"Dragon Ball Super" Bang Zoom Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:56 am

Listening to it again, Mai DEFINITELY sounds like a filtered Nadolny. The rasp and scratchiness that she puts into her Kid Goku and Kid Gohan voices is there but at a higher pitch. It's funny seeing as Colleen Clinkenbeard is Mai in the FUNi dub of Super and she's the current voice of Kid Goku and Kid Gohan
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Post by ProjectAlpha22 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:10 pm

DB Super Episode 4 Notes

I'm sleep-deprived, so don't expect my normal constructive critiques.

Script- Do I need to even say this anymore?

Narrator- Dude, seriously, get out of the booth, Trunks!

Kaio- I love him, he's like a sober Rick and that's wonderful.

Goku- Lex, the yells, I can't take it anymore. Stop holding back! I'm also starting to doubt the direction of the character from the director, as you articulate as Goku similar to a scholar. Goku is no scholar, he's a hillbilly.

Android 18- 10/10

Bulma- 10/10

Chi-Chi- Why are all the female characters amazingly acted?

Krillin- it's official, he sucks. He sounds like someone who has no discipline, almost jock-like. I just can't get behind that voice.

Trunks -She has stayed so consistent that no problems in her voice have shown up! Good on ya, Ms. Mendez!

Goten- I get a real "50's Astro Boy" vibe, and I'm not sure if I like it yet. Little Nasally, too.

Mai- It's Nadolny with a Voice Modifier? It sounds like Nadolny, with a voice modifier. Even if it isn't Nadolny, there is almost definitely voice modifier involved and it's distracting.

Pilaf- It sounds like FUNi Pilaf, and you know I'm okay with that.

Dog- I can't even remember the Dog's name, and the voice actor does nothing to help me care to remember it. I'm sorry, I have nothing to say on him, I just don't like the voice. This one isn't constructive, I guess it's just personal opinion.

Script Part 2- I miss the Big Green, at least it was bad and funny.

Vegeta- See, he gets the grunts. Listen to those, a bit held back, but at-least there is some oomph. I also have to say that Kaiji Tang has gone on record saying that he took criticisms of his voice to heart and made sure to address those flaws. Unfortunately, due to what episode he was recording when Episode 1 aired, we won't be able to hear his corrections until episode 11-12.

Goku (Cont.) -"...KAHHHHMEUUUUHHEEEEERHHHHMEEEEEEEHHUAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" Lex, buddy? Are, are you having a stroke? I mean, even phonetically that isn't right, that's just a straight up mispronunciation. I'm gonna chalk that up to the Director, just as I am almost positive someone had to have told you to pronounce it like that.

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Next Episode sinks or floats with Lex's Goku for me. If he can't pull off the yells, then this episode will fall flat. If he can, however, Lex will have seriously proven many of us wrong. I'm rooting for him, I want him to show us he can be Goku!
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:34 pm

The more I hear of King Kai the more I think of Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty. I don't know why, but it just works so well. But then again, Rick and Morty is my favourite animated show of all time. I'm quite mixed on the Pilaf Gang's VA's. I really can't stand how raspy and deep Pilaf is and as others have noted, Mai sounds a lot like Nadolny's Goku/Gohan with a modifier. Shu is actually the most fitting of all the voices. That really doesn't bode well. I've also soured on Krillin with the more I've heard from him. This episode has also confirmed by biggest fear with Lex Lang's Goku... he can't yell or scream to save his life. The "Kamehameha" from Goku sounded like he was constipated. This is going to make his later fights scene, of which there are many, sound incredibly weird with Goku shouting sounding so half-hearted. But the biggest issue with the dub is the literal copy-cut-paste job done with the script. This is seriously limiting the parameter of the voice actors and just makes the voice acting sound so awkward. Goku, Vegeat and King Kai suffer the greatest from this problem with the direction. This dub needs a major shake-up in the directional department of this dub will be forever considered sub-standard at best. But despite all this... Wendee Lee continues to deliver the goods with Bulma. God bless her. What a talented and versatile VA she is. She is the major saving grace of this whole dub.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:10 pm

First of all, Bang Zoom needs a better scriptwriter.

What's with all the rasp on the narrator all of a sudden?

Mai sounds like Nadolny, Shuu sounds good, Pilaf sounds like Funi.

