"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Doctor.]

You can say this about anything but the fact of the matter is,Vegeta was the one who did it.

Wasn't he the one who told Goku to use the Genki dama ?

Wait a couple of seconds and someone else would have done the same.

He did but let us not pretend Goku wouldn't have the same idea when he had used the Genkidama twice before. Vegeta could have helped kill Boo much fasted if he had just wished for Gohan instead.

And yet none of the other characters did, (Well except for the dumb anime which just trying to make them not look absolutely worthless). He also helped give Goku time against Buu, and what gives you so much confidence Gohan or Gotenks could've destroyed Kid Buu for good?

The other characters not doing it doesn't matter. It's like saying Piccolo was useful for killing that last Saibaiman when literally anyone else, besides Gohan, could have done it. Or saying Yajirobe was useful when he killed Cymbal, yet Goku was right there. What makes a character useful is being one of the few, or the only one, to be able to do something others can't.

The fact that they're both stronger than Goku and Boo.

[Ushabtis]

wasn't vegeta seriously tired/wounded fighting kid buu? he was wished back to life with the dragon balls iirc. He couldn't even go super saiyan against Kid Buu in that final parts of the fight. Personally i think Gohan would have been a much better choice. Since Gohan is at SSJ 3 Goku strength level. Gotenks needs to fusion, doubt kid buu would let them have the time to do the dance. and the whole spirit bomb was vegeta's plan... I think Goku would eventually thought of that idea.

but who knows. Buu saga felt like mess that didn't know which way to go to me.

[pacz360]

quote="Doctor."]

Vegeta has never done ONE useful thing in the series, so what's your point here?

Getting Cell&Buu killed isn't useful ?

Any character could have done the same he did against Cell, and he wasn't the one who got Boo killed...?[/quote]


And yet none of the other characters did, (Well except for the dumb anime which just trying to make them not look absolutely worthless). He also helped give Goku time against Buu, and what gives you so much confidence Gohan or Gotenks could've destroyed Kid Buu for good?[/quote]
Both gohan and gotenks were stronger than goku or vegeta and fought a much stronger version of buu as long they don't fuck around this time kid buu would be gone.

[sintzu]

Wait a couple of seconds and someone else would have done the same.

He did but let us not pretend Goku wouldn't have the same idea when he had used the Genkidama twice before.

This is what would've happened if they waited a couple of seconds :

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en ... tml#h_read

Goku was hesitant about using it when Vegeta told him to so obviously it wasn't on his mind.

[Retan]

No the only thing that was going to destroy Buu was the Genki Dama, both already had there shot and they failed. you can light Kid Buu up all you want he's still coming back, or Vegeta's original plan would've destroyed the sucker for good.

[Doctor.]

No the only thing that was going to destroy Buu was the Genki Dama, both already had there shot and they failed.

And both were ridiculously close to finish the job until the fusion wore off and Gotenks got absorbed. What do you think would happen against a much weaker version of Boo, plus with Goku and Vegeta's help?

I prefer seeing a Genkidama then just having Gohan or Gotenks one-shotting Boo, but let's be real here.

[Retan]

No the only thing that was going to destroy Buu was the Genki Dama, both already had there shot and they failed.

And both were ridiculously close to finish the job until the fusion wore off and Gotenks got absorbed. What do you think would happen against a much weaker version of Boo, plus with Goku and Vegeta's help?

I prefer seeing a Genkidama then just having Gohan or Gotenks one-shotting Boo, but let's be real here.

There not smart fighters I thought we understood that, so let's be real hear, they may have thought they were going to finish him off, but they weren't.

[sintzu]

What do you think would happen against a much weaker version of Boo, plus with Goku and Vegeta's help ?

He would've kept regenerating until they couldn't fight any more.

[TheGmGoken]

What do you think would happen against a much weaker version of Boo, plus with Goku and Vegeta's help ?

He would've kept regenerating until they couldn't fight any more.

