"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

He trained in the time chamber for literally an hour in preparation for the tournament, so his Blue form shouldn't be much stronger than Goku's.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

Their blues are definitely around the same power. This looks like the whole rage thing again, which ia gonna play out the same. Smoke clears, jirens fine.

[kinisking]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

Their blues are definitely around the same power. This looks like the whole rage thing again, which ia gonna play out the same. Smoke clears, jirens fine.

No , definitely not. In the Black arc Vegeta was able to surpass Goku black in strength after the HTC training which is something neither Goku or him could do before. Then he went in for some more before the tournament.

[Zamasu55]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

I don't know if you can remember, but Goku has a little thingy called Kaiohken which makes him at least 15x stronger than Vegeta. Jiren beat that with a glare.
And it's not only the kick, Jiren's clearly surprised by his Final Flash. How?

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

Their blues are definitely around the same power. This looks like the whole rage thing again, which ia gonna play out the same. Smoke clears, jirens fine.

First Rageta, now this. I'm starting to think that the writers forgot that Gohan was the one who got the massive rage boosts.

[perucho1990]

That Nep makes me want for Vegeta to win the whole thing and then get an arc for himself in 2018.

[Lord Frieza]

Lets not forget that even the previews can be a bit misleading at times and show us almost nothing of how events truly play out.

It looked like #17 might have been out of the ring in last weeks preview but he's safe and sound. So lets not get too heated until we know the whole story.

[darzap]

I really hope they give a good explanation for the Jiren vs. Vegeta power scaling. I don't mind Vegeta getting a boost at all, but please do mention that he gets a boost. Alternatively, they can introduce a flaw in Jiren, like saying that he can only operate at full power for a limited time or that he has to gather strength in advance by meditating and has to budget that for the tournament (which would be a very cheap way to make the defeat of Jiren a team effort and finish it with a 1v1 with Goku at the same time).

I also hope that the Vegeta vs. Jiren match has a point and an impact. If this is just a rage boosted Vegeta trading a few blows and ending it with a real big final flash, that would be disappointingly unimaginative. Jiren taking a full-power, rageboosted Final Flash and pushing it back unscathed could be a Jiren pushing back the Genkidama-moment, though, so I really hope this is not the end but the mid-way cliff hanger.

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Lets not forget that even the previews can be a bit misleading at times and show us almost nothing of how events truly play out.

It looked like #17 might have been out of the ring in last weeks preview but he's safe and sound. So lets not get too heated until we know the whole story.

I really hope that the NEP is being misleading, but I'm pretty sure that they're just gonna ignore power scaling just to make Vegeta look good before he's eliminated.

If SSB Goku also lands some good hits on Jiren, then we can basically just dismiss any power scaling and feats in this episode.

[Sandubadear]

Lmao this guy

Why does he use electronic beeps if there's a guy inside? I think his name is "Mule".

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Rather fitting name since the name is derived from the drink "Mosco Mule".

Obviously the pun was intended.

[Kenneth La Torre]

No reason to ignore feats and concider it an outlier. Jiren is still far from full power.

[Freeza9000]

Jiren is strugging against SsjB Vegeta. Some episodes ago, he took out a 20x stronger version with a glare.

Nice one, Toei.

And I know it's a preview, but you can clearly see Jiren's struggle, so that's it, they're fucking this up.

Vegeta has gone through training that Goku hasn't in the time chamber so their blues aren't equal. Also one surprise hit doesn't mean it's struggle.

I don't know if you can remember, but Goku has a little thingy called Kaiohken which makes him at least 15x stronger than Vegeta. Jiren beat that with a glare.
And it's not only the kick, Jiren's clearly surprised by his Final Flash. How?

And let's not forget SSJB Goku BEFORE KAIOKEN actually managed to push Jiren through several rocks before swapping hands with him and putting up a relatively good fight. Jiren also had to dodge a SSJB KAMEHAMEHA!!!!!!!

[Lord Frieza]

No reason to ignore feats and concider it an outlier. Jiren is still far from full power.

Its probably going to be like Beeurs. "I was not even using 10% of my full power till now".

[Lord Beerus]

Lmao this guy

Why does he use electronic beeps if there's a guy inside? I think his name is "Mule".
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I fucking LOVED that twist. It's classic Toriyama.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Lmao this guy

Why does he use electronic beeps if there's a guy inside? I think his name is "Mule".
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I fucking LOVED that twist. It's classic Toriyama.

Feels like a Twist Homage to ALL Mecha-Suit Animes and allittle Men in Black and Gremlins References in one, LOL!

The factor that the Ultimate Warrior, the GoD of U3 would be a Mecha-Pilot in the Ultimate Mecha-Suit is just to Perfect of a Twist for U3!

[BlueBasilisk]

And let's not forget SSJB Goku BEFORE KAIOKEN actually managed to push Jiren through several rocks before swapping hands with him and putting up a relatively good fight. Jiren also had to dodge a SSJB KAMEHAMEHA!!!!!!!

Hit also punched him like halfway across the arena with that shot to the chest.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Oh really? Are you already starting with hasty conclusions?

We do not know why Vegeta will be able to hit Jiren, whether it's going to be rage or some other UP in his power.

The point is that this is his first highlight fight in the tournament, so the least we can hope for is something decent, and Vegeta will not be defeated in a few minutes as some haters want

[Lord Frieza]

For what was described as an "Old Robot", Mosco mus be one of the most powerful mechs ever built!!!

[Zamasu55]

Lets not forget that even the previews can be a bit misleading at times and show us almost nothing of how events truly play out.

It looked like #17 might have been out of the ring in last weeks preview but he's safe and sound. So lets not get too heated until we know the whole story.

Well, he actually fell off, but was saved at the end.

And Jiren getting hit in the guts and being surprised by a Final Flash is certainly happening and can't be a mislead.

[Lord Frieza]

Lets not forget that even the previews can be a bit misleading at times and show us almost nothing of how events truly play out.

It looked like #17 might have been out of the ring in last weeks preview but he's safe and sound. So lets not get too heated until we know the whole story.

Well, he actually fell off, but was saved at the end.

And Jiren getting hit in the guts and being surprised by a Final Flash is certainly happening and can't be a mislead.

Yes but the preview show #17 falling among red crystals. But we are both right, it's not misleading in that regard but we cannot jump to conclusions on such little info.