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super michael
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by super michael » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:22 am
ABED wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:21 pm
Being good at something, even great, doesn't mean you can teach. Teaching is a separate skill
super michael wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:13 pm
Before the Cell Game Gohan has never used the Kamehameha before, he only relied on Masenko. There is nothing that implies that Gohan knew how to use the Kamehameha. Gohan then taught Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Unless it's in the show, that's conjecture. Goku wasn't taught the Kamehameha, neither were Kuririn or Yamcha. They figured it out on their own. Also, if Gohan taught Goten the Kamehameha, he would know it wasn't Kamekameha when he used it in the Junior Division.
Actually being a master at Martial Art means someone would be good at teaching others Martial Art. Why wouldn't Goku be able to teach anyone the things he learned? Doing maths has nothing to do with martial art at all.
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Gohan showed Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Seeing that there is no prove that Goku taught Gohan the Kamehameha, I will accept it is conjecture.
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by ABED » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:33 am
super michael wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:22 am
ABED wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:21 pm
Being good at something, even great, doesn't mean you can teach. Teaching is a separate skill
super michael wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:13 pm
Before the Cell Game Gohan has never used the Kamehameha before, he only relied on Masenko. There is nothing that implies that Gohan knew how to use the Kamehameha. Gohan then taught Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Unless it's in the show, that's conjecture. Goku wasn't taught the Kamehameha, neither were Kuririn or Yamcha. They figured it out on their own. Also, if Gohan taught Goten the Kamehameha, he would know it wasn't Kamekameha when he used it in the Junior Division.
Actually being a master at Martial Art means someone would be good at teaching others Martial Art. Why wouldn't Goku be able to teach anyone the things he learned? Doing maths has nothing to do with martial art at all.
https://read.mangadad.com/Mangadad/drag ... -435/5.jpg
Gohan showed Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Seeing that there is no prove that Goku taught Gohan the Kamehameha, I will accept it is conjecture.
Because the ability to communicate what you know to another person is a completely separate skill set. For example Ray Stevens was one of the best wrestlers ever and when asked how he did it, his response was "dunno", he just did it. I've had plenty of teachers over the years that knew their stuff but couldn't communicate it well at all. And what does doing math have to do with this discussion?
Good teachers aren't just people knowledgeable in their field.
Fair enough about Goten, but he also learned how to turn SSJ on his own. Being able to do something doesn't equate to being taught.
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by jjgp1112 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:37 am
super michael wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:22 am
ABED wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:21 pm
Being good at something, even great, doesn't mean you can teach. Teaching is a separate skill
super michael wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:13 pm
Before the Cell Game Gohan has never used the Kamehameha before, he only relied on Masenko. There is nothing that implies that Gohan knew how to use the Kamehameha. Gohan then taught Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Unless it's in the show, that's conjecture. Goku wasn't taught the Kamehameha, neither were Kuririn or Yamcha. They figured it out on their own. Also, if Gohan taught Goten the Kamehameha, he would know it wasn't Kamekameha when he used it in the Junior Division.
Actually being a master at Martial Art means someone would be good at teaching others Martial Art. Why wouldn't Goku be able to teach anyone the things he learned? Doing maths has nothing to do with martial art at all.
https://read.mangadad.com/Mangadad/drag ... -435/5.jpg
Gohan showed Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Seeing that there is no prove that Goku taught Gohan the Kamehameha, I will accept it is conjecture.
Some of the greatest athletes of all time have also been horrendous coaches. What's your point?
Guys who are that good at what they do are such naturals that they often have a hard time actually TEACHING it, unless their MO involves strategy to begin with (for instance, in basketball, point guards become the best coaches because their role as players were basically on-court coaches anyway. Same things with quarterbacks and linebackers in football).
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by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:08 am
super michael wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:22 am
Actually being a master at Martial Art means someone would be good at teaching others Martial Art. Why wouldn't Goku be able to teach anyone the things he learned? Doing maths has nothing to do with martial art at all.
https://read.mangadad.com/Mangadad/drag ... -435/5.jpg
Gohan showed Goten how to do the Kamehameha.
Seeing that there is no prove that Goku taught Gohan the Kamehameha, I will accept it is conjecture.
There's a reason why teachers take pedagogy courses before teaching at schools, knowledge alone is not enough for good teaching.
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by super michael » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:08 am
I guess having the knowledge and being a master isn't enough, I guess being able to communicate that knowledge is also important. For Martial Arts it is important to know the moves and why those moves are effects and how to counter.
When it comes to chi it is important to be able to explain how it is suppose to feel and what you have to do.
I done Ju-Jitsu and Tai Chi up to 42 form, so I got some ideas about martial art and chi