Lee's Bulma and McConnohie's Kaio still rock.

Goten and Trunks still sound good.

Krillin is okay.

Android 18 and Chi-Chi are good.

Vegeta still needs improvement.

Lang as Goku still continues to disappoint me. And that Kamehameha was terrible. What was the director thinking when she cast him? There were actors who could have done better.
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:14 pm

Pilaf is most definitely Tom Fahn. Heard around that it's Julie Maddalena as Mai.
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Post by ProjectAlpha22 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:23 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:The more I hear of King Kai the more I think of Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty. I don't know why, but it just works so well. But then again, Rick and Morty is my favourite animated show of all time. I'm quite mixed on the Pilaf Gang's VA's. I really can't stand how raspy and deep Pilaf is and as others have noted, Mai sounds a lot like Nadolny's Goku/Gohan with a modifier. Shu is actually the most fitting of all the voices. That really doesn't bode well. I've also soured on Krillin with the more I've heard from him. This episode has also confirmed by biggest fear with Lex Lang's Goku... he can't yell or scream to save his life. The "Kamehameha" from Goku sounded like he was constipated. This is going to make his later fights scene, of which there are many, sound incredibly weird with Goku shouting sounding so half-hearted. But the biggest issue with the dub is the literal copy-cut-paste job done with the script. This is seriously limiting the parameter of the voice actors and just makes the voice acting sound so awkward. Goku, Vegeat and King Kai suffer the greatest from this problem with the direction. This dub needs a major shake-up in the directional department of this dub will be forever considered sub-standard at best. But despite all this... Wendee Lee continues to deliver the goods with Bulma. God bless her. What a talented and versatile VA she is. She is the major saving grace of this whole dub.
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Post by LexVO » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:08 pm

ProjectAlpha22 wrote:
ConfusedPhantom wrote:The script is really, really awkward. It's way too literal. They should've spent a bit more time making it more varied and natural. It's really messing with everyone's performances.

Still loving Michael McConnohie. Really wish he was the narrator instead. The narrator is just going a little nuts with that rasp. There's no heft to his performance. Lex Lang's getting better. He's bringing out a bit more energy this time. But, I wish the director let him go a bit more nuts with his foley. I like that Kuririn's voice is smoother. The Pilaf gang sounded pretty good. But both Kaioshin sounded pretty awkward. #18's delivery is too normal, but she has a nice voice. And, I'm really disappointed that nearly every character that Sabat voiced is an impersonation. : / Each and every one of the actors they cast would have more potential using their own voices.
ProjectAlpha22 wrote: Goku- He gets the character, I've said this time and time again, but his voice is too low for my tastes, and his yells are waaaaaay too held back. Although, Lex, if Sonic ever needs a new actor, I totally think you should go for it (don't take that as an insult, I'm dead serious!).
Both Lex and Roger are good actors, but I don't know. I think they're far too old for Sonic. Acting-wise, Roger's really good. But, there were times that Sonic just sounded like Knuckles. He fits the Boom design more, though.
I mean, I really think he could pull it off if we gave him a shot, which especially after how much of a dick he was (he's gone now, I can say that right?) is something I find hard to say.
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Post by DrBriefsCat » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:51 pm

Is the Toonami Asia airing unedited for content, like the Adult Swim one has been so far?

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:05 pm

I hate to say it but this dub is honestly starting to feel like a drag to me, there's good actors but the direction just isn't there. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to keep up with it.

The Funimation dub is so much better produced that the fact it falls behind next week won't even matter.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:27 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I hate to say it but this dub is honestly starting to feel like a drag to me, there's good actors but the direction just isn't there. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to keep up with it.

The Funimation dub is so much better produced that the fact it falls behind next week won't even matter.
I'm just pretty much skipping segments and seeing how certain scenes are being handled. I can now say with confidence that Beerus was miscast, that beginning exchange was awful, so much character should be shown in Beerus from that exchange but we get nothing here from BZ dub.

BZ have only just started on 10 so I'd predict we'll probably get repeats soon so FUNi will probably catch up soon enough anyway.
DrBriefsCat wrote:Is the Toonami Asia airing unedited for content, like the Adult Swim one has been so far?
Nope. Usual kids TV censoring Herucle, no dirty jokes and cutting all the rude stuff like Roshi perving. Unfortunately there won't be an uncut dub for this.

