"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[precita]

Freeza will probably escape into space. He's not going to willingly go back into Hell in his cocoon.

[Professor Freeza]

If there is one thing that I'd file under major bummer when it comes to DBS ending in 8 episodes is Freeza's role will most likely not amount to anything. I was really hoping it would result in him either planning something that would result in more mayhem and once again consolidate his status as the franchise's most prevalent antagonist or be forced to coexist in an uneasy alliance with the main cast after the TOP ends. I don't want a scrambled redemption that can be wrapped up in one or two episodes, out of all unbelievable turn of events, this would be the most ludicrous. At most, I'd settle for reluctant respect for Goku, but that's about it.

He died twice to the saiyans. He already respects them enough, out of fear.

[dbs fanboy]

Compared to original run up to eoz where it felt they actually tackled the biggest and baddest reality had to offer, there's still so many unused elements still present in the current expansion, it's bizzare super's ending so suddenly, especially because it's not confirmed to be a hiatus, having it all end like this would be... such a waste..

That's basically, one of the reasons that i have to be confident about db coming back in the future. This is not like back then when Toriyama didn't knew how to create stronger characters.
Beerus hasn't been actually surpassed, Jiren could easily remain the strongest after this arc ends and then you have the other gods, other angels, and hell the four universes that didn't have to compete in the ToP. There's also the fact, that characters like Kale or Caulifla could get stronger really easily and pretty fast, so you can write stories with those characters as well.

Freeza will probably escape into space. He's not going to willingly go back into Hell in his cocoon.

I can see Goku actually keeping his promise if Freeza helps them in the climax and doesn't bertray them, after all, this would only mean that our battle whore warrior would have other toy to play with, so why not?

[Michsi]

If there is one thing that I'd file under major bummer when it comes to DBS ending in 8 episodes is Freeza's role will most likely not amount to anything. I was really hoping it would result in him either planning something that would result in more mayhem and once again consolidate his status as the franchise's most prevalent antagonist or be forced to coexist in an uneasy alliance with the main cast after the TOP ends. I don't want a scrambled redemption that can be wrapped up in one or two episodes, out of all unbelievable turn of events, this would be the most ludicrous. At most, I'd settle for reluctant respect for Goku, but that's about it.

He died twice to the saiyans. He already respects them enough, out of fear.

I mean genuine respect, as in "I tip my hat to you, you bastard." Fear based respect, isn't true respect IMO.

Another way I could see this go is him acknowledging a sense of belonging when it comes to U7, since his recruitment episode made a point to show he had no attachment to his universe at all. It's not sudden affection for his home or loyalty to his team and gods, but more along the lines of pride in his origin which makes him want U7 to win.

[Professor Freeza]

If there is one thing that I'd file under major bummer when it comes to DBS ending in 8 episodes is Freeza's role will most likely not amount to anything. I was really hoping it would result in him either planning something that would result in more mayhem and once again consolidate his status as the franchise's most prevalent antagonist or be forced to coexist in an uneasy alliance with the main cast after the TOP ends. I don't want a scrambled redemption that can be wrapped up in one or two episodes, out of all unbelievable turn of events, this would be the most ludicrous. At most, I'd settle for reluctant respect for Goku, but that's about it.

He died twice to the saiyans. He already respects them enough, out of fear.

I mean genuine respect, as in "I tip my hat to you, you bastard." Fear based respect, isn't true respect IMO.

Another way I could see this go is him acknowledging a sense of belonging when it comes to U7, since his recruitment episode made a point to show he had no attachment to his universe at all. It's not sudden affection for his home or loyalty to his team and gods, but more along the lines of pride in his origin which makes him want U7 to win.

Ya no. Cant see any of that sort happening.

[Michsi]

He died twice to the saiyans. He already respects them enough, out of fear.

I mean genuine respect, as in "I tip my hat to you, you bastard." Fear based respect, isn't true respect IMO.

Another way I could see this go is him acknowledging a sense of belonging when it comes to U7, since his recruitment episode made a point to show he had no attachment to his universe at all. It's not sudden affection for his home or loyalty to his team and gods, but more along the lines of pride in his origin which makes him want U7 to win.

Ya no. Cant see any of that sort happening.

I'm kinda hoping it doesn't, since the only way I'd be happy with any type of heel-face turn coming from him is if it was slowly built over time, like in Vegeta's case. Super can still surprise me and somehow sell it better than expected, a la episode 95m, but I doubt it.
I'm really curious what they'll do with Freeza,

[Nickolaidas]

Freeza will probably escape into space. He's not going to willingly go back into Hell in his cocoon.

Yeah ... doesn't work that way. As long as he's dead, that's where he'll be going, whether he likes it, or not.

[precita]

Freeza will probably escape into space. He's not going to willingly go back into Hell in his cocoon.

