Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:03 am

Chuquita wrote:Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard "densetsu no senshi" used elsewhere in DB? Because I've heard it used in Toei's other franchises, but I don't think I've heard it here (which made it kind of funny to hear that phrase in the BOG CM.)
Only ''Athena no Seinto'' in Saint Seiya.....
This is so funny, when I was buying whole set of SS tankoubons and the Japanese shopkeeper asked me: ''And which of the manga you wanna buy?''
and I said: ''These Saint Seiya volumes'' ''What??'' so I poked on them ''Ah, yes! Seinto Seiya!!''....

BTW. Trailer was awesome, but uh! I'm somewhat not interested in new SSJ form :( But let's judge it by the relevant existing facts later :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by fogdark » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:36 am

Well, it was to be expected that Goku was the one with the new transformation. Japan loves him. There's even that rumor about Toriyama, after unsuccsessfully attempting to make Gohan the new protagonist in the Buu saga, brought back Goku from the dead because the fans were demanding it.
The fact is Goku is the main character, not Vegeta nor anyone else, so after 20 years without any DBZ movie, of course they're going to give Goku the new Super Saiyan God form. It's like going to see a Pokemon movie years after it ends, only to see Ash defeat the bad guy with a random pokemon instead of Pikachu, exactly, not happening. :lol:
Still, I wouldn't count Vegeta out, since he is the one who apparently knows best about Birusu and about Saiyan culture :lol:
That trailer was pretty awesome. It's nice to finally hear FLOW's cover on a trailer, loving Buu's pissed expression, and I'm hyped for the new transformation. Here's hoping it looks pretty cool. Piccolo singing is gonna be so awesome though, and Gohan's dance moves ...maybe this is when Videl realizes she wants/needs to marry him? :lol:
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:35 am

New trailer looks awesome. I bet the Oozaru means the same old "Oozaru/Adult Goku's ass/Kid Goku's penis/Baby Goku making rounds like a ball" shit all over again, like with Super Saiyan 3 & Super Saiyan 4.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I assume that the Super Saiyan God form will be temporary for Goku, since they keep mentioning this being before GT, and Goku didn't use Super Saiyan God, obviously.
They could be ignoring GT since GT is not apart of Akira Toriyama's story and I doubt Toriyama cares about GT. I just find out this info today and I have mixed feelings about it. I personally think we have enough SSJ forms already.
They did place this movie before GT, and most specifically, between the last chapters of the manga, so they are not ignoring it. The way they are placing this makes me think that they place it in both the anime stories (DB/Z/GT/Movies) & manga story.
dbzfan7 wrote:This feels like fan fiction. Did Toriyama really approve of this?
So wait, we get something new after so many years, and everyone calls this fan-fiction? I don't believe what I'm living... :|
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 am

Piccolo brutally singing Karaoke? Goku in a tracksuit? March can't come soon enough.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:43 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:This feels like fan fiction. Did Toriyama really approve of this?
So wait, we get something new after so many years, and everyone calls this fan-fiction? I don't believe what I'm living... :|
Seeing Yūsuke Watanabe's message reported from his Twitter account, he seems like a hardcore DBZ fan happy to see his fanfiction released in theaters.
And the whole God thing concept (destruction needed for creation, Super Saiyan God) adds to the feeling it's fanfiction more than the DBZ movies written by Takao Koyama.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:55 am

So, you would prefer a new movie like all the previous ones? Because I don't want another movie with same old recycled story. I want something new, and this movie really is something new.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by kei17 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:02 am

