In DBZ, nobody ever knew about Dabura or Babidi until the fight between Majin Buu and SSJ3 Goku, and in this timeline Majin Buu never wakened up so probably nobody noticed about this,jplaya2023 wrote:just read the chapter, and i'm kinda confused.
How long until after he killed the androids to when black attacks? roughly 15 years right? How come there still newspapers talking about android defeat? Wouldn't the papers speak about dabura and babidee being defeated?
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I think it's just an anniversary article. You can see this word under "War is Over".jplaya2023 wrote:just read the chapter, and i'm kinda confused.
How long until after he killed the androids to when black attacks? roughly 15 years right? How come there still newspapers talking about android defeat? Wouldn't the papers speak about dabura and babidee being defeated?
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Twelve years, to be exact. The androids were defeated in AGE 785 and Trunks traveled to the past in AGE 797.jplaya2023 wrote:How long until after he killed the androids to when black attacks? roughly 15 years right? How come there still newspapers talking about android defeat? Wouldn't the papers speak about dabura and babidee being defeated?
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We dont know if Dabura was defeated , maybe its a Toei thing?
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Trunks beat Cell in age 788, not 785.Grimlock wrote:Twelve years, to be exact. The androids were defeated in AGE 785 and Trunks traveled to the past in AGE 797.jplaya2023 wrote:How long until after he killed the androids to when black attacks? roughly 15 years right? How come there still newspapers talking about android defeat? Wouldn't the papers speak about dabura and babidee being defeated?
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And while Cell is an android, I wasn't referring to him. The androids were defeated three years before Cell.
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Artificial Humans #17 & #18 were defeated when Trunks returned from the Cell Games though. Cell was likely an unknown threat to the public since he would have only been "birthed" recently, so there's no reason to include him in that.dbgtFO wrote:Trunks beat Cell in age 788, not 785.
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Ah of course, got a bit too ahead of my self there!
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I have this feeling that the Future Trunks saga is going to be really short when we get to it in the manga due to the time it takes to do one chapter. I give it ten chapters and that'll be it.
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This chapter was really good. Even just by looking at the pictures it did flow nicely and set the appropriate tone.
The teacher part is surely a gag so I'm not sure why people think it is unwarranted. Sure, talking about time travel and parallel worlds might seem forced but in Dragon Ball's case it doesn't matter, it can get away with it.
The teacher part is surely a gag so I'm not sure why people think it is unwarranted. Sure, talking about time travel and parallel worlds might seem forced but in Dragon Ball's case it doesn't matter, it can get away with it.
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It's possible. I found it quite weird that there was even a need to mention Boo. It didn't happened originally because most of humanity was dead, so no energy(right?). Even if twenty(?) years passed the population should still be small. It feels forced, maybe to ease people who still wonder about Boo in Trunks timeline.Pannaliciour wrote:We dont know if Dabura was defeated , maybe its a Toei thing?
Regarding the chapter, that covered so little material. I'm surprised. I was sure it would end with Trunks leaving for the past. At this pace, it will be incredibility behind. Unless it cuts stuff like the last two episodes or parts of it, which felt stretched in my opinion.
It was a good chapter, I love to see both interpretations of the story. I like them both, although it appears the manga explained the time functions a bit better.
The anime was overall more impactful. While Black reveal was cooler in the manga.
Loved the little inside confrontation, made me imagine a Cyberpunk Dragon Ball for some reason.
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Them asking about Boo was logical, since he should still be a threat in Trunks' timeline. Babidi leaving with his ball was just mentioned in the Daizenshuu (I think) so they had that "open space" to cover if they wanted.LightBing wrote:It's possible. I found it quite weird that there was even a need to mention Boo. It didn't happened originally because most of humanity was dead, so no energy(right?). Even if twenty(?) years passed the population should still be small. It feels forced, maybe to ease people who still wonder about Boo in Trunks timeline.
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I was really hoping they would cut off Mai, or whoever the heck this "Mai" character is supposed to be.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
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What's illogical about Mai appearing?Esfír Dedragón wrote:I was really hoping they would cut off Mai, or whoever the heck this "Mai" character is supposed to be.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
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Esfír Dedragón wrote:I was really hoping they would cut off Mai, or whoever the heck this "Mai" character is supposed to be.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
It was Toriyama's ideas and I never saw a fan fiction with Adult Mai in. It's not like Toriyama brought back Broly.
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Kei17 has previously suggested in other threads that Toei provided Toriyama with suggestions for the Future Trunks Arc. He's had inside info before, so I see no reason to doubt him this time either. Thus, while it's most likely that Toriyama was responsible for Mai's part in the arc (as Toei had previously been ignoring the Trunks X Mai relationship from the film versions of BoG and "F"), we can't say that with absolute certainty.
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At this point nothing can be said with certainty, but they'res still a 99 percent chance it's Toriyama. At least the kid trunks thing is better now that Mai is friend zoning him Haha
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Really? That's a serious question you're asking?alakazam^ wrote:What's illogical about Mai appearing?Esfír Dedragón wrote:I was really hoping they would cut off Mai, or whoever the heck this "Mai" character is supposed to be.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
Before anything further occurs, I would like to ask a general question: Is there any official explanation as to why Mai and her little group are young again?
Anyone? Are we all assuming that we are all assuming that they used the Dragon Balls to retain youth?
Also,....*snickers*...if she's still alive, "Future Mai" should be a really old woman in Age 797, like this, only much older:

Remember, this is from GT in Age 789.
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In the extended version of BoG the movie, they explained it. It was the Dragon Balls. There's also this interview where Mr.Toriyama says he brought back the Pilaf Gang and choose to make Mai and Trunks a couple for the movie.Esfír Dedragón wrote:Before anything further occurs, I would like to ask a general question: Is there any official explanation as to why Mai and her little group are young again?
Anyone? Are we all assuming that we are all assuming that they used the Dragon Balls to retain youth?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... interview/
Since they failed to explain the Pilaf Gang age in the manga and the anime, people are just following what the movie said.
This is just my theory, I believe Mai being in the future is one hundred percent from Mr.Toriyama. He did came up with it originally and the anime dialed back the romance, due to the ick factor I would think; in the BoG arc. Only in this recent arc did they embrace it.
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It was his idea tbh, u gotta thank Dragon Ball Evolution for that.Esfír Dedragón wrote:I was really hoping they would cut off Mai, or whoever the heck this "Mai" character is supposed to be.
I hope it wasn't Toriyama's idea to bring her back.
I would feel more comfortable hating on Toei finding out it was some writer with Fan-Fiction goggles who decided to bring her back with no logical or official explanation.
Feels like he is telling Hollywood "Hey I can treat Mai better than in ur "movie""