I could understand the animator groaning and being miserable but toyotaro I'm pretty sure he enjoying his job or unless trolliyama forced toyotaro to draw that lame cart gagekrolo2 wrote:The only way I'd let him write anything is he had another, competent writer to bounce off of and an editor to reign him in, cause he cannot work on his own anymore, he can't. The way how he flip flops around how his own protagonists abilities work is a good example of this. FFS, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama woke up one day, saw his drawing of SS4 Goku on a GT box set in his house or something then decided "This looks cool! Let's put it in!"The gr wrote:So is toriyama fault for fucking up the DBS anime and manga for his vague outline I just wish toriyama wrote his damn manga like toyble is the artist, meanwhile toriyama is the writer
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So I now know that all editors are artificially created. But yeah, he totally needs someone to back him up, I actually believe the namek arc, may have been a one in a million chance, and even then, Freeza acted out of characterekrolo2 wrote:Not all editors are created equal, Toriyama worked fine with them beforehand and it can get done again. As long as the editor gives input like "Uh boss, you bringing back the golden line of Super Saiyan is fucking stupid, don't do that." and not "This Hit guy looks boring, give him a transformation!".Gog wrote:Ekrolo2 have you not forgotten what the editors did to the Cell Arc?ekrolo2 wrote: The only way I'd let him write anything is he had another, competent writer to bounce off of and an editor to reign him in, cause he cannot work on his own anymore, he can't.
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Well, they already made Fem!Broly... I'd dig a fem!Cooler...DefinitiveDubs wrote:I think Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie should be made canon.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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His plot outlines are garbage. There hasn't been a single story concept of his in years that doesn't fall apart once you examine it with even a slightly critical eye.Gog wrote:Toriyama doesn't need to go the fuck away, he has to provide the plot outlines.
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Black Goku was pretty good. I'd say that his plot outlines are good once you get a contempt writer to rewrite the parts that make no senseJinzoningen MULE wrote:His plot outlines are garbage. There hasn't been a single story concept of his in years that doesn't fall apart once you examine it with even a slightly critical eye.Gog wrote:Toriyama doesn't need to go the fuck away, he has to provide the plot outlines.
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Toei / the Dragon Ball Room made up Goku Black, not Toriyama.Gog wrote:Black Goku was pretty good. I'd say that his plot outlines are good once you get a contempt writer to rewrite the parts that make no senseJinzoningen MULE wrote:His plot outlines are garbage. There hasn't been a single story concept of his in years that doesn't fall apart once you examine it with even a slightly critical eye.Gog wrote:Toriyama doesn't need to go the fuck away, he has to provide the plot outlines.
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That's not necessarily true. All we know is that Toriyama wrote the FT Arc in response from Toei.Dbzfan94 wrote:Toei / the Dragon Ball Room made up Goku Black, not Toriyama.Gog wrote:Black Goku was pretty good. I'd say that his plot outlines are good once you get a contempt writer to rewrite the parts that make no senseJinzoningen MULE wrote: His plot outlines are garbage. There hasn't been a single story concept of his in years that doesn't fall apart once you examine it with even a slightly critical eye.
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I agree. If only someone could go back and tell Toei that Gohan's tail does not ever grow back, I'd make a case that it could be.DefinitiveDubs wrote:I think Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie should be made canon.
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That's not the only problem, if this Movie is after Future Trunks warning, Goku shouldn't have difficulty in turning into a SSJ, also for Broly movie, well they could mention the wait for the Cell Games and Goku, Gohan shouldn't be in their base forms.ShadowBardock89 wrote:I agree. If only someone could go back and tell Toei that Gohan's tail does not ever grow back, I'd make a case that it could be.
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I want the idea of Fem Coola, it's just I'm afraid of them giving her boobs....Kanassa wrote:Well, they already made Fem!Broly... I'd dig a fem!Cooler...DefinitiveDubs wrote:I think Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie should be made canon.
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Gog wrote:I want the idea of Fem Coola, it's just I'm afraid of them giving her boobs....Kanassa wrote:Well, they already made Fem!Broly... I'd dig a fem!Cooler...DefinitiveDubs wrote:I think Cooler's Revenge and the first Broly movie should be made canon.
But for real, what is up with you and lewd things ?JulieYBM wrote:Art is aubjective but boobies are forever.
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You are saying that to Jacob or Gog? Because I want to know his deal too. Not that I'm agaisnt him.
