"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[IndieBooToo]

I think it does not make much sense for the title of EP 126 to refer to Vegeta's sacrifice.

If that were the case, then it would not be said to '' surpass even one God. '' How would he overcome a God by exploding himself? Not to mention that this title seems to be linked to EP 125 (in which something is said about "the God of Destruction Toppo").

The SSB with pupils appearing on the ED does not appear to be the '' new Blue '' from EP 123, so that's all that remains to come after (on EP 126), and Vegeta's traumatic experience at 126 suggests a new power up , which may be something related to the UI.

Lol I can't wait till that ending shows to be as relevant as the ending with Goku and Gohan. The rage from Vegeta fanboys would be amazing.

[Kenneth La Torre]

So vegeta will come close to G o.D, or be as strong as a G.o.D in 126. I wonder how that will play out.
Based on the fact that the episode before is about toppo, my guess is that toppo will fall to vegeta. Thats as much as i see vegeta achieve, and its impresive to be honest.

[IndieBooToo]

So vegeta will come close to G o.D, or be as strong as a G.o.D in 126. I wonder how that will play out.
Based on the fact that the episode before is about toppo, my guess is that toppo will fall to vegeta. Thats as much as i see vegeta achieve, and its impresive to be honest.

Nowhere does it suggest that. Looks more like Vegeta will attempt to try and job like he usually does as it fails.

[MajinVegetaPD]

Oh look, Frieza is using that same ploy a third time. I really doubt it'll work on Dyspo though. Universe 11 has no reason to trust him at all and they don't need his help with Jiren being so dominant over Goku and Vegeta.

I do think Frieza will genuinely try to jump ship if it looks like Goku is going to lose. Frieza is a self-serving opportunist above all else and as he said the first time he tried this, he doesn't care about anyone or anyting else.

On top of that, Goku really has him by the balls righ now. If Frieza betrays the team to get the Super Dragon Balls, he can pretty well forget Goku wishing him back to life. So Frieza could either wish himself back to life, lose his opportunity to control the gods and probably just get himself killed again, or he could try to control the Gods like he said, not get wished back to life, and get wiped from existence when GokuVegeta or one of the gods kills him again or his time runs out and he goes right back to Hell with nothing gained. Even wishing for immortality wouldn't save him from Zeno.

Frieza's pretty screwed whatever he does.

Lol Vegeta will end up getting killed by him a third time.

Sorry, but Freeza would get curb stomped by Vegeta right now.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Oh look, Frieza is using that same ploy a third time. I really doubt it'll work on Dyspo though. Universe 11 has no reason to trust him at all and they don't need his help with Jiren being so dominant over Goku and Vegeta.

I do think Frieza will genuinely try to jump ship if it looks like Goku is going to lose. Frieza is a self-serving opportunist above all else and as he said the first time he tried this, he doesn't care about anyone or anyting else.

On top of that, Goku really has him by the balls righ now. If Frieza betrays the team to get the Super Dragon Balls, he can pretty well forget Goku wishing him back to life. So Frieza could either wish himself back to life, lose his opportunity to control the gods and probably just get himself killed again, or he could try to control the Gods like he said, not get wished back to life, and get wiped from existence when GokuVegeta or one of the gods kills him again or his time runs out and he goes right back to Hell with nothing gained. Even wishing for immortality wouldn't save him from Zeno.

Frieza's pretty screwed whatever he does.

Lol Vegeta will end up getting killed by him a third time.

Sorry, but Freeza would get curb stomped by Vegeta right now.

I think the dude is trolling. Check the response he made to my comment.

[darzap]

Nowhere does it suggest that. Looks more like Vegeta will attempt to try and job like he usually does as it fails.

And where does it suggest that? If nothing else, the thing I admire most about the people, who are disliking Vegeta, is their consistency.

Vegeta is getting some buildup at the moment and Toppo being thrown out eventually seems quite likely. He might be Vegetas final elimination, it would be a prize worthy of the second-to-main character. A few days ago, I would have guessed that Gohan will get Toppo, but it seems like Toppo will get a little to big for that and Dyspo would be a good prize too.

Of course, that leaves out Freeza, but there are many options for him. Maybe he backstabs Goku and wins to have some buildup for the next arc. Maybe his plan to backstab U7 for U11 backfires and he gets eliminated by the pride troopers for being wicked. He is an evil character, his arc doesn't necessarily have to reward him at any point, it could also be about him having an evil scheme backfire.

At least one out of Gohan, Freeza, Goku and Vegeta (pretty sure #17 won't get another elimination) can't have any more eliminations except for team kills. And Vegeta does have a history of getting something good each arc in Super.

