"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Kenneth La Torre » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:43 pm

Michsi wrote:
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Michsi wrote:Maybe this arena thing will end up being wrong. Many summaries contained wrong information, after all.
No summary has contained wrong information, they have contained exaggerated information. For example, one spoiler said that freeza was mad that goku took out the fighters he was targeting, it turned out that freeza was just slightly disappointed that he couldn’t do it, the. He went to do his own business. Maybe it’s a good thing that spoilers are being vague, that way we don’t get spoiled too much.
I don't remember that part at all, all I remember is him being shown for a few seconds at the end of the episode looking amused. It wasn't an exaggeration, the bit that the summary described was completely missing. Also the summary said that it was Piccolo that came up with the strategy when in fact it had been Gohan.
Nope, it was just exaggerated, go back and look at the episode. Freeza jokingly says something about goku taking his targets, but not in an angry manner (which was what the spoiler exaggerated)

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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:35 pm

I wonder how long 17 and freeza are going to fight toppo before toppo beats them. I hope it doesn’t take half an episode. Vegeta vs toppo needs more than just half an episode

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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:41 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:I kind of hope we see the two battles run into each other so a six-man meele breaks out. 1 stock, no items, Final Destination, 5 minute time limit. :lol:
I see what ya did there :lol: SSB fan (Super Smash Bros, not Super Saiyan Blue lol) :lol:

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Post by CriticalThinker » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am

Ya know just thinking about it I'm a bit annoyed that characters like Dyspo and Toppo don't have single elimination under their belts. I mean they gave one to Ribrianne so I don't get why they couldn't give those two ones as well. Though I like 17 and enjoy Vegeta a part of me hopes Toppo knocks out one or both next episode.

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Post by Simere » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:33 am

Kenneth La Torre wrote:
Michsi wrote:
Kenneth La Torre wrote: No summary has contained wrong information, they have contained exaggerated information. For example, one spoiler said that freeza was mad that goku took out the fighters he was targeting, it turned out that freeza was just slightly disappointed that he couldn’t do it, the. He went to do his own business. Maybe it’s a good thing that spoilers are being vague, that way we don’t get spoiled too much.
I don't remember that part at all, all I remember is him being shown for a few seconds at the end of the episode looking amused. It wasn't an exaggeration, the bit that the summary described was completely missing. Also the summary said that it was Piccolo that came up with the strategy when in fact it had been Gohan.
Nope, it was just exaggerated, go back and look at the episode. Freeza jokingly says something about goku taking his targets, but not in an angry manner (which was what the spoiler exaggerated)
Didn't say anything like that. He only comments on how Goku didn't end up using UI.

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Post by Michsi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:49 am

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Kenneth La Torre wrote:
Michsi wrote: I don't remember that part at all, all I remember is him being shown for a few seconds at the end of the episode looking amused. It wasn't an exaggeration, the bit that the summary described was completely missing. Also the summary said that it was Piccolo that came up with the strategy when in fact it had been Gohan.
Nope, it was just exaggerated, go back and look at the episode. Freeza jokingly says something about goku taking his targets, but not in an angry manner (which was what the spoiler exaggerated)
Didn't say anything like that. He only comments on how Goku didn't end up using UI.

Exactly. If we're talking about 118, then his one and only appearance was at the end, commenting amused that Goku didn't need to use UI this time. It was nothing like the summary described. Though I don't think we had another case of misleading summary quite as bad as that one.

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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:56 am

CriticalThinker wrote:Ya know just thinking about it I'm a bit annoyed that characters like Dyspo and Toppo don't have single elimination under their belts. I mean they gave one to Ribrianne so I don't get why they couldn't give those two ones as well. Though I like 17 and enjoy Vegeta a part of me hopes Toppo knocks out one or both next episode.
Toppo will most definitely have at least one in 126.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:10 pm

So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
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Post by MrBlackFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:26 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
Frieza too, imho

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Post by OLKv3 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:32 pm

Kenneth La Torre wrote:
CriticalThinker wrote:Ya know just thinking about it I'm a bit annoyed that characters like Dyspo and Toppo don't have single elimination under their belts. I mean they gave one to Ribrianne so I don't get why they couldn't give those two ones as well. Though I like 17 and enjoy Vegeta a part of me hopes Toppo knocks out one or both next episode.
Toppo will most definitely have at least one in 126.
Unless Vegeta eliminates himself lol

