"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:01 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Araki wrote:Yeah, i don't know how to NOT call it a retelling. Unless one expects they're rehashing the exact same plot from the movies line by line or skipping them altogether while leaving the tv audience lost and confused.
If it is a retelling of BoG and "F" then way does Toriyama say this when describing the Universe 6 arc "I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe" keyword being new.
He's describing the universe 6 arc that follows the retellings. We get a new take on the events of the movies, as well as something completely new.

"It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. "
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:02 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Araki wrote:Yeah, i don't know how to NOT call it a retelling. Unless one expects they're rehashing the exact same plot from the movies line by line or skipping them altogether while leaving the tv audience lost and confused.
If it is a retelling of BoG and "F" then way does Toriyama say this when describing the Universe 6 arc "I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe" keyword being new.
Because the new story comes after the F arc... he says so himself...

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:05 am

Describing Uni 6 as "strange" gives me high hopes that that arc is going to be a lot of fun. X3
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:07 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Araki wrote:Yeah, i don't know how to NOT call it a retelling. Unless one expects they're rehashing the exact same plot from the movies line by line or skipping them altogether while leaving the tv audience lost and confused.
If it is a retelling of BoG and "F" then way does Toriyama say this when describing the Universe 6 arc "I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe" keyword being new.
He's describing the universe 6 arc that follows the retellings. We get a new take on the events of the movies, as well as something completely new.

That's my point he only refers to the Universe six arc as new if BoG and "F" were new complete retellings why didn't he refer to them as such?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:09 am

I'm curious to see if Gohan will be SSJ or Ultimate in the BoG arc. I think they're just opting all SSJ. Whatever.

Also wonder if we'll see Vegeta go SSJG for the first time.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:15 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Also wonder if we'll see Vegeta go SSJG for the first time.
Wonder if he'll gain "kawaii eyes" like Goku did...eww.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cold Skin » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:16 am

And this is Toei we're talking about, the guys juggling with 36 projects at the same time and trying to spare themselves as much efforts as possible to make it all work with all of their on-going stuff, regardless of consequences as long as it makes it easier to deal with right here and right now.
They won't care if they make any "all new" statement lie (an "all new" take on something pre-existing like BOG and RF is not "all new" by definition anyway, so such statement would already be a lie right now), I bet they'll cease the opportunity to re-use footage for sure if they can!

That would just be the most handy thing to do for everyone involved. But we'll see.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:17 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
That's my point he only refers to the Universe six arc as new if BoG and "F" were new complete retellings why didn't he refer to them as such?
A retelling literally means to tell the story again or differently. Regardless of his direction, it's still a retelling. Lol.

I highly doubt they'll just copy and paste the movies onto the series though. Makes little sense from a storytelling and business standpoint.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by orco05 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:17 am

orco05 wrote:How many dragon balls are there now? 9? 12?

plus: How many dragons are there now?

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One of the new Super Dragon Balls?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Basaku » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:18 am

ROF can be totally skipped, it's structured as a filler anyway. All that it adds happens before it even starts (Super Bluper) and Jaco can be introduced anytime else. BOG will have to be retold tho.

I'm glad we're gonna explore other universe and this arc will move past endless reunion parties on Earth. Can't wait for that, we just have to slog through BOG/ROF period to get to the better stuff.

Although...
I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls
You mean they go on a ...

GRAND TOUR?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cold Skin » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:21 am

I love how the Super Dragon Balls explain the title Dragon Ball Super in the end. It's pretty nice!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:23 am

Chuquita wrote:Describing Uni 6 as "strange" gives me high hopes that that arc is going to be a lot of fun. X3
Maybe we'll meet a character made of food and Goku will be conflicted on whether he should eat him or not.
orco05 wrote: One of the new Super Dragon Balls?
Yeah, I'm thinking the 9 star ball was a hint all along.
Basaku wrote:ROF can be totally skipped, it's structured as a filler anyway. All that it adds happens before it even starts (Super Bluper) and Jaco can be introduced anytime else. BOG will have to be retold tho.

I'm glad we're gonna explore other universe and this arc will move past endless reunion parties on Earth. Can't wait for that, we just have to slog through BOG/ROF period to get to the better stuff.

Although...
I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls
You mean they go on a ...

GRAND TOUR?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by KAiWAi » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:24 am

What if ...

What if there is 12 super dragon balls ?
One per universes ?

What if Goten and Trunks found by accident their universe's super dragon ball while searching a present for Videl and Gohan ?? 8) :o

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:29 am

If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:30 am

It'll be interesting to see this new set have a price tag on it's wishes.

For example if they want someone brought back to life then someone has to die or if they want to be rich then someone will have to be poor.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:30 am

soulnova wrote:If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
Simple, all they need to do is cut the number of Saiyans needed by one.
Hopefully they also make it so Vegeta goes God at the same time too.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:34 am

Re: kawaii eyes

Vegeta would still find a way to make it look menacing. XD

Re: grand tour

That is such an unintentional, but looks like a trolling expression on Toriyama's face.

Re: food people

Clearly Gokû could never visit Candy Land.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SuperSayanJim » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:35 am

They don't need to retell anything... They can just expand the history! Example:

6 months after Buu
- 1 episode explaining the aftermath

-------- time skip ---------

Start of BOG arc
- episode that deepens history on Beerus wake and provides character background
- Expand on Super Saiyan God myth
- Place movie, with some new footage, 3 to 4 episodes
- Aftermath of battle and Whis offer for training

Start of FNF arc
- Explain Vegeta SSG
- Episode(s) with Vegeta and Goku training under Whis and Frieza's ressurection / training
- FNF expanded into 3 to 4 episodes
- FNF aftermath

Start of Universe 6 act

Seems possible and doesn't involve any retelling

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Luso Saiyan » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:36 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:So "Battle of Gods arc" and Revival of F arc" seriously do not even imply a retelling of some sort?
On the contrary, it acknowledges them as central events of their respective arcs. The series will expand on them, not retell them.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Basaku » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:38 am

soulnova wrote:If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
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