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:06 pm

Oddly enough though, mild swear words like "damn" and "hell" have been kept in
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Post by ProjectAlpha22 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:17 am

LexVO wrote:
ProjectAlpha22 wrote:
ConfusedPhantom wrote:The script is really, really awkward. It's way too literal. They should've spent a bit more time making it more varied and natural. It's really messing with everyone's performances.

Still loving Michael McConnohie. Really wish he was the narrator instead. The narrator is just going a little nuts with that rasp. There's no heft to his performance. Lex Lang's getting better. He's bringing out a bit more energy this time. But, I wish the director let him go a bit more nuts with his foley. I like that Kuririn's voice is smoother. The Pilaf gang sounded pretty good. But both Kaioshin sounded pretty awkward. #18's delivery is too normal, but she has a nice voice. And, I'm really disappointed that nearly every character that Sabat voiced is an impersonation. : / Each and every one of the actors they cast would have more potential using their own voices.


Both Lex and Roger are good actors, but I don't know. I think they're far too old for Sonic. Acting-wise, Roger's really good. But, there were times that Sonic just sounded like Knuckles. He fits the Boom design more, though.
I mean, I really think he could pull it off if we gave him a shot, which especially after how much of a dick he was (he's gone now, I can say that right?) is something I find hard to say.
name calling is never nice. but thanks, I guess.
Calling us all a bunch of 15-25 year olds without evolved thinking isn't nice either, Lex. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in itself is a sort of name-calling. Aaaanywho, welcome back again.
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Post by jelleline89 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:09 am

ProjectAlpha22 wrote:
LexVO wrote:
ProjectAlpha22 wrote:
I mean, I really think he could pull it off if we gave him a shot, which especially after how much of a dick he was (he's gone now, I can say that right?) is something I find hard to say.
name calling is never nice. but thanks, I guess.
Calling us all a bunch of 15-25 year olds without evolved thinking isn't nice either, Lex. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in itself is a sort of name-calling. Aaaanywho, welcome back again.
Sigh... Let's see how long he sticks around this time.

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Post by hulkedoutdude » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:44 am

Come On guys wtf!!! Even the guy who he had tuff with moved on, why are you guys bringing up old forgotten things again and again and provoking him?? Do you guys want to turn this forum into battle arena between fans and VA's or what??

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Post by Puto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:15 am

So, assuming that really is Nadolny, this means this dub now has:
- TWO returning VAs from the Harmony Gold cast (Wendee Lee and Michael McConnohie).
- A returning VA from the Final Bout cast (Lex Lang).
- A returning VA from the FUNimation cast (Stephanie Nadolny).

Now we just need a returning VA from the Ocean cast and one from the Blue Water cast for this to feature returning members of all the North American DB casts (I'm not counting the Big Green and Malaysian English dubs of the movies).
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:40 am

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:Oddly enough though, mild swear words like "damn" and "hell" have been kept in
That's interesting. Maybe those words mean less in these days? I remember when the Shadow the Hedgehog game came out and it had an increased rating and a separate warning from PEGI about Bad Language. As a kid I was excited swearing in a Sonic game it's gonna be so cool!! I remember playing through it and didn't notice anything then found out it was only for when Shadow says damn when he died haha. As a kid growing up "damn" was never considered a bad word, I'd get scolded at by teachers and parents for saying "bloody" but never for saying "damn".

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Post by sangofe » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:32 pm

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Post by LexVO » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:42 pm

jelleline89 wrote:
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LexVO wrote:
name calling is never nice. but thanks, I guess.
Calling us all a bunch of 15-25 year olds without evolved thinking isn't nice either, Lex. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in itself is a sort of name-calling. Aaaanywho, welcome back again.
Sigh... Let's see how long he sticks around this time.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Yeah, I definitely think Mai is Nadolny. The same exact inflections and line deliveries, and the scene where they were all crying was a dead giveaway.
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Post by G1Ravage » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:30 pm

Mai is Julie Maddalena. Almost certain on that. I'm not hearing Nadolny at all.

The Bang Zoom! dub is using Shuu, while the FUNimation dub for some reason reverted back to using Shou.

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