Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Avenged]

[EmmaWinters]

Why would he watermark the text?

[Avenged]

He always watermarks his pictures, it's no biggie unlike saiyan island who steals pictures then watermarks them

But my guess, nothing important.

[Dayspring]

I just realized that if this is set three years before the 28th budokai, then Pan should be alive (albeit, a baby).

[Chuquita]

I feel like if there was anything plot related for F in VJump, it's be on the main page of Kanzenshuu this morning like the articles they already posted.

[FortuneSSJ]

Well, there's still 2 weekly shounen jump before the month is over. Doubt we will get anything but who knows.
Pretty sure we will have a new trailer in February anyway.

[Chuquita]

There's just one week left for January. February starts on a Sunday.
Unless you mean this week's Jump?
I don't know why Shueisha is waiting so long. Is everything really not ready yet?

[JulieYBM]

There's just one week left for January. February starts on a Sunday.
Unless you mean this week's Jump?
I don't know why Shueisha is waiting so long. Is everything really not ready yet?

If the film is only just beginning recording this week perhaps with the film not even partially assembled for recording there is so source to make promotional materials from?

[FortuneSSJ]

There's just one week left for January. February starts on a Sunday.
Unless you mean this week's Jump?

Yes. I'm counting with this one.

[Avenged]

There's just one week left for January. February starts on a Sunday.
Unless you mean this week's Jump?
I don't know why Shueisha is waiting so long. Is everything really not ready yet?

If they just started recording then I really doubt they are ready.

[Chuquita]

They should've announced later in the year that they were planning to make this movie for April if they started as late as they did. Would've saved the frustration of waiting through all these months with no real big updates.
Announcing it in October or something would've been better. July was too early.

[JulieYBM]

Oh, hey, I'm not sure if anyone else noticed, but that interview that Yamamuro Tadayoshi gave for Kami to Kami mentioned that he got the call about working on the film in "March of last year." That likely refers to March 2012, which is twelve months before the film was finished. That means Kami to Kami definitely had less than a year for the animation. There was probably even less time for Fukkatsu no F.

[Chuquita]

Outside of Toei being cheap, I don't know why they're rushing it. I still have hopes for the story, but animation-wise I don't get why they do it this way. They're not cheap with One Piece's movies. The HaCha movie looked well animated.
Is it because DB is more popular overseas? Do they want to spend more on series movies that are more popular locally? No idea. Even that doesn't make sense, they must want everything to look good, right?

[JulieYBM]

Outside of Toei being cheap, I don't know why they're rushing it. I still have hopes for the story, but animation-wise I don't get why they do it this way. They're not cheap with One Piece's movies. The HaCha movie looked well animated.
Is it because DB is more popular overseas? Do they want to spend more on series movies that are more popular locally? No idea. Even that doesn't make sense, they must want everything to look good, right?

I'm not sure. The Naruto films can get away with less than a year in production because they use a high number of animation supervisors and talented key animators to do a high number of cuts. Kami to Kami didn't do that, not to mention it had its weaker animators drawing based on poor quality character models. We know these films are going to more than make back their budget, so it couldn't hurt to have the producer in charge of these films work with Toriyama to get scripts don't quicker so that production on the animation can last longer. A new film for 2017 is almost guaranteed at this point so I don't see why Toriyama can't be asked to begin writing the plot now. He doesn't have to rush, either. Scheduling a director to work with Toriyama should be easier if they are guaranteed extra time to produce the film, too.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Doesn't One Piece make them more money than Dragon Ball? That's probably why One Piece movies have bigger budgets.

[JulieYBM]

Doesn't One Piece make them more money than Dragon Ball? That's probably why One Piece movies have bigger budgets.

The budget doesn't matter much in this case. You don't need much in the way of a higher budget than what Kami to Kami got, all one needs is time and talent. Today's episode of Disk Wars: Avengers had few drawings and little in the way of talented animators but still managed to be great thanks to the layouts and use of digital compositing.

[Chuquita]

So it's more a lack of talent than anything else?
That's a shame either way.
Thanks for letting me know.

At least February looks promising in the way of plot updates, since if the reason they held off was to wait for the animation to be mostly done. I can't imagine we'll get through next month without a plot update.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Looks like a TV Spot aired semi-recently. Probably nothing more than an edit of the trailer we already have, but still worth mentioning I guess.


https://lineq.line.me/q/14724999

[JulieYBM]

So it's more a lack of talent than anything else?
That's a shame either way.
Thanks for letting me know.

At least February looks promising in the way of plot updates, since if the reason they held off was to wait for the animation to be mostly done. I can't imagine we'll get through next month without a plot update.

Yeah, for the most part. Talented directors can do a lot with little. Remember, the average twenty minute episode costs anywhere from the low-end of $90,000 to a higher end of $200,000-300,000. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann had a budget of $180,000-200,000 an episode, which was over the original budget of $120,000-160,000. Nevertheless, the show looks really good for just $180,000 because the director, animation supervisor, and key animators knew how to get the most out of each sheet through their timing and draftsmanship. Timing is very important, because if one's timing is good one can create interesting movement with fewer drawings. Fukkatsu no F will probably have a budget of $400,000-500,000, assuming it is only 85 minutes like the previous film. If this was being directed by Hatano Morio or Koga Gou then that would definitely be enough to pull of a nice, solid film because they would know how to make dialogue scenes interesting without a large number of sheets so that those extra sheets could go towards the action cuts.

[Careless Saiyajin]

So it's more a lack of talent than anything else?
That's a shame either way.
Thanks for letting me know.

At least February looks promising in the way of plot updates, since if the reason they held off was to wait for the animation to be mostly done. I can't imagine we'll get through next month without a plot update.

Yeah, for the most part. Talented directors can do a lot with little. Remember, the average twenty minute episode costs anywhere from the low-end of $90,000 to a higher end of $200,000-300,000. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann had a budget of $180,000-200,000 an episode, which was over the original budget of $120,000-160,000. Nevertheless, the show looks really good for just $180,000 because the director, animation supervisor, and key animators knew how to get the most out of each sheet through their timing and draftsmanship. Timing is very important, because if one's timing is good one can create interesting movement with fewer drawings. Fukkatsu no F will probably have a budget of $400,000-500,000, assuming it is only 85 minutes like the previous film. If this was being directed by Hatano Morio or Koga Gou then that would definitely be enough to pull of a nice, solid film because they would know how to make dialogue scenes interesting without a large number of sheets so that those extra sheets could go towards the action cuts.

You really know your stuff and this isn't the first or second time I've learned something from your posts. I don't always think about the budget of what goes into what I'm watching. Do you have any idea if we're in good hands with this new film?