorias]

But Gohan has the power of contrived power ups on his side, so I never really count him out. His power in this arc seems entirely random and could be feasably whatever the writers need it to be to fit the situation. The combination of the "power of rage" and his nebulous, undefined ultimate form creates a nice cop out that I could see the writers using to justify him doing anything short of wrecking Jiren.

Gohan only had one 'contrived power-up' and it was only enough to get him around 17's level. His power isn't even random since we know he's closed to Goku's Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, but is noticeably weaker.

Honestly, most of what you wrote only applied to Z, not Super.

I think what I'm saying applies to both Z and this arc of Super. His power in this particular arc is the most contrived and sporadic it's ever been. I could easily see a situation where he needs to power up in some way coming up, "master" ultimate form or whatever, if you will, and then boom. It's on with Toppo.

Or maybe this is just wishful thinking. I just believe that narratively, Gohan is being built up to either win or come VERY close. Maybe he doesn't actually fight Toppo at all and instead teams up with Goku or Freeza.

[JazzMazz]

So it really seems to me like we're setting up for a 3 v 1 fight against Jiren with Freeza, Goku, and Gohan. I can't imagine Dyspo giving Freeza any real trouble, and I'm assuming we'll get a Toppo v Gohan, which could go either way, although I just get the vibe that Gohan's around to stay to the end with the way they've been building him up. And Goku is a given. Vegeta somehow not losing to Jiren will be contrived nonsense, even with UI, so I'm pretty sure he's gone after 123 at the latest.

I'm not even that much of a Vegeta fan, but it is kinda annoying that they're YET AGAIN likely going to use him as the hype man for the villain, because Jiren ALREADY fought and beat Goku. GOKU was actually the jobber this time. We don't need another instance of Jiren showing off by beating one of our strong guys. Would've much preferred Vegeta to stick around and work with Goku, Gohan, or even Freeza. Obviously that could still happen, but that seems very unlikely at this point. Sorry Vegeta fans, but I think ya boi is done.

Given what we have seen of Toppo, Gohan would get stomped unless he pulls something. Toppo's closest match would be Freeza or Vegeta.

But Gohan has the power of contrived power ups on his side, so I never really count him out. His power in this arc seems entirely random and could be feasably whatever the writers need it to be to fit the situation. The combination of the "power of rage" and his nebulous, undefined ultimate form creates a nice cop out that I could see the writers using to justify him doing anything short of wrecking Jiren.

First off, whose to say Gohan isn't being helped by Goku? Since he isn't fighting Jiren and Dyspo is probably going to be multilated by Freeza, what the hell do people think Goku is going to be doing?

As for Vegeta "Jobbing", I'm fine with the idea of Vegeta jobbing, however, I feel like he hasn't had any major victories in this arc that have really neccesitated his position as being really dangerous. Also, I think they've given Jiren too many people to "job" against. They had a good 3 episode of literally nothing but Jiren curbstomping formidable opponents in the context of the series into the ground, I really hope they don't use this simply to build up Jiren more? At the very least, I expect Vegeta fight against Jiren to be a spectacle and at best to provide an opportunity to reflect on Vegeta's character. The worst thing that could possibly happen is Vegeta wins or obtains UI, or both.