Yeah ... doesn't work that way. As long as he's dead, that's where he'll be going, whether he likes it, or not.

He'll probably be revived.

[BlueBasilisk]

Frieza can become the arch foe of the Pride Troopers. That way they can keep him around but there's someone to keep him in check so he doesn't shit up the universe.

[Gt91]

Well, it's sad that super is ending but i think that they'll continue with something new in the next years.
There are too many ideas that need to become reality (other universes, planet salada,kale or caulifla ss3,future trunks new family, UI vegeta, angel fight ecc).
I would like to see a super sequel or a spin off based on DB Heroes/DB online/xenoverse story (kids that become warriors in the game, level up and fight new fighters/fusions ecc).

[DasMuse]

Seiji Nakazawa at Rocket News 24 asked Fuji TV about Super ending. Not really any new information, but it reiterates that it really is ending for now at least, and that beyond that is still undecided.

From herms -




So yeah, it's not a hiatus as many continue to keep believing, it really is ending and it's happening this March..

Obviously it MUST be a hiatus. There’s absolutely zero point in “ENDING” this series for good. It makes absolutely ZERO sense considering dragon ball super’s infinite potential for story building. There’s still so much things we haven’t seen yet and story points that have to be covered. It would be foolish for them to officially end it for good.

I don’t understand what happened to Toei. Whats going on in their heads right now all of a sudden. Did they get possessed or hit their head? Did something else happen to them? Because i’m telling you NO SANE company would throw away a series that makes A LOT of money and has infinite potential! The fact that they are so fucking cruel and not-optimistic by saying it ends and there are not even plans for a return is something that is absolutely ridiculous and unbelievable.

Yes i am MAD. And any other sane dragon ball fan should be too.

This is an incredibly criminal and unnacceptable stunt by Toei. And what’s even far worse is the fact that they DIDN’T EVEN PROVIDE ANY REASONS!

I mirror your frustration. I've had a cloud over me since I first started reading about this and it feels like I was just given the news that my best friend has 2 months to live... I've been trying to hard to find slivers of something to stay optimistic about but my mind is still reeling from the wasted potential If this series really ends with a 4 year time skip to meet up with EoZ. I know there are quite a few haters of DBS, but this series has been pretty much exactly what I expected a sequel to DBZ (yes I know it takes place before EoZ) to be in the sense that they continued to expand on Goku's relationship to the gods. Where as GT just kinda flailed around aimlessly. There is still so much more they could do with DBS, to end it so suddenly is sickening to me and seems downright asinine. Sure they could pick it up after EoZ, but why waste that opportunity to expand on the other universes and ultra instinct? I don't even think it would need that many more episodes to give it proper closure. Maybe 30-50 more depending on how they would handle another arc or two. Either way, I don't foresee myself being satisfied with whatever closure we'd get in only 8 more episodes.

I'm not a praying man, but I do hope beyond hope that this does just end up being somewhat of a hiatus to do the movie and regain their bearings to end the series properly.

[Saiga]

Honestly, I have no idea what Freeza could even do that would make his role satisfying. He shouldn't do anything to overshadow Jiren as the antagonist, and he shouldn't be redeemed. I think just sticking him back in hell is a better idea than trying to make something of him coming back, and they shouldn't have brought him back to begin with.

[Nickolaidas]

My secret hope is that now that they've seen how successful Super was, they'll end this series and continue with a new one, one backed by a much bigger budget and bigger staff.

[Noah]

Goku: (serious face) ...
Frieza: (serious face) ...
Goku: So what's going to happen now?
Frieza: ... Until we meet again, monkey. (turns around and flies away)
Goku: (watches Frieza flying away, and after a few seconds, uses IT. Appears in front of Frieza, causing him to stop in his tracks)
Frieza: ... what is it?
Goku: (serious face) ... (stands still, after a few seconds, offers his hand to Frieza for a handshake, basically asking him to end this long-time feud of theirs)
Frieza: ! (is genuinely surprised)
(both warriors are floating, there is no movement)
(a close up of Frieza's hand, his fingers are slightly twitching, as if about to move)
(Frieza regains his composure, smirks and closes his eyes) Always the fool. I guess that's what makes you Son Goku. (flies past him)
Goku: (lowers his head, closes his eyes and smiles) ... was worth a shot. (uses IT and disappears, scene ends)

You're expecting too much from Toei writers, mate.

[buutenks]

The Super part of DB is ending. But, new series and movies will arrive. Since it is making money.

