"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Birusu16]

Still not in anyway buying this is retelling the movies. I still believe there will be a time-skip at some point that gets us to post BoGs and RoF because unless they completely retcon the time line and have the movies take place much earlier than they did then that's the only way to get Super to that point.

[soulnova]

Still not in anyway buying this is retelling the movies. I still believe there will be a time-skip at some point that gets us to post BoGs and RoF because unless they completely retcon the time line and have the movies take place much earlier than they did then that's the only way to get Super to that point.

After my dreams of EoZ plot getting murdered in front of my eyes, I completely expect that.

[kizuki]

So, in reading a couple of things it's implied Goten and Trunks would probably have their own little side adventures weekly, potentially unrelated to the main plot of Super.

Do you think that's their way of breaking up the time between monthly V-Jump releases? As in, we'll get the main plot and some Goten/Trunks filler while the manga will focus on maybe 1.5 - 2 episodes per month, recapping what came previously minus the filler (well, maybe just a little Trunks and Goten hilarity)? It would also make sense as maybe they were off on one of their adventures and it was the perfect way for Gohan to not inform them of the FnF situation, as he was concerned they'd do something rash? So kinda just keep them out of the loop conveniently.

I think it's also a possibility of the manga being little jumps ahead or setups for the oncoming episode it follows, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got some Goten/Trunks filler per episode until the series kicks up. Possibly would get quicker manga releases at that point? Maybe they're testing the waters. Just my own thoughts on that.

[Captain Space]

Man, even if there is a timeskip it probably won't be for a few episodes, which means...we're gonna be debating back and forth over the overall timeline placement of this series for weeks, aren't we?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Heroes next update, GDM3, will feature the game's current Makai Invasion Arc plotline, but also a "Super Beerus Arc" based on Dragon Ball Super that highlights Beerus and God Goku. The set comes out on July 16th, less than two weeks after Super's July 5th premier. Now, we probably won't get to Super Saiyan God by then, but if they are already going to be doing the whole tie-in advertising of that battle that early, I imagine we'll have to get to the start of TV!BOG pretty soon.

PS. The Super Twitter posted a bigger image of the Super Start Guide, se we can get a better look at Vegeta's new blue jacket. Also, the "secret" is just a Shenlong settei, not a new character...presumably. (Girl Shenlong? =P)

[Araki]

So, in reading a couple of things it's implied Goten and Trunks would probably have their own little side adventures weekly, potentially unrelated to the main plot of Super.

I think this "Goten and Trunks' weekly side adventures" is another case of people jumping the gun and reading too much. It could be just part of the advertisement for the 1st episode.
And seriously, forget the manga. It's as important to the tv series as the "F" manga was to the movie, they won't change the anime based on 15 pages of monthly promo material.

[ArchedThunder]

Heroes next update, GDM3, will feature the game's current Makai Invasion Arc plotline, but also a "Super Beerus Arc" based on Dragon Ball Super that highlights Beerus and God Goku. The set comes out on July 16th, less than two weeks after Super's July 5th premier. Now, we probably won't get to Super Saiyan God by then, but if they are already going to be doing the whole tie-in advertising of that battle that early, I imagine we'll have to get to the start of TV!BOG pretty soon.

Maybe the BoG rewrite will only last 4 ish episodes like the whole Raditz mini-arc in DBZ, just a small arc that is part of a larger arc to get you adjusted.

[dbgtFO]

PS. The Super Twitter posted a bigger image of the Super Start Guide, se we can get a better look at Vegeta's new blue jacket. Also, the "secret" is just a Shenlong settei, not a new character...presumably. (Girl Shenlong? =P)

What's a settei?

[Basaku]

A smart studio also would know anything that even remotely resembled GT would turn off a lot of people right off the bat. And Pan doesn't even need to be the main character to send away all the people allergic to her presence since GT. The average fan is like that.

Then use Bra/Goten instead of Pan/Trunks and voila. You can play "see? totally not GT" card.

Between the now legendary designs everyone got accustomed with and a post-EoZ scenario that only a handful of hardcore fans want to visit, what would they choose? There's so many obvious reasons why they won't go there..at least not yet.

Legendary nostalgia design will only carry the series forward for so long. DB was defined by progression, character growth and passing time. I would not put it under 'great ideas' umbrella to remove one of the core features of the franchise in its current run.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

What's a settei?

Character design sheet to be used as a reference for animators.

[kizuki]

So, in reading a couple of things it's implied Goten and Trunks would probably have their own little side adventures weekly, potentially unrelated to the main plot of Super.

I think this "Goten and Trunks' weekly side adventures" is another case of people jumping the gun and reading too much. It could be just part of the advertisement for the 1st episode.
And seriously, forget the manga. It's as important to the tv series as the "F" manga was to the movie, they won't change the anime based on 15 pages of monthly promo material.

