Mercenary wrote:Vegeta is the GOAT. He still stands and is ready to fight!
Professor Freeza wrote:MAN VEGETA LOOKS GOOD. Doesnt seem he's down and out at all.
Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that. Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.Hawk9211 wrote:Vegeta is better than expected.
sintzu wrote:Art wise this look like it's going to be an amazing episode which is expected based on who's working on it.
Vegeta thankfully isn't broken as I thought he'd be.
Mercenary wrote:Vegeta is the GOAT. He still stands and is ready to fight!Professor Freeza wrote:MAN VEGETA LOOKS GOOD. Doesnt seem he's down and out at all.Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that. Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.Hawk9211 wrote:Vegeta is better than expected.
sintzu wrote:Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that.
It's kinda sad, but I'm starting to get flashbacks to when people were constantly going "Out in x weeks" about Caulifla. I think those predictions ended up being wrong five times before Kefla happened.sintzu wrote:Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.
While we should never put too much stock into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff, I'm starting to feel like the card with UI Goku in front and Blue Vegeta right behind him just might end up being accurate. (Best screenshot I could get)Professor Freeza wrote:If Vegeta doesn't get eliminated by mid February, I'm thinking he and Goku will eliminate jiren together. Fused or otherwise.
TheOne wrote:I’m just allergic to stupid crap and people making bs statements. You haven’t even watched the episode and you’re already having a smug attitude about the conclusion
TheUltimateNinja wrote:There's purists who think only the original 42 volumes count and mistakenly believe their headcanon is official.
TheSaiyanGod wrote:Oh, so the Goku fanboys are SO desperate because they do not want Vegeta to be any stronger than the Blue KK x20 (so they go into this state of denial).
IndieBooToo wrote:Vegeta fanboys just won't let the NEP go and fail to realize that it could be misleading.
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No fusion,thanks.It is a deus ex machina that should be written out of story,preferably forever.Professor Freeza wrote:sintzu wrote:Art wise this look like it's going to be an amazing episode which is expected based on who's working on it.
Vegeta thankfully isn't broken as I thought he'd be.
Mercenary wrote:Vegeta is the GOAT. He still stands and is ready to fight!Professor Freeza wrote:MAN VEGETA LOOKS GOOD. Doesnt seem he's down and out at all.Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that. Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.Hawk9211 wrote:Vegeta is better than expected.
If Vegeta doesn't get eliminated by mid February, I'm thinking he and Goku will eliminate jiren together. Fused or otherwise.
I think there's a 40% chance that could happen while the other 60% is Vegeta taking a hit for Goku and getting knocked out instead, giving Goku the edge he needs to win. Either way, Vegeta is getting major shine in these next few episodes and I couldn't be happier.Alruneia wrote:While we should never put too much stock into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff, I'm starting to feel like the card with UI Goku in front and Blue Vegeta right behind him just might end up being accurate. (Best screenshot I could get)
Remembering that the title of episode 123 is '' Full Body, Spirit, and Power unleashed! Goku and Vegeta! ''sintzu wrote:I think there's a 40% chance that could happen while the other 60% is Vegeta taking a hit for Goku and getting knocked out instead, giving Goku the edge he needs to win. Either way, Vegeta is getting major shine in these next few episodes and I couldn't be happier.Alruneia wrote:While we should never put too much stock into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff, I'm starting to feel like the card with UI Goku in front and Blue Vegeta right behind him just might end up being accurate. (Best screenshot I could get)
Goku didn't do much against Jiren alone so Vegeta helping makes sense as it can only help their none existing odds at defeating him.TheSaiyanGod wrote:It's possible that the two fight together and something similar to this DBH card happens
Ya i believe this would happen.Alruneia wrote:sintzu wrote:Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that.
I think most (reasonable) Vegeta fans will be happy about how this is going to play out, considering that he's not going to be eliminated (yet, anyway).
It's kinda sad, but I'm starting to get flashbacks to when people were constantly going "Out in x weeks" about Caulifla. I think those predictions ended up being wrong five times before Kefla happened.sintzu wrote:Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.
While we should never put too much stock into Dragon Ball Heroes stuff, I'm starting to feel like the card with UI Goku in front and Blue Vegeta right behind him just might end up being accurate. (Best screenshot I could get)Professor Freeza wrote:If Vegeta doesn't get eliminated by mid February, I'm thinking he and Goku will eliminate jiren together. Fused or otherwise.
Hawk9211 wrote:No fusion,thanks.It is a deus ex machina that should be written out of story,preferably forever.Professor Freeza wrote:sintzu wrote:Art wise this look like it's going to be an amazing episode which is expected based on who's working on it.
Vegeta thankfully isn't broken as I thought he'd be.
Vegeta was expected to be a stain under Jiren's boot so anything is better than that. Now watch his naysayers go on about how he'll be that next time, never mind this'll be the 2nd or 3rd time they're wrong.
If Vegeta doesn't get eliminated by mid February, I'm thinking he and Goku will eliminate jiren together. Fused or otherwise.
There are 4-5 types of fusion, the first of which has been used in the Namek Saga (before we've seen the first Super Saiyan) and all but one of them have already been used in/for the ToP. How is it that a deus ex machina?Hawk9211 wrote:No fusion,thanks.It is a deus ex machina that should be written out of story,preferably forever.
Whis has really been nagging at Goku and Vegeta to work together in their training. It would be nice to see all of his lessons come to a head here. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like Goku and Vegeta are starting to outgrow Whis and Beerus as mentors. Well...Whis mostly. Beerus hasn't contributed much.sintzu wrote: Goku didn't do much against Jiren alone so Vegeta helping makes sense as it can only help their none existing odds at defeating him.
I agree but I think they have an arc or to go before they completely outgrow them as there's probably a thing or 2 they can still learn.BlueBasilisk wrote:It feels like Goku and Vegeta are starting to outgrow Whis and Beerus as mentors. Well...Whis mostly. Beerus hasn't contributed much.
Oh I'm sure there's plenty more for them to learn if Whis is willing to teach it. Roshi is still teaching Goku stuff and Goku graduated from that class 30-odd years ago.sintzu wrote:I agree but I think they have an arc or to go before they completely outgrow them as there's probably a thing or 2 they can still learn.BlueBasilisk wrote:It feels like Goku and Vegeta are starting to outgrow Whis and Beerus as mentors. Well...Whis mostly. Beerus hasn't contributed much.
It causes unnecessary power creep and plot holes(like why don't they fuse?)darzap wrote:There are 4-5 types of fusion, the first of which has been used in the Namek Saga (before we've seen the first Super Saiyan) and all but one of them have already been used in/for the ToP. How is it that a deus ex machina?Hawk9211 wrote:No fusion,thanks.It is a deus ex machina that should be written out of story,preferably forever.
Fusion might be a deus ex machina towards others, but against jiren, fusion is just a simple power increase. You are talking about someone who is stronger than one of the top tier gods of destruction.Hawk9211 wrote:It causes unnecessary power creep and plot holes(like why don't they fuse?)darzap wrote:There are 4-5 types of fusion, the first of which has been used in the Namek Saga (before we've seen the first Super Saiyan) and all but one of them have already been used in/for the ToP. How is it that a deus ex machina?Hawk9211 wrote:No fusion,thanks.It is a deus ex machina that should be written out of story,preferably forever.
Piccolo who is in low thousands gets in million range.
Two brats which are individually weaker than piccolo become stronger than antagonist which was dozens of time stronger than if not hundreds time stronger.
Then,vegata and goku become more powerful than the antagonist who again if not hundred times but still is dozens of times powerful becomes fodder to fusion.Same with merged zamasu.
