Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[ect5150]

But I've never seen anyone do this, so maybe it's best just to live it alone...

Are you kidding? You've never seen my encodes then Although for screenshot purposes, I might just resize it to 640x480 for speed and ease - versus my normal encodes have the proper aspect encoded into the stream to resize on the fly.

It seems proper aspect ratios are a general mystery on the net, but it seems those standard mistakes many people make have made their way into the authoring now. So, we have some DVDs that won't have the circle displayed correctly unless you resize it the incorrect way everyone else has.

I have tested the DBox for the aspect ratios and you (and I) are correct. Although I apply the differences a little bit differently if I'm using a 1x1 PAR through cropping first. Here are screens of my "test" I did a while back -- the blue circle in each is a perfect circle, but you can see that the 640x480 (top shot) doesn't match up. If you must have 640x480, crop 9 pixels from each side then resize to 640x480 to achieve the correct circle (the bottom shot).

Click to enlarge either one
Incorrect - notice the right side of the circle overlaps with the dragon circle logo.


Correct

[SupremeSSJ]

Can't lie the levels look great in pq, just needs to be brightened up or something (maybe its me) hope they use the same method I wouldn't mind that quality. The thing that would bother me is aspect ratio as I've never seen it that way.

[Zestanor]

But I've never seen anyone do this, so maybe it's best just to live it alone...

Are you kidding? You've never seen my encodes then Although for screenshot purposes, I might just resize it to 640x480 for speed and ease - versus my normal encodes have the proper aspect encoded into the stream to resize on the fly.

It seems proper aspect ratios are a general mystery on the net, but it seems those standard mistakes many people make have made their way into the authoring now. So, we have some DVDs that won't have the circle displayed correctly unless you resize it the incorrect way everyone else has.

I have tested the DBox for the aspect ratios and you (and I) are correct. Although I apply the differences a little bit differently if I'm using a 1x1 PAR through cropping first. Here are screens of my "test" I did a while back -- the blue circle in each is a perfect circle, but you can see that the 640x480 (top shot) doesn't match up. If you must have 640x480, crop 9 pixels from each side then resize to 640x480 to achieve the correct circle (the bottom shot).

Yes! Exactly!
I remember people used to hawk on "640x480 or it's not a good screencap," but they were wrong!

[kei17]

It really depends on how precise the encoding people knew how to be. If you want a to display a perfect circle on a NTSC CRT TV, the exact width of a 4:3 frame is 710.85 . So that MPEG-2 macroblocking works, DVD width is either 720, or as you said, 704. They usually go with 720. That being said, if they encoded the width absolutely perfectly for a CRT, to get it to display correctly on a computer, you'll have to resize to 648x480. But I've never seen anyone do this, so maybe it's best just to live it alone...

Yeah, I meant only on computer monitors. It's kind of irritating that so many videos on the Internet seem to have been resized incorrectly.

I always go with 720x528 (15:11) because I don't want to crop anything.




Color corrected

[MarcFBR]

Yes! Exactly!
I remember people used to hawk on "640x480 or it's not a good screencap," but they were wrong!

Frankly, I still use it.

Because it's based on how it's encoded and meant to display based on the make/encode of the DVD itself, based on how devices display it, not deciding for yourself if something was done properly or not.

I've seen nothing that makes me go 'oh man, I've been wrong this whole time'

[ect5150]

Yes! Exactly!
I remember people used to hawk on "640x480 or it's not a good screencap," but they were wrong!

Frankly, I still use it.

Because it's based on how it's encoded and meant to display based on the make/encode of the DVD itself, based on how devices display it, not deciding for yourself if something was done properly or not.

I've seen nothing that makes me go 'oh man, I've been wrong this whole time'

To be fair to the whole argument, the difference in the "proper way" and "improper way" is so small - like 2% or 3% in the image - most of us would have to look for it.

[SupremeSSJ]

We should take this to FUNimation's forum, maybe we can get a answer from someone. They redone the site if anyone didn't know.

[Martinrock]

We should take this to FUNimation's forum, maybe we can get a answer from someone. They redone the site if anyone didn't know.

It is a good idea if there were volunteers.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

We should take this to FUNimation's forum, maybe we can get a answer from someone. They redone the site if anyone didn't know.

It is a good idea if there were volunteers.

He meant "no"

[SupremeSSJ]

I'll start a topic in FUNi's forum. What questions should I ask beside aspect ratio?

[KingofWisdom]

Well, the only real mysteries are how the remastering will look and how cropping will be handled when half of someone's head is at risk of being cut out.

[Fizzer]

You should ask for a comparison to other releases in terms of grain and colour

[qjz123]

I was looking at the Dragon ball z season 1 blu ray on amazon and the description has changed it no longer says that the release is being converted to 16:9 it just says "For the first time ever, the Dragon Ball Z season sets are available on Blu-ray!" http://www.amazon.com/Dragonball-Z-Seas ... f_cr_p_d_1

[KingofWisdom]

Must be in response to the negative reviews.

[Kendamu]

As much as it's been pre-ordered with the description intact, I doubt it's been due to negative reviews. Maybe we can hope that it isn't 16:9, but I really doubt that we'll be getting a 4:3 release.

[qjz123]

Must be in response to the negative reviews.

Couldn't they just have amazon remove those bad reviews or all of the reviews since the product hasn't been released yet.

[KingofWisdom]

It would be an interesting development if the sets aren't actually 16:9, but no, I don't think that's the case. I don't want to get my hopes up. The reviews are still more positive than negative, and negative reviews don't necessarily affect sales. For every one person that listens, ten more people will ignorantly throw their money at it. The fact that Adam Sandler has a career is proof of that.

[penguintruth]

If I'm not mistaken, Japan divides series into intervals every 26 episodes (it may be 13, I don't remember) and it ends up being something like their equivalent to "seasons" in America. I think Julian gave this a name in one of the podcast episodes, though I don't remember what it was. Anyways, I think this is why Funimation uses the term "season" for collections of 26 episodes, save for non-Kai DB releases. So outside of non-Kai DB stuff, I think their use of the term "season" is somewhat justified.

They're called "cours" in Japan and usually run to twelve or thirteen episodes. But Dragon Ball has never really had "cours".

Back in the 90s a lot of shows had 26 episodes.

[Kendamu]

It would be funny if, in a strange twist, their cheaper remastering process was merely color-correcting the DBox.

[eledoremassis02]

Just talked to Amazon, and this is what the guy said

Amazon:Thank you for waiting.
I checked and see that this item is available in 1.33:1(4:3) aspect ration only.

This is different from what they told me on the 20th of September.

Me:In product details, the items says it's 4:3 aspect ratio but the editorial reveiw says 16x9
Amazon:I understand and I have checked that the 16:9 aspect ratio definition ration of the movie.