I can agree to that, too, in that sense. Overall, it seems the manga at the moment isn't specifically important over the series. Was just curious about the whole thing.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind some Goten & Trunks hijinks weekly or so. It's the perfect contrast to some of the serious tones that series took in the Majin Buu arc.

I'm still all in for this being a pre-curser to a BoG's TV special somehow, then ending the first "season" with a FnF TV special in order to keep Super and the movies in line.

Serious waiting game going on to see how they handle it. Hey, at least it's about a week and we're not sitting here with months and months of speculation filling our heads! Lol.

[UpFromTheSkies]

It looks like it will be the multiverse dragon that came from the 9 star ball.

[mogi67]

Heroes next update, GDM3, will feature the game's current Makai Invasion Arc plotline, but also a "Super Beerus Arc" based on Dragon Ball Super that highlights Beerus and God Goku. The set comes out on July 16th, less than two weeks after Super's July 5th premier. Now, we probably won't get to Super Saiyan God by then, but if they are already going to be doing the whole tie-in advertising of that battle that early, I imagine we'll have to get to the start of TV!BOG pretty soon.

Maybe the BoG rewrite will only last 4 ish episodes like the whole Raditz mini-arc in DBZ, just a small arc that is part of a larger arc to get you adjusted.

This is a best case scenario if they have to do a re-write, imo. The last thing this series needs is a 30 episode rehash

[Basaku]

BOG split into 20-min episode would only have material for about 5 episodes anyway. Remember guys, these are just 90/100 minute-movies

[Chuquita]

Unless the tv version has more battles (they are throwing in an extra antagonist and Toriyama did seem to want that human fighters vs Beerus battle that got scrapped for time.).

[ArchedThunder]

Unless the tv version has more battles (they are throwing in an extra antagonist and Toriyama did seem to want that human fighters vs Beerus battle that got scrapped for time.).

At the same time they can cut a lot of the side stuff, especially if Bulma's birthday isn't a part of the plot.

[mogi67]

Actually, kids don't really care about younger characters. Especially in DB. All the kids I know prefer the muscular Goku and Vegeta and barely care about Trunks and Goten. I have yet to meet one kid who likes Present Trunks more than Future Trunks.
The guys at Toei think they understand children but they really don't.

As long as their stories are compelling and the characters are interesting, I don't think it really matters either way. When I was a kid I watched the Batman animated series, X-Men, etc. I was interested in watching grown people having adventures and beating up bad guys. But I also watched Rugrats & Hey Arnold and other cartoons like that.


I just don't really think Goten or Trunks are interesting characters. DB works because Goku is a loveable character and was placed in interesting situations.

[Chuquita]

Unless the tv version has more battles (they are throwing in an extra antagonist and Toriyama did seem to want that human fighters vs Beerus battle that got scrapped for time.).

At the same time they can cut a lot of the side stuff, especially if Bulma's birthday isn't a part of the plot.

Meaning maybe Vegeta won't have to Bingo Dance this time.
...
Maybe he'll have to do something even more ridiculous instead. :3

[alakazam^]

I must say the new Kanzenshuu presentation for the next episode's date looks amazing and very modern, and it goes very well with the modern animation style shown in the picture!
It really looks like "next-gen Dragon Ball".

Man, Super is going to be gorgeous, compared to the remastered footage from Kai, we'll finally get to see modern animation with amazing tone-perfect colors and reflections on the skin, a crisp image, probably a more stable artstyle between episodes...
But most of all, those perfect digital colors, and the capacity for Toei to correct anything on the fly much more easily than with old Z unified footage since they keep the layered file to reposition, redraw and recolor any stuff that would be wrong, as shown with Sailor Moon Crystal!

I really love your consistent positivity!

Still not in anyway buying this is retelling the movies. I still believe there will be a time-skip at some point that gets us to post BoGs and RoF because unless they completely retcon the time line and have the movies take place much earlier than they did then that's the only way to get Super to that point.

To be honest, I think it's obvious the movies (at least KtK) are going to be retold and arguing otherwise doesn't hold much water. You have the "six months after Boo" statement, Champa appearing, Beers awake and remembering SS God. Unless the first episode has a further timeskip to years later after Boo, then we already saw Goku going to Kaiou's where, presumably, Beers will appear.

Man, even if there is a timeskip it probably won't be for a few episodes, which means...we're gonna be debating back and forth over the overall timeline placement of this series for weeks, aren't we?

We already know it starts six months after Boo was defeated, there's not much to debate concerning timelines...

[UltimateHammerBro]

BOG split into 20-min episode would only have material for about 5 episodes anyway. Remember guys, these are just 90/100 minute-movies

This wouldn't be a bad idea. After all, they could have 10 episodes (5 for BoG, 5 for FnF) already done, with only some minor editing to do.

If they're doing the episodes in a hurry, and they're, like, 4 weeks ahead of the series, suddenly WHAM! they're 14