[IndieBooToo]

Oh look, Frieza is using that same ploy a third time. I really doubt it'll work on Dyspo though. Universe 11 has no reason to trust him at all and they don't need his help with Jiren being so dominant over Goku and Vegeta.

I do think Frieza will genuinely try to jump ship if it looks like Goku is going to lose. Frieza is a self-serving opportunist above all else and as he said the first time he tried this, he doesn't care about anyone or anyting else.

On top of that, Goku really has him by the balls righ now. If Frieza betrays the team to get the Super Dragon Balls, he can pretty well forget Goku wishing him back to life. So Frieza could either wish himself back to life, lose his opportunity to control the gods and probably just get himself killed again, or he could try to control the Gods like he said, not get wished back to life, and get wiped from existence when GokuVegeta or one of the gods kills him again or his time runs out and he goes right back to Hell with nothing gained. Even wishing for immortality wouldn't save him from Zeno.

Frieza's pretty screwed whatever he does.

Lol Vegeta will end up getting killed by him a third time.

Sorry, but Freeza would get curb stomped by Vegeta right now.

In fanfiction maybe lol

[IndieBooToo]

Nowhere does it suggest that. Looks more like Vegeta will attempt to try and job like he usually does as it fails.

And where does it suggest that? If nothing else, the thing I admire most about the people, who are disliking Vegeta, is their consistency.

Vegeta is getting some buildup at the moment and Toppo being thrown out eventually seems quite likely. He might be Vegetas final elimination, it would be a prize worthy of the second-to-main character. A few days ago, I would have guessed that Gohan will get Toppo, but it seems like Toppo will get a little to big for that and Dyspo would be a good prize too.

Of course, that leaves out Freeza, but there are many options for him. Maybe he backstabs Goku and wins to have some buildup for the next arc. Maybe his plan to backstab U7 for U11 backfires and he gets eliminated by the pride troopers for being wicked. He is an evil character, his arc doesn't necessarily have to reward him at any point, it could also be about him having an evil scheme backfire.

At least one out of Gohan, Freeza, Goku and Vegeta (pretty sure #17 won't get another elimination) can't have any more eliminations except for team kills. And Vegeta does have a history of getting something good each arc in Super.

Vegeta is being built up to job like he usually does.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Nowhere does it suggest that. Looks more like Vegeta will attempt to try and job like he usually does as it fails.

And where does it suggest that? If nothing else, the thing I admire most about the people, who are disliking Vegeta, is their consistency.

Vegeta is getting some buildup at the moment and Toppo being thrown out eventually seems quite likely. He might be Vegetas final elimination, it would be a prize worthy of the second-to-main character. A few days ago, I would have guessed that Gohan will get Toppo, but it seems like Toppo will get a little to big for that and Dyspo would be a good prize too.

Of course, that leaves out Freeza, but there are many options for him. Maybe he backstabs Goku and wins to have some buildup for the next arc. Maybe his plan to backstab U7 for U11 backfires and he gets eliminated by the pride troopers for being wicked. He is an evil character, his arc doesn't necessarily have to reward him at any point, it could also be about him having an evil scheme backfire.

At least one out of Gohan, Freeza, Goku and Vegeta (pretty sure #17 won't get another elimination) can't have any more eliminations except for team kills. And Vegeta does have a history of getting something good each arc in Super.

I believe that toppo will power up to a point where he rivals the power of other gods of destruction (rival, not equal), and vegeta will unlock a power beyond that, but at the same time it will cost him his elimination (will be to injured to continue and gets trown out)

[TheUltimateNinja]

Seems most of the U7 team is set up for embarrassment. Gohan and Freeza get clowned by Dyspo, Vegeta jobs to Toppo, and Goku is finally forced into a 3v1 fight.

[darzap]

Seems most of the U7 team is set up for embarrassment. Gohan and Freeza get clowned by Dyspo, Vegeta jobs to Toppo, and Goku is finally forced into a 3v1 fight.

You must be jesting. That would be terrible cast utilization. Super has done much better than this in the past. These fights rarely start with the tides turned in favor of the good guys. It is expected that they'll show some trouble for the heroes (and Freeza) in the start.

I believe that toppo will power up to a point where he rivals the power of other gods of destruction (rival, not equal), and vegeta will unlock a power beyond that, but at the same time it will cost him his elimination (will be to injured to continue and gets trown out)

As someone, who likes Vegeta , I'd consider that a totally acceptable scenario. By that time, with two major power ups and the elimination of the second most powerful enemy in the main event, he would played a sufficiently large role in the ToP, given his position in the cast. It would be nice to see him mess up Freeza one more time, though. But of course, we have no idea yet, about what will be up with Freeza.