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:34 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
Of course it's not..
He is gonna reveal later he was zalama all along and they had no chance of beating him anyway because he tops GP himself in power..
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Post by Xeogran » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:41 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
Of course it's not..
He is gonna reveal later he was zalama all along and they had no chance of beating him anyway because he tops GP himself in power..
Get this terrible fanfiction away from here. We all know that Grand Priest is the strongest fighter known in all Universes.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:44 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
Of course it's not..
He is gonna reveal later he was zalama all along and they had no chance of beating him anyway because he tops GP himself in power..
Get this terrible fanfiction away from here. We all know that Grand Priest is the strongest fighter known in all Universes.
Hell no, it's staying right here, alongside Balnco Gohan and Goten black..

Seriously though, Jiren is gonna have more power for sure, he isn't exerting himself in the slightest right now..
And GP dosen't have the be the strongest fighter, nobody in the show outright confirmed that if memory serves right..
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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:So far, Dyspo and Toppo have both had transformations/power-ups. Something tells me this isn't even Jiren's final form.
Toppo became a hakaishin, jiren will become an angel :lol:

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Post by Grimlock » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:39 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:And GP dosen't have the be the strongest fighter, nobody in the show outright confirmed that if memory serves right..
In the manga continuity, Whis says he is the strongest fighter.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:42 pm

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Ki Breaker wrote:And GP dosen't have the be the strongest fighter, nobody in the show outright confirmed that if memory serves right..
In the manga continuity, Whis says he is the strongest fighter.
There goes my outlandish theory.. :(
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Post by MrBlackFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:44 pm

Grimlock wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:And GP dosen't have the be the strongest fighter, nobody in the show outright confirmed that if memory serves right..
In the manga continuity, Whis says he is the strongest fighter.
And in the anime says GP is one of the top 5 highest battle powers in all universes

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:45 pm

Kenneth La Torre wrote:
CriticalThinker wrote:Ya know just thinking about it I'm a bit annoyed that characters like Dyspo and Toppo don't have single elimination under their belts. I mean they gave one to Ribrianne so I don't get why they couldn't give those two ones as well. Though I like 17 and enjoy Vegeta a part of me hopes Toppo knocks out one or both next episode.
Toppo will most definitely have at least one in 126.
Well Toppo and Dyspo literally stood around for like what 10 episodes?

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Post by MrBlackFox » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:47 pm

Aside from fan theories, a thing that made me always think was Vermoud's quote " Jiren is a being who will never lose, no matter who he's up against" like he CAN'T be beaten, not only because of his power but with another trick/curse /wish or something else

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Post by darzap » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:14 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:Aside from fan theories, a thing that made me always think was Vermoud's quote " Jiren is a being who will never lose, no matter who he's up against" like he CAN'T be beaten, not only because of his power but with another trick/curse /wish or something else
That could be an interesting plot, but I think it's a throw-away line because Dragon Ball is not that subtle. If that was meant to be foreshadowing, they would have at least some character like Piccolo turn his head and have an inner monologue like "What does he mean... ...a being who will never lose?" backed by some mystery-announcing background music.
Dbzfan94 wrote:Well Toppo and Dyspo literally stood around for like what 10 episodes?
Yeah, that's a complaint that will probably be voiced more often when people review the ToP as a whole. They made it a battle royal, so things should happen in parallel. The pictures on screen tried to convey this a little bit by occasionally showing that some other fights are happening at the same time, but the writing was done the same way previous tournaments were written: sequentially. A sequence of new enemies presented to have them eliminated by the main cast. Why, for example, do Goku and Vegeta eliminate an entire universe right in the beginning? Those two would get plenty of glory later. We could have seen Dyspo bolt in superspeed between three from the Trio of Dangers, throwing them all out, before they knew what hit them. That would have a long way to establish him and his superspeed as a serious threat and it also would have cut away from U7 and enhanced the feeling of a battle royal with more stuff going on than whatever the main cast is up to.
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