[Xeogran]

Goku: (serious face) ...
Frieza: (serious face) ...
Goku: So what's going to happen now?
Frieza: ... Until we meet again, monkey. (turns around and flies away)
Goku: (watches Frieza flying away, and after a few seconds, uses IT. Appears in front of Frieza, causing him to stop in his tracks)
Frieza: ... what is it?
Goku: (serious face) ... (stands still, after a few seconds, offers his hand to Frieza for a handshake, basically asking him to end this long-time feud of theirs)
Frieza: ! (is genuinely surprised)
(both warriors are floating, there is no movement)
(a close up of Frieza's hand, his fingers are slightly twitching, as if about to move)
(Frieza regains his composure, smirks and closes his eyes) Always the fool. I guess that's what makes you Son Goku. (flies past him)
Goku: (lowers his head, closes his eyes and smiles) ... was worth a shot. (uses IT and disappears, scene ends)

You're expecting too much from Toei writers, mate.

Nah, just put Mr. Toshio in charge and watch miracles happen. His slipping scene was too perfect

[SonReggie]

Theres word on Vegetto making an appearance in this arc too?

It would make sense. I mean, even at their full power (overlooking Goku's UI for the moment) Vegeta and Goku are not proving to be THAT much of a problem to Jiren. And Jiren is apparently not even out of first gear yet.

[FortuneSSJ]

It's hard for me to get hyped for the next episodes, when it's confirmed the ride is gonna end soon.

[GodVegetto91]

Seiji Nakazawa at Rocket News 24 asked Fuji TV about Super ending. Not really any new information, but it reiterates that it really is ending for now at least, and that beyond that is still undecided.

From herms -




So yeah, it's not a hiatus as many continue to keep believing, it really is ending and it's happening this March..

Obviously it MUST be a hiatus. There’s absolutely zero point in “ENDING” this series for good. It makes absolutely ZERO sense considering dragon ball super’s infinite potential for story building. There’s still so much things we haven’t seen yet and story points that have to be covered. It would be foolish for them to officially end it for good.

I don’t understand what happened to Toei. Whats going on in their heads right now all of a sudden. Did they get possessed or hit their head? Did something else happen to them? Because i’m telling you NO SANE company would throw away a series that makes A LOT of money and has infinite potential! The fact that they are so fucking cruel and not-optimistic by saying it ends and there are not even plans for a return is something that is absolutely ridiculous and unbelievable.

Yes i am MAD. And any other sane dragon ball fan should be too.

This is an incredibly criminal and unnacceptable stunt by Toei. And what’s even far worse is the fact that they DIDN’T EVEN PROVIDE ANY REASONS!

I mirror your frustration. I've had a cloud over me since I first started reading about this and it feels like I was just given the news that my best friend has 2 months to live... I've been trying to hard to find slivers of something to stay optimistic about but my mind is still reeling from the wasted potential If this series really ends with a 4 year time skip to meet up with EoZ. I know there are quite a few haters of DBS, but this series has been pretty much exactly what I expected a sequel to DBZ (yes I know it takes place before EoZ) to be in the sense that they continued to expand on Goku's relationship to the gods. Where as GT just kinda flailed around aimlessly. There is still so much more they could do with DBS, to end it so suddenly is sickening to me and seems downright asinine. Sure they could pick it up after EoZ, but why waste that opportunity to expand on the other universes and ultra instinct? I don't even think it would need that many more episodes to give it proper closure. Maybe 30-50 more depending on how they would handle another arc or two. Either way, I don't foresee myself being satisfied with whatever closure we'd get in only 8 more episodes.

I'm not a praying man, but I do hope beyond hope that this does just end up being somewhat of a hiatus to do the movie and regain their bearings to end the series properly.

The point is that i just CAN’T believe it. I’m not buying the idea that Super is going to end for good. I am almost 100% certain that the story from the climax of the TOP arc WILL continue sooner or later. That’s my bet. And people can disagree with me all they want, but i’m just damn near certain that the story WILL continue at some point in the future. Because it would make NO sense otherwise.

[CJStriker_CBR]

The point is that i just CAN’T believe it. I’m not buying the idea that Super is going to end for good. I am almost 100% certain that the story from the climax of the TOP arc WILL continue sooner or later. That’s my bet. And people can disagree with me all they want, but i’m just damn near certain that the story WILL continue at some point in the future. Because it would make NO sense otherwise.

I indeed Believe it will continue as well and it really it not hard to believe it will. The show might have a New Name like DBZ went to DBS, but it still be the Same Story continuing off from where it left off. Name changes are superficial as just a cover for a set of stories told. It is easy to believe the show will continues with the same characters cause it is their highest grossing show and the Movie is just going to add more flavor to the mythos of dragon ball.

So for toei to be still make a Movie for a show or series they might not do anymore I can't see happening. Even if they said a series of Movies to keep it going I don't see that either cause it is not as impactful as what a series does.

What Toei is saying here is just they don't have a plane yet for the next series and don't want to say anything until they do, not much to get worried about IMO.