Or they could do what Vegetto did to Boo and just beat him until regeneration doesn't workwork. You don't need ki attacks for that.

[Retan]

What do you think would happen against a much weaker version of Boo, plus with Goku and Vegeta's help ?

He would've kept regenerating until they couldn't fight any more.

Or they could do what Vegetto did to Boo and just beat him until regeneration doesn't workwork. You don't need ki attacks for that.

How do we know what works against Gotenks Gohan Buu, would work against Kid Buu. Bottom line is Doctor said Vegeta was useless, but that makes everyone else who it doesn't work for useless too including Veggeto.

[Cursemark505]

That's

No it doesn't. Like I said, Vegeta has consistently been one of the strongest and he has done NOTHING useful in the series thus far.

Bulma doesn't even fight and she's the most useful character besides Goku.

Vegeta has been useful, even if it was just a little bit. He was the reason Gohan defeated Cell.
He does get screentime due to his power, but it never amounts to anything because the arcs wouldn't exist as we know them if he didn't make idiotic decisions.

[Retan]

That's

No it doesn't. Like I said, Vegeta has consistently been one of the strongest and he has done NOTHING useful in the series thus far.

Bulma doesn't even fight and she's the most useful character besides Goku.

Vegeta has been useful, even if it was just a little bit. He was the reason Gohan defeated Cell.
He does get screentime due to his power, but it never amounts to anything because the arcs wouldn't exist as we know them if he didn't make idiotic decisions.

Well put, and like I said earlier Ego is something that seems to grow with power, Gohan and even Goku have proven there not above this. Indstead of saying Vegeta's an idiot, we should be thanking him for making the series more interesting.

[Doctor.]

Well put, and like I said earlier Ego is something that seems to grow with power, Gohan and even Goku have proven there not above this. Indstead of saying Vegeta's an idiot, we should be thanking him for making the series more interesting.

Who's saying Vegeta's an idiot or that he didn't make the series interesting?

I'm saying he's almost entirely useless, something that's completely true.

[Retan]

Well put, and like I said earlier Ego is something that seems to grow with power, Gohan and even Goku have proven there not above this. Indstead of saying Vegeta's an idiot, we should be thanking him for making the series more interesting.

Who's saying Vegeta's an idiot or that he didn't make the series interesting?

I'm saying he's almost entirely useless, something that's completely true.

He saved Gohan and Kuririn from Guldo, and Goku from Golden Freeza, who later saved the world.

[Avenged]

He also saved Goku from Android 19, helped everyone during the fight with Freeza

[Ushabtis]

I'm confused...whats the debate now?
-Vegeta useless/no he's not
-Kid Buu could only be defeated by Spirit bomb/no Buu could be defeated differently
-Fighters not Goku and Vegeta in the Buu saga with strength (Gohan/Gotenks) are useless inexperienced fighters, so they could never beat Kid Buu no matter how much stronger they are than Buu.
-Everything character's name here could have been done by some other character's name here to beat the bad guy
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In super i hope we get a group ki blast similar to 'Broly's second coming" movie but with all the z fighters/saiyans/good guys to beat a villain.

[PrinceVegetto]

Can't wait for Saturday night! I'm expecting the first episode to cover a little bit more than what was covered in the manga's first chapter. And hopefully by the time Super shows what happens after RoF, we finally get an older looking Goten & Trunks

[Hellspawn28]

Vegeta is useful. Without him, everyone have died on Namek or afterwards. The debate on saying that he never been useful is silly.

[Tennessaiyan]

Vegeta is useful. Without him, everyone have died on Namek or afterwards. The debate on saying that he never been useful is silly.

Can't agree more with that.

So, is Toei still doing the countdown thing? I haven't been keeping up with the news as much this week.

[sintzu]

So, is Toei still doing the countdown thing? I haven't been keeping up with the news as much this week.

Yeah,the next one should be out in a few hours.