The track list of the soundtrack CD has been revealed on FLOW's official site:
1. 漆黒の宇宙(破壊神のめざめ)
2. 悪い予感
3. 我らがヒーロー孫悟空(~「CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA」(メインタイトル))
4. 迫るビルスの影(ビルスとウイス)
5. 迫るビルスの影(ビルスの予知夢)
6. ブルマの誕生日パーティー
7. 破壊神ビルス登場
8. 慌てる界王
9. HERO(悟空の好奇心)
10. スーパーサイヤ人3のパワー
11. 地球の危機
12. よみがえった記憶
13. 迫るビルスの影(ベジータの不安)
14. 超豪華景品
15. ピラフ一味参上
16. ピラフ一味退散
17. 悲しくもバカバカしい記憶
18. 迫るビルスの影(スーパーサイヤ人ゴットを求めて)
19. ビンゴ大会開幕
20. ピラフ一味参上(ベイビーギャング)
21. ビルスの逆鱗
22. 楽しいビンゴ
23. ビルス圧倒的パワー
24. ベジータ激怒
25. 不死身のビルス
26. 悟空登場
27. 神龍出現
28. 伝説のゴッド
29. 選ばれし戦士達
30. もう一人のサイヤ人
31. スーパーサイヤ人ゴッド誕生
32. スーパーサイヤ人ゴッドのパワー
33. 悟空ピンチ
34. 神との死闘
35. HERO ~希望の歌~ -Short Ver.-
36. 守るべき命
37. 命のかぎり
38. 永遠の宇宙(芽生えた友情)
39. 絶体絶命
40. 永遠の宇宙(別れ)
41. 漆黒の宇宙(闘いの後で)
42. CHA-LA HAED-CHA-LA (平和な地球)
43. CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA

*Warning: Plot Spoiler*

My rough translation:

01. Pitch-black space (The awakening of the God of destruction)
02. A bad feeling
03. Our hero Son Goku (to CHA-LA- HEAD-CHA-LA <main title>)
04. Birusu's shadow closing in (Birusu and Uisu)
05. Birusu's shadow closing in (Birusu's predictive dream)
06. A Birthday party for Bulma
07. Birusu the God of destruction appears
08. Panicking Kaio
09. HERO (Goku's curiosity)
10. The power of Super Saiyan 3
11. The crisis of the Earth
12. The memory has been recovered
13. Birusu's shadow closing in (Vegeta's fear)
14. The super luxury prize
15. Pilaf and his gang appear
16. Pilaf and his gang run away
17. A sad but absurd memory
18. Birusu's shadow closing in (Searching for the Super Saiyan God)
19. A bingo game begins
20. Pilaf and his gang appear (Baby gang)
21. Birusu's wrath
22. A fun bingo game
23. Birusu's overwhelming power
24. Vegeta becomes furious
25. Birusu the immortal
26. Goku coming in
27. Sheng Long appears
28. The legendary God
29. The chosen warriors
30. Another Saiyan
31. Super Saiyan God is born
32. The power of the Super Saiyan God
33. Goku in a pinch
34. A deadly battle with the God
35. Hero - kibou no uta - Short Ver.
36. The lives that must be saved
37. As long as he lives
38. The eternal universe (A new friendship)
39. Certain death
40. The eternal universe (Farewell)
41. Pitch-black space (After the battle)
42. CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA (The peaceful Earth)
43. CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA



The definitive version:

01. The Blackness of Space (Awakening of the God of Destruction)
02. A Bad Feeling
03. Our Hero, Son Goku (~ “CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA” (Main Title))
04. Birusu’s Approaching Shadow (Birusu and Uisu)
05. Birusu’s Approaching Shadow (Birusu’s Prophetic Dream)
06. Bulma’s Birthday Party
07. Birusu, God of Destruction, Appears
08. Kaiō in a Panic
09. HERO (Goku’s Curiosity)
10. Super Saiyan 3′s Power
11. Earth’s Crisis
12. A Memory Recalled
13. Birusu’s Approaching Shadow (Vegeta’s Unease)
14. A Super-Deluxe Prize
15. The Pilaf Gang Arrives
16. The Pilaf Gang is Driven Off
17. A Sad-Yet-Foolish Memory
18. Birusu’s Approaching Shadow (Seeking Out the Super Saiyan God)
19. The Curtain Opens on a Bingo Tournament
20. The Pilaf Gang Arrives (Baby Gang)
21. Birusu’s Counteroffensive
22. Fun Bingo
23. Birusu’s Overwhelming Power
24. Vegeta Enraged
25. The Invulnerable Birusu
26. Goku Appears
27. Shenlong Comes Out
28. The Legendary God
29. Chosen Warriors
30. One More Saiyan
31. Super Saiyan God is Born
32. Super Saiyan God’s Power
33. Goku in Trouble
34. Mortal Combat with a God
35. HERO: Song of Hope —Short Ver.—
36. Life that Must Be Protected
37. As Long as I Live
38. The Eternal Universe (Blooming Friendship)
39. Certain Death
40. The Eternal Universe (Parting)
41. The Blackness of Space (After the Battle)
42. CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA (A Peaceful Earth)
43. CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA
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Post by Scarz » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:24 am

