"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

So Goku went from not knowing about deity ki to surpassing deities all within a year or two... Talk about an unbelievably rushed plot.

It seems that they wanted to rush through this for some reason. Maybe to end Gokus story and start with the next generation? I can’t think of too many other reasons why they’d come up with a “Dragon Ball Room”

He did the same thing in Dragon Ball where he surpassed Kami, god, within just three years and King Kai within less than a year. Heck, he surpassed the Supreme Kai before even meeting him in the Buu Saga.

True, but the gap between Goku and Beerus was portrayed to be much larger than anyone else in the series. Even in the recruiting episodes, Beerus used his breath to blow away “Hakai” energy when Golden Frieza struggled with it. Yeah ssbkk is much stronger than Golden Frieza, but that’s still a massive gap in power and Sidra seemed to just eyeball where he thought Frieza was.

It’s not just Goku obviously. In 40 hours, people reached heights in power that were just absurd. I wish they would’ve taken their time with this stuff instead of trying to cram it all in 131 episodes.

Why is 131 episodes portrayed as rushed? 131 is almost three years, longer than a lot of anime that are lucky to get 26 episodes.

[OLKv3]

I kept saying 17 would be in the final three

[vashter]

I kept saying 17 would be in the final three

the leak is mistake mistranslate someone fuck up in japan, so don't be a fool to believe 17 going to be around.

[Kenneth La Torre]

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A lot of statements regarding MUI goku and jiren where they stand in terms of the hakaishins. Also, they talk about a certain character who should not be in the field.

Uhm.. They never talk about “a character that shouldn’t be in the field.” I don’t know where everyone is getting this from, but look up in the dictionary what the word “unprecedented” even means. It means something phenomenal, never before seen, beyond comprehension etc etc. It has nothing to do with an “uninvited guest”. What surprises me even more is that you aren’t the only person who came up with these conclusions.

The character that shouldn’t be in the field is 17. As they mention him here, yet leave out vegeta. Suggesting that he could potentially be there. Although I believe it’s just a typo

[OLKv3]

I kept saying 17 would be in the final three

the leak is mistake mistranslate someone fuck up in japan, so don't be a fool to believe 17 going to be around.

Denial isn't healthy my friend.

[JazzMazz]

So Goku went from not knowing about deity ki to surpassing deities all within a year or two... Talk about an unbelievably rushed plot.

It seems that they wanted to rush through this for some reason. Maybe to end Gokus story and start with the next generation? I can’t think of too many other reasons why they’d come up with a “Dragon Ball Room”

He did the same thing in Dragon Ball where he surpassed Kami, god, within just three years and King Kai within less than a year. Heck, he surpassed the Supreme Kai before even meeting him in the Buu Saga.

True, but the gap between Goku and Beerus was portrayed to be much larger than anyone else in the series. Even in the recruiting episodes, Beerus used his breath to blow away “Hakai” energy when Golden Frieza struggled with it. Yeah ssbkk is much stronger than Golden Frieza, but that’s still a massive gap in power and Sidra seemed to just eyeball where he thought Frieza was.

It’s not just Goku obviously. In 40 hours, people reached heights in power that were just absurd. I wish they would’ve taken their time with this stuff instead of trying to cram it all in 131 episodes.

That is quite possibly, the single most ironic statement I've heard ever.

131 episodes is by no means cramming anything.

Also, are you guys forgetting about the Namek arc? Freeza was literally thousands upon thousands of times more powerful than any member of the cast, but in the span of merely 65 episodes, he was already reduced to cannon fodder.

[Kenneth La Torre]

It took goku 4 arcs to surpass the hakaishins power. In terms of dB, that is a very long time. But if you are angry with that, blame the one who decided to introduce jiren into this arc.

[goku the krump dancer]

This feels so abrupt lol.. The last episode should at least be 45 minutes long. Goku and Jiren's battle will have to over in ep.130 if Toei is hoping to have at least a half decent ending for Super.

[shadowmaria]

This feels so abrupt lol.. The last episode should at least be 45 minutes long. Goku and Jiren's battle will have to over in ep.130 if Toei is hoping to have at least a half decent ending for Super.

lolwut

Please tell me you know that that was never going to happen.

[TheOtherDude]

He did the same thing in Dragon Ball where he surpassed Kami, god, within just three years and King Kai within less than a year. Heck, he surpassed the Supreme Kai before even meeting him in the Buu Saga.

True, but the gap between Goku and Beerus was portrayed to be much larger than anyone else in the series. Even in the recruiting episodes, Beerus used his breath to blow away “Hakai” energy when Golden Frieza struggled with it. Yeah ssbkk is much stronger than Golden Frieza, but that’s still a massive gap in power and Sidra seemed to just eyeball where he thought Frieza was.

It’s not just Goku obviously. In 40 hours, people reached heights in power that were just absurd. I wish they would’ve taken their time with this stuff instead of trying to cram it all in 131 episodes.

That is quite possibly, the single most ironic statement I've heard ever.