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Gog. Also, that quote comes from the funniest thread from Kanzenshuu (that I know of). It's a great laugh, check it out.Cure Dragon 255 wrote:You are saying that to Jacob or Gog? Because I want to know his deal too. Not that I'm agaisnt him.
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Where the fuck did this come from? I never knew that Jacob replied to me, he must have deleted it, but in which case I shall still reply to it as normal.Soppa Saia People wrote:Gog wrote:I want the idea of Fem Coola, it's just I'm afraid of them giving her boobs....Kanassa wrote: Well, they already made Fem!Broly... I'd dig a fem!Cooler...But for real, what is up with you and lewd things ?JulieYBM wrote:Art is aubjective but boobies are forever.
Boobies on Fem Coola is not a subject of art, but more of a case of biology, as boobies are a mammalian trait that only mammals have. That's why I hate the idea
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He didn't. It was from a thread that I linked above.Gog wrote:Soppa Saia People wrote:Gog wrote:
I want the idea of Fem Coola, it's just I'm afraid of them giving her boobs....But for real, what is up with you and lewd things ?JulieYBM wrote:Art is aubjective but boobies are forever.
Where the fuck did this come from? I never knew that Jacob replied to me, he must have deleted it, but in which case I shall still reply to it as normal.
Boobies on Fem Coola is not a subject of art, but more of a case of biology, as boobies are a mammalian trait that only mammals have. That's why I hate the idea
I don't see a problem with it but, whatever floats your boat
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Soppa Saia People wrote:He didn't. It was from a thread that I linked above.Gog wrote:Soppa Saia People wrote:
But for real, what is up with you and lewd things ?
Where the fuck did this come from? I never knew that Jacob replied to me, he must have deleted it, but in which case I shall still reply to it as normal.
Boobies on Fem Coola is not a subject of art, but more of a case of biology, as boobies are a mammalian trait that only mammals have. That's why I hate the idea
I don't see a problem with it but, whatever floats your boat
It's just now that I know the fact, it has ruined boobies on lizard for me, forever. Also it just doesn't look that great on the race.
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Who's to say Frieza and his ilk didn't evolve features similar to those of mammals, anyway?Gog wrote:Soppa Saia People wrote:He didn't. It was from a thread that I linked above.Gog wrote:
Where the fuck did this come from? I never knew that Jacob replied to me, he must have deleted it, but in which case I shall still reply to it as normal.
Boobies on Fem Coola is not a subject of art, but more of a case of biology, as boobies are a mammalian trait that only mammals have. That's why I hate the idea
I don't see a problem with it but, whatever floats your boatUh, I just thought that Jacob, actually replied to me.
It's just now that I know the fact, it has ruined boobies on lizard for me, forever. Also it just doesn't look that great on the race.
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Because they clearly have not evolved features similar to mammals, as Freeza's dick is inside his body, not flopping around like a hungry, hungry hippo. Freeza and the rest of his race don't have any fur, or hair. They are humanoid but that's were it endsTheUltimateNinja wrote:Who's to say Frieza and his ilk didn't evolve features similar to those of mammals, anyway?Gog wrote:Soppa Saia People wrote: He didn't. It was from a thread that I linked above.
I don't see a problem with it but, whatever floats your boatUh, I just thought that Jacob, actually replied to me.
It's just now that I know the fact, it has ruined boobies on lizard for me, forever. Also it just doesn't look that great on the race.
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I'd headcanon that as the early effects of the Heart VirusNoah wrote:That's not the only problem, if this Movie is after Future Trunks warning, Goku shouldn't have difficulty in turning into a SSJ, also for Broly movie, well they could mention the wait for the Cell Games and Goku, Gohan shouldn't be in their base forms.ShadowBardock89 wrote:I agree. If only someone could go back and tell Toei that Gohan's tail does not ever grow back, I'd make a case that it could be.
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But... the heart virus didn't even happen until the very day that the androids appeared. He can easily become a Super Saiyan when the heart virus is in full swing, too. Need I even mention that I'm pretty sure they would have mentioned something like that.Kanassa wrote:I'd headcanon that as the early effects of the Heart VirusNoah wrote:That's not the only problem, if this Movie is after Future Trunks warning, Goku shouldn't have difficulty in turning into a SSJ, also for Broly movie, well they could mention the wait for the Cell Games and Goku, Gohan shouldn't be in their base forms.ShadowBardock89 wrote:I agree. If only someone could go back and tell Toei that Gohan's tail does not ever grow back, I'd make a case that it could be.
It's pretty far-fetched, the fact of the matter is that the movie logic just doesn't work, no matter how you try to rationalize.
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