I don't think making Dragon Ball a greek tragedy would sit well with young readers.Noah wrote:The best end for Dragon Ball would be the Freeza arc, but with everyone in King Kai's Planet staying dead, Piccolo and Vegeta too, Goku killed by the explosion of Namek (Freeza was ultimately defeated), Gohan and Bulma the only ones who have succeeded in surving this climatic battle with the two sets of Dragon Balls permanently erased from existence.
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Ultimate Tenkaichi's version of ultimate Gohan's goodbye to Goku is the best version of this moment.
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Can I have permission to make that my signature?Doctor. wrote:I don't think making Dragon Ball a greek tragedy would sit well with young readers.Noah wrote:The best end for Dragon Ball would be the Freeza arc, but with everyone in King Kai's Planet staying dead, Piccolo and Vegeta too, Goku killed by the explosion of Namek (Freeza was ultimately defeated), Gohan and Bulma the only ones who have succeeded in surving this climatic battle with the two sets of Dragon Balls permanently erased from existence.
On another note, I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Sonny Strait's Krillin a lot more than Terry Klassen's portrayal of the character. I don't know why. Some characters I like both the Ocean and Funi voices, like Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo. For whatever reason Krillin is not one of them.
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I definitely get the most feeling from it. Mainly from the music. I wish we had gotten Takaki to do the music in Super. Your reasons?Doctor. wrote:Ultimate Tenkaichi's version of ultimate Gohan's goodbye to Goku is the best version of this moment.
Nah, I definitely wouldn't consider an unpopular in the North American fan base. Most people I've seen love Strait's Krillin.Danfun64 wrote: On another note, I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Sonny Strait's Krillin a lot more than Terry Klassen's portrayal of the character. I don't know why. Some characters I like both the Ocean and Funi voices, like Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo. For whatever reason Krillin is not one of them.
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Nah, the manga will always be better, love how there had a mutual hug. Didn't like it how odd in the anime they made Goku not hugging back.Doctor. wrote:Ultimate Tenkaichi's version of ultimate Gohan's goodbye to Goku is the best version of this moment.
But would be touchable and unlike anything we saw until nowadays in shounen, but probably not as popular as is today.I don't think making Dragon Ball a greek tragedy would sit well with young readers.
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Feel free.Danfun64 wrote:Can I have permission to make that my signature?
Definitely Takaki's OST, but I also feel the voicework from Nozawa is the best in this version, compared to her performance in Z and Kai.Bansho64 wrote:I definitely get the most feeling from it. Mainly from the music. I wish we had gotten Takaki to do the music in Super. Your reasons?
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Yeah, she ain't half bad in it. Pretty good IMO. The differentiates the voices pretty nicely and have Gohan a good scream.Doctor. wrote: Definitely Takaki's OST, but I also feel the voicework from Nozawa is the best in this version, compared to her performance in Z and Kai.
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But not consistent with Dragon Ball.But would be touchable and unlike anything we saw until nowadays in shounen, but probably not as popular as is today.
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What's the track called when Gohan gets Goku's gi?Doctor. wrote:Definitely Takaki's OST, but I also feel the voicework from Nozawa is the best in this version, compared to her performance in Z and Kai.
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I don't think they ever released the cutscene OST, unfortunately. Only the game OST.ekrolo2 wrote:What's the track called when Gohan gets Goku's gi?Doctor. wrote:Definitely Takaki's OST, but I also feel the voicework from Nozawa is the best in this version, compared to her performance in Z and Kai.
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How so? This series changed it's tone in the very Piccolo Daimao arc, and now it Freeza a much much bigger threat, I don't see how it wouldn't be possible to end that way.ABED wrote:But not consistent with Dragon Ball.
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But it's still a fairly light hearted show. Ending with nearly everyone including the hero dying isn't consistent with the world he set up. Even at its most dire, it's still a show that could make you laugh. Goku being killed essentially by the villain in a less than heroic fashion isn't Dragon Ball. Having all those characters die feels almost nihilistic which is so not Dragon Ball.Noah wrote:How so? This series changed it's tone in the very Piccolo Daimao arc, and now it Freeza a much much bigger threat, I don't see how it wouldn't be possible to end that way.ABED wrote:But not consistent with Dragon Ball.
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Well Goku would be killed because he could not manage to escape after defeating Freeza, wouldn't be a heart-breaking scene the character we saw as a kid since the first volume, his growth, all the obstacles he had overcome, running desperately trying to find a way to survive and in the end being incapable of doing so as his last words while looking to the whole planet collapses "DAMN IT"?ABED wrote:Goku being killed essentially by the villain in a less than heroic fashion isn't Dragon Ball. Having all those characters die feels almost nihilistic which is so not Dragon Ball.
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Tonally it wouldn't fit with the rest of the series but I really like Goku biting the dust because, even after everything Freeza did, he couldn't let a good fight opportunity pass him by. Kind of like how Freeza would've lived and spared himself a lot of grief if he also just let things go and accepted the two chances Goku gave him to piss off.Noah wrote:Well Goku would be killed because he could not manage to escape after defeating Freeza, wouldn't be a heart-breaking scene the character we saw as a kid since the first volume, his growth, all the obstacles he had overcome, running desperately trying to find a way to survive and in the end being incapable of doing so as his last words while looking to the whole planet collapses "DAMN IT"?ABED wrote:Goku being killed essentially by the villain in a less than heroic fashion isn't Dragon Ball. Having all those characters die feels almost nihilistic which is so not Dragon Ball.
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Would it be heartbreaking? Maybe, but that doesn't mean I want to see it end that way. Goku deserves better than to be killed by Freeza.Noah wrote:Well Goku would be killed because he could not manage to escape after defeating Freeza, wouldn't be a heart-breaking scene the character we saw as a kid since the first volume, his growth, all the obstacles he had overcome, running desperately trying to find a way to survive and in the end being incapable of doing so as his last words while looking to the whole planet collapses "DAMN IT"?ABED wrote:Goku being killed essentially by the villain in a less than heroic fashion isn't Dragon Ball. Having all those characters die feels almost nihilistic which is so not Dragon Ball.
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But you talk like he didn't killed Freeza first (considering his angry blast was enough to finish him), we could pretty much say it ended as a drawABED wrote:Goku deserves better than to be killed by Freeza.
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It would really be a greek tragedy. Goku's own flaws led to his downfall.ekrolo2 wrote:Tonally it wouldn't fit with the rest of the series but I really like Goku biting the dust because, even after everything Freeza did, he couldn't let a good fight opportunity pass him by. Kind of like how Freeza would've lived and spared himself a lot of grief if he also just let things go and accepted the two chances Goku gave him to piss off.
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But in a not so heroic manner.Noah wrote:But you talk like he didn't killed Freeza first (considering his angry blast was enough to finish him), we could pretty much say it ended as a drawABED wrote:Goku deserves better than to be killed by Freeza.
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I deeply resented the fact that Goku and Vegeta fought again in the Majin Boo arc. I don't think Goku and Vegeta should have fought again seriously after their first scuffle in the Saiyan arc. It doesn't help that their rematch is quite underwhelming. Especially in the manga.
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Why's that? I thought the rematch was a bit corny (and for some reason, almost non-existent in the manga), but it worked well enough for what it was. It also made for great characterization of Vegeta.Lord Beerus wrote:I don't think Goku and Vegeta should have fought again seriously after their first scuffle in the Saiyan arc.
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That anime was awesome IMO. There are other cool parts, but I consider that one the best.Lord Beerus wrote: It doesn't help that their rematch is quite underwhelming. Especially in the manga.
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