I'm pretty much at the point where I "Foe" anyone who nitpicks power levels. I refuse to even acknowledge their absurdity as a part of the fandom.floofychan333 wrote:Sometimes I wish power levels never existed. They cause so much tension between users and debates that stereotype our fan base as being annoying, and seem to piss people off way more than help them out. Also, everyone here seems to know all of them and I frankly don't care whose power level is what.
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You'll find debates of this type in ANY type of show. In action shows, it's who can beat up whom, in romantic stories, it's who should end up with whom. As long as the debates are intelligently discussed, I see no issue with it, nitpicky or not.floofychan333 wrote:Sometimes I wish power levels never existed. They cause so much tension between users and debates that stereotype our fan base as being annoying, and seem to piss people off way more than help them out. Also, everyone here seems to know all of them and I frankly don't care whose power level is what. If there have to be "Who's the strongest/who's stronger" debates (which seem unavoidable regardless in this fandom), I'd rather we used examples of actual stuff from the manga and anime to justify our opinions.
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I appreciate the complimentary words (directed to various people in the conversation), but proper aspect ratios, not just in Dragon Ball but in all media, is a VERY big deal to me. A very, very, VERY big deal to me. In fact, the aspect ratios were by far the tipping point for me when it came to not getting the orange bricks. Honestly, had it been the exact same release, with all of the other (really bad terrible) problems, only in 4:3, I probably would have bought them all... and then felt very stupid two years later when the Dragon Boxes came out.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:He doesn't give a damn about cropping.Kanassa wrote:Who? And what?!ekrolo2 wrote:I give less of a fuck about aspect ratio discussions/analyses than Gaffer Tape does about the equivalent things for power levels.
So... yeah. Thanks, FUNimation, for screwing up the orange bricks so badly that I didn't waste my money on them!
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What's Piccolo's power level in Resurrection F the movie if Zarbon level Shisami is stronger than himGaffer Tape wrote:Wait. What were we talking about again?
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Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
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Abridged Dartz is better than everyone in DBZA.
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Definitely, but Goku Black managed to break everyone's expectations.Esfír Dedragón wrote:Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
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How was it the worst?Esfír Dedragón wrote:Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
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The concept of an evil Goku is a bad idea, I agree with you there, but I think what we got in the end was actually pretty clever.Esfír Dedragón wrote:Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
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As someone who really appreciates YGOTAS, I disagreeekrolo2 wrote:Abridged Dartz is better than everyone in DBZA.
I mean Abridged Dartz is really funny in the Marik's Evil Concil and in the actual arc, but I think he's not even close to Nappa or Guru in the DBZA IMO
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He isn't even Dragon Ball Z Abridged Freeza tier. If he tried to take on the heavy hitters like Perfect Cell he'd get spanked.ekrolo2 wrote:Abridged Dartz is better than everyone in DBZA.
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Why is it a bad idea?Footlong Shoe wrote:The concept of an evil Goku is a bad idea, I agree with you there, but I think what we got in the end was actually pretty clever.Esfír Dedragón wrote:Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
Ideas are easy, what matters is execution. Everyone can come up with good ideas. You can have the best idea, but if it falters in execution, then does the idea really matter? If the idea sounds bad but the execution is great, who cares if the idea sounded bad in theory?
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That's essentially my point. The idea sounds bad, but it was executed well, which is why you won't hear me criticizing it.ABED wrote:Why is it a bad idea?Footlong Shoe wrote:The concept of an evil Goku is a bad idea, I agree with you there, but I think what we got in the end was actually pretty clever.Esfír Dedragón wrote:Goku Black is, so far, the WORST idea for a villain in the Dragon Ball Franchise.
It is only marginally better than the idea of a resurrected, golden-paint job Frieza. And that's saying a lot!
Ideas are easy, what matters is execution. Everyone can come up with good ideas. You can have the best idea, but if it falters in execution, then does the idea really matter? If the idea sounds bad but the execution is great, who cares if the idea sounded bad in theory?
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The plot structure of DBS is much better than DBZ.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
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The premise for the Android Arc connects to the Red Ribbon Arc as well as the Saiyan Arc to Freeza, I'll write that off as a harmless slip-up. In DBS, neither the first tournament or the FT Arc tie into anything else other than pre-existing characters, but even the Boo Arc did that.FortuneSSJ wrote:The plot structure of DBS is much better than DBZ.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
Edit: Forgot, BoG was also a thing that is as stand-alone as it gets.
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I'm sorry but DBS has no organic storytellingFortuneSSJ wrote:The plot structure of DBS is much better than DBZ.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
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I'd say that the Future Trunks Arc and the Universe Six arc were pretty organic, for Dragon BallThe gr wrote:I'm sorry but DBS has no organic storytellingFortuneSSJ wrote:The plot structure of DBS is much better than DBZ.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
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Your right about that but bog and ROF hell no. the original DB plot structure or organic storytelling is way better than DBS and DBZGog wrote:I'd say that the Future Trunks Arc and the Universe Six arc were pretty organic, for Dragon BallThe gr wrote:I'm sorry but DBS has no organic storytellingFortuneSSJ wrote:The plot structure of DBS is much better than DBZ.
In Super every arc has plot points that connect to each other, while in DBZ only Saiyan arc connects to Freeza arc. The Cyborgs/Androids and Majin Buu came from nowhere.
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I enjoyed Battle Of Gods and Resurrection Of Freeza.The gr wrote:Your right about that but bog and ROF hell no. the original DB plot structure or organic storytelling is way better than DBS and DBZGog wrote:I'd say that the Future Trunks Arc and the Universe Six arc were pretty organic, for Dragon BallThe gr wrote: I'm sorry but DBS has no organic storytelling
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Dragon Ball, the original version wasn't that good, hell the Majin Buu arc was more entertaining than it
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That's quite an exaggeration. RoF, while mediocre in itself, provided a natural fulfillment to Goku's God power, as well as having Vegeta achieve it on his own through hard work. Then, it gave them a challenge that not only let them fully make use of their perfected power, but reminded them of their weakness. Not to mention the obvious tie-in with Freeza's army, something that should have been addressed ages ago in my opinion.The gr wrote:I'm sorry but DBS has no organic storytelling
Actually... I guess that's pretty much it. I guess you could count Future Trunks as a tie-in, but that's really stretching it.
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