[sintzu]

It would be nice to see him mess up Freeza one more time, though. But of course, we have no idea yet, about what will be up with Freeza.

I highly doubt they went through the trouble of bringing back Freeza just to have him fight Dyspo so chances are he'll get an entire new arc to himself after this where Vegeta can take his time with him.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Seems most of the U7 team is set up for embarrassment. Gohan and Freeza get clowned by Dyspo, Vegeta jobs to Toppo, and Goku is finally forced into a 3v1 fight.

I doubt it. If goku UI and jiren fought at full power,i doubt dyspo or toppo would get near that fight. Its like two humans fighting, and a sentient spec of dust trying to help you, it will make 0 difference.

[Kenneth La Torre]

It would be nice to see him mess up Freeza one more time, though. But of course, we have no idea yet, about what will be up with Freeza.

I highly doubt they went through the trouble of bringing back Freeza just to have him fight Dyspo so chances are he'll get an entire new arc to himself after this where Vegeta can take his time with him.

Double post, sorry
I doubt frieza will have an arc after this to be honest. I think goku and jiren are going to be the last ones standing.

[sintzu]

Gohan needs to beat Toppo to be redeemed.

All you have to do is look at where he's positioned to know he's not taking him out.



Universe 7 is in their hands now.

They really screwed up not having Gohan or Freeza take out major characters before the very end. Now there's only 3 characters left and Jiren is for Goku.

Freeza will probably get a future arc so he'll make up what he didn't get here but I don't know about Gohan.

His previous performance during the tournament was hit & miss at best, but now it seems like the studio is beginning to embroider his role.

What he did before makes sense cause if he's going to get so much attention at the end there's no need to take away from the others who won't make it that far.

I think goku and jiren are going to be the last ones standing.

If Goku wins then he'll be stupid enough to bring him back.

[IndieBooToo]

Gohan needs to beat Toppo to be redeemed.

All you have to do is look at where he's positioned to know he's not taking him out.



Universe 7 is in Goku's hands.

They really screwed up not having Gohan or Freeza take out major characters before the very end. Now there's only 3 characters left and Jiren is for Goku.

Freeza will probably get a future arc so he'll make up what he didn't get here but I don't know about Gohan.

His previous performance during the tournament was hit & miss at best, but now it seems like the studio is beginning to embroider his role.

What he did before makes sense cause if he's going to get so much attention at the end there's no need to take away from the others who won't make it that far.

I think goku and jiren are going to be the last ones standing.

If Goku wins then he'll be stupid enough to bring him back.

Fixed.

[Mercenary]

"Surpassing Gods" in a place where we've got a bunch of Hakaishins watching the entire show from the bench is nothing really surprising.

Vegeta after huge power up, performing risky attack, going all out....against Toppo?


I bet he will be leagues above Toppo.

I am not underestimating Toppo, but it doesn't make sense for Vegeta to fight Toppo after trying to handle Jiren and keeping trying to fight him.

[sintzu]

It doesn't make sense for Vegeta to fight Toppo after trying to handle Jiren and keeping trying to fight him.

If Toppo takes out Gohan and 17 while Freeza either goes out with Dyspo or beats him but doesn't help then Toppo helping Jiren will force Vegeta to take him on while Goku takes on Jiren, especially if Goku unlocks UI again.

Universe 7 is in Goku's hands.

Fixed.

Then why on earth is Vegeta standing right next to him and not in the background like everyone else ? I highly doubt he's there just to make the image look good...he does make it look good doesn't he ?

[Mercenary]

It doesn't make sense for Vegeta to fight Toppo after trying to handle Jiren and keeping trying to fight him.

If Toppo takes out Gohan and 17 while Freeza either goes out with Dyspo or beats him but doesn't help then Toppo helping Jiren will force Vegeta to take him on while Goku takes on Jiren, especially if Goku unlocks UI again.

Nah, I don't see it happening. Taking out #17? Sure.
But not Gohan. It will be the last bone thrown to his fanbase, so they'll most likely let him eliminate Toppo.

Universe 7 is in Goku's hands.

Fixed.

Then why on earth is Vegeta standing right next to him and not in the background like everyone else ? I highly doubt he's there just to make the image look good...he does make it look good doesn't he ?

My bet is - Jiren will lose to Goku & Vegeta tag team.

[sintzu]

My bet is - Jiren will lose to Goku & Vegeta tag team.

A big plot twist would be Toppo being the strongest of u11 all along.