131 episodes is by no means cramming anything.

Also, are you guys forgetting about the Namek arc? Freeza was literally thousands upon thousands of times more powerful than any member of the cast, but in the span of merely 65 episodes, he was already reduced to cannon fodder.

I’m a One Piece fan, so obviously I have a different view on how long it takes the main character to reach the pentacle of his strength. The pacing has been ridiculous. There were so many missed opportunities arc wise they could’ve had before they introduced an enemy that was literally stronger than his God of Destruction. Like I stated earlier in the recruitment arc we saw Beerus blow away Sidras “Hakai” with just his breath. Not a finger. His BREATH. The same one that Golden Frieza struggled with. Now Goku is going to surpass THAT deity within an hour ish time frame.

Nowhere did I ever say that Z was perfect. But if you’re trying to tell me the power scaling issue in the namek saga is as bad as the power scaling issue in this arc, then you’re delusional.

[TheOtherDude]

He did the same thing in Dragon Ball where he surpassed Kami, god, within just three years and King Kai within less than a year. Heck, he surpassed the Supreme Kai before even meeting him in the Buu Saga.

True, but the gap between Goku and Beerus was portrayed to be much larger than anyone else in the series. Even in the recruiting episodes, Beerus used his breath to blow away “Hakai” energy when Golden Frieza struggled with it. Yeah ssbkk is much stronger than Golden Frieza, but that’s still a massive gap in power and Sidra seemed to just eyeball where he thought Frieza was.

It’s not just Goku obviously. In 40 hours, people reached heights in power that were just absurd. I wish they would’ve taken their time with this stuff instead of trying to cram it all in 131 episodes.

Why is 131 episodes portrayed as rushed? 131 is almost three years, longer than a lot of anime that are lucky to get 26 episodes.

3 years to surpass a million year old deity who could wipe the floor with you with ease less than an hour ago? It wasn’t too long ago Goku and Vegeta were scared of dying from one of his sneezes.

[HeroR]

I’m a One Piece fan, so obviously I have a different view on how long it takes the main character to reach the pentacle of his strength. The pacing has been ridiculous. There were so many missed opportunities arc wise they could’ve had before they introduced an enemy that was literally stronger than his God of Destruction. Like I stated earlier in the recruitment arc we saw Beerus blow away Sidras “Hakai” with just his breath. Not a finger. His BREATH. The same one that Golden Frieza struggled with. Now Goku is going to surpass THAT deity within an hour ish time frame.

Nowhere did I ever say that Z was perfect. But if you’re trying to tell me the power scaling issue in the namek saga is as bad as the power scaling issue in this arc, then you’re delusional.

One Piece is also one of the longest running manga in history, so this is a weird comparison and I'm also an One Piece. One Piece in general have an extremely small power jumps compared to most anime. And Golden Freeza faked a lot of his struggle.

As for Namek, Goku went from being weaker than Saiyan Saga Vegeta to a power level of over 3 million in six days. That is even before he went Super Saiyan that gave him a 50x boost. Goku at least been training for UI since Resurrection 'F', which was back in 2015 and we're now in 2018.

3 years to surpass a million year old deity who could wipe the floor with you with ease less than an hour ago? It wasn’t too long ago Goku and Vegeta were scared of dying from one of his sneezes.

A deity who has done nothing but eat and sleep. When have we seen Beerus train and why do you automatically assumed that Beeus trained for millions of years when it was outright said Beerus sleeps for that long?

And Resurrection 'F' was years ago in-universe and they were in base form during that sneeze.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Looks like it's confirmed that GoDs are nothing but fodder to Goku now, fitting way to end the series.

[precita]

Too bad they don't have time for a Goku Vs. Beerus rematch. Would have been fitting for Super to end the way it started.

[Kanassa]

Looks like it's confirmed that GoDs are nothing but fodder to Goku now, fitting way to end the series.

You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Hawk9211]

I still think that beerus should have been surpassed after another arc and top itself happened way too soon.
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[Xeogran]

If somehow 17 is still alive.. I wouldn't know how to feel. The Android's apparent death concluded his character in an awesome way. Having him survive would be the biggest copout ever.

At this point, I wouldn't want to hear Super 17's strength was an asspull, when DBS' 17 seems to be plot shielded by Toei in every possible way.

[sintzu]

Looks like it's confirmed that GoDs are nothing but fodder to Goku now, fitting way to end the series.

If that's going to happen then they couldn't have picked a worse way to go out. Going from being nothing to Beerus who himself isn't even the strongest of the 12 to possibly surpassing all of them is nothing short of lazy and very short sighted writing. Why on earth rush everything like that ? It's bad enough they wasted the universes themselves but now this ? I'm not going to jump to conclusions as it seems like there may be something off with the spoilers so fingers and everything else crossed this doens't happen.

[Hawk9211]

Can someone post the pic for some reason it isn’t working for me?

[Ki Breaker]

Can someone post the pic for some reason it isn’t working for me?

Here ya go