Thank you kei17! I cannot begin to tell you how beautiful that gif is.

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Post by Marco Polo » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 am

Zephyr wrote:Not to be that guy, and bring up Gohan's hair (again), but I'm perplexed at him not having any bangs in base in his with-glasses-EoZ-GT outfit/design there, and yet he seems to have his trademark Buu-arc bang while in SSj. That just seems really odd...

As for the Oozaru, I'm placing my bets on it being there symbolically, like with SSj3.
He's not a pure Saiyan, so he can probably just style his hair in different styles depending on his mood. In scholar clothes he probably just comb any bangs.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:05 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: They did place this movie before GT, and most specifically, between the last chapters of the manga, so they are not ignoring it. The way they are placing this makes me think that they place it in both the anime stories (DB/Z/GT/Movies) & manga story.
I remember one of the writers of the movie saying that they view GT not apart of the original story. The movie is flowing the manga and GT is toei creation.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:13 am

I'm really happy this movie is different than the rest, and I will consider it canon because Toriyama approved of it, that's just me though :P
Oh and there was a twitter statement of not viewing Gt as a part of the "original work"

@komori_mayo Thanks! Strictly speaking, it’s between the comic’s “final chapter” and “just before that”. GT isn’t part of the original work, after all~
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:17 am

I view GT as Highlander 2 of the Dragon Ball franchise. GT is the least popular in the franchise and was a failure back in 1997, I think ignoring is a good thing.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:23 am

Who cares whether this is in line with GT or not. It's not like there aren't already contradictions in this movie with regards to other DBZ stories. For example, Yamcha has grey hair in the JSAT special but his hair is pure black in this new movie.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by kei17 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:24 am

The most interesting track name of the soundtrack CD is "30. Another Saiyan". Who is another Saiyan? Is someone new going to appear?

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Post by sintzu » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:30 am

kei17 wrote:The most interesting track name of the soundtrack CD is "30. Another Saiyan". Who is another Saiyan? Is someone new going to appear?
i think bilis is eather a worm up or a good guy wanting goku's help to defeat this new saiyan who i think is the super saiyan god
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Post by Michsi » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:41 am

Thanks a lot for the trailer and Soundtracklist :D
The most interesting track name of the soundtrack CD is "30. Another Saiyan". Who is another Saiyan? Is someone new going to appear?
Was just about to post that. Yeah, that's definitely the most interesting title in that list. My first reaction was something between, "Wonder who it is?" and "Oh, not another one...." I just hope it's not Tarble. I have nothing against the little guy, but I'd rather it not be him.

Well, I suppose I can kiss my wish for Piccolo to have a significant fighting role in this movie good-bye. Karaoke, :lol: ....

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Post by sintzu » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:44 am

Michsi wrote:Thanks a lot for the trailer and Soundtracklist :D
, that's definitely the most interesting title in that list. My first reaction was something between, "Wonder who it is?"
it could be the legend vegeta spoke of in the freeza arc
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Post by Marco Polo » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:46 am

Vegeta fans can rejoice -- his name appears twice in the soundtrack whereas Gohan's name doesn't appear at all :)

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by kei17 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:47 am

I guess the track is used in a flashback of the former Super Saiyan God whom Birusu met long, long ago.

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