"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[batistabus]

What is wrong with Tanaka's Yajirobe? Ignoring Kai.

Well all I've heard is the Kai voice. Do you have a link to the original?
As for Kai, it's just a ridiculous shrill "character" voice and I don't think it's by any means great.

Agreed, it's no where near as memorable as her performance and voice for Kuririn. I don't see how anyone could have issues with the English voice for Yajirobe, it hits all the same beats of wackiness of the original. It's just dare I say more suited for the character than Tanaka's version.

I'd have to agree. I actually quite like the dub version.

[Kendamu]

Still, do you really think that's the kind of voice Toriyama had in mind? I can imagine maybe he had a voice like Dave Ward's Kaioh in mind, but Schemmėl's Kaioh is way too... "special".

I actually don't know if that's the voice Toriyama had in mind. It could go either way, really. I'm sure people in Japan reading the Manga before watching the Anime would've pictured Kaiō with a voice similar to that of the dub.

Now you're just making stuff up. Either stick to facts or stick to opinions. Quit changing the importance of either based on what's most convenient to you and quit trying to use your speculation on something we'll never know as fact.

[JulieYBM]

FUNimation is dubbing the anime, and in the anime, Kaiô isn't portrayed based on "Silly people must sound silly" which makes their portrayal of Kaiô inaccurate. The viewer's perception of the character is drastically changed in the process.

[linkdude20002001]

I actually don't know if that's the voice Toriyama had in mind. It could go either way, really. I'm sure people in Japan reading the Manga before watching the Anime would've pictured Kaiō with a voice similar to that of the dub.

Well we got ourselves an actual fan who read the comic without influence from the anime: Jeff! And when mike showed him the two voicesm he said he had a voice similar to Jouji Yanami's in his mind as he read.

Umm...remember how he had no idea what was going on on Earth during the Cell Games in the manga and Japanese version and Goku had to yell at him to get him off of his lazy ass? I do.

I'm not even talking about the Cell Games, though. It's not even just what he did/said, but the way he said it. It reminded me of Yajirove for some reason, but either way, it was annoying, and felt very out of characters.

[KaiserNeko]

BTW, they cut Freeza killing Oran! Very interesting...

[batistabus]

I'm incredibly happy with every recast/revision so far. Besides the others which are frequently mentioned, the Grand Elder is awesome.

[Big Momma]

I like the Japanese Kaiō, but the dub voice doesn't have to sound like it to be good. I'm okay with different interpretations as long as they don't annoy me and/or take me completely out of the show. Schemmel's Kaiō really is painful to listen to, personally. I'm not a huge fan of most of the cast, but they don't bug me that badly. The only voices that do are Yajirobe, Gyū Maō, and Kaiō.

Ah, it seems you aren't a big fan of the "Nasally" effect in the voice, eh?

[MetalMadness]

Why do people think King Kai is such an important character anyway?

Apart from teaching Goku Kaio-Ken, and Spirit Bomb, for the rest of the series all he does is cheer from the sidelines basically.

[JulieYBM]

Why do people think King Kai is such an important character anyway?

Apart from teaching Goku Kaio-Ken, and Spirit Bomb, for the rest of the series all he does is cheer from the sidelines basically.

That's the power of Yanami's performance.

Heck, with the way he voices the narrator the two might as well be the same character. I'd say that's very important!

[Kendamu]

BTW, they cut Freeza killing Oran! Very interesting...

I thought something was amiss in that scene.

[Gaffer Tape]

I just thought it was funny how they cut Vegeta standing on Appule's head but just showed Vegeta looking down and talking to... nothing.

But was Ouran's death in Kai at all? I mean, if we're going all "close to the manga," there was no Ouran, just Appule, and Freeza didn't kill him.

[B]

What is wrong with Tanaka's Yajirobe? Ignoring Kai.

Well all I've heard is the Kai voice. Do you have a link to the original?
As for Kai, it's just a ridiculous shrill "character" voice and I don't think it's by any means great.

It's very rusty in Kai, but in the original, Tanaka's performance is pretty much Krillin if he was a huge asshole. It's such a 180, you(well, me anyway) don't even stop to think, "hey, it's Krillin's voice." It's very akin to Nozawa's Tullece in Movie 3, where it's obviously her playing him, but it's just not Goku.

I can't blame anyone for hating Yajirobe in Kai, though. She's clearly either forgotten how to do it, or just phoned it in. It's nowhere near as shrill and high in Dragon Ball.

[Ishtar318]

I think this is the earliest yet:
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... -full.html

[JulieYBM]

I think this is the earliest yet:
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... -full.html

Wow, that's funny.

[Gaffer Tape]

It's such a 180, you(well, me anyway) don't even stop to think, "hey, it's Krillin's voice."

Technically, though, you're supposed to. When Goku first meets Yajirobe, he says that his voice reminds him of Kuririn.

[Metalwario64]

What the hell? Did Vegeta mentally make out a "dear lord Fri­eza" letter in the Japanese version when he found the Dragon Balls?

[jjgp1112]

I think this is the earliest yet:
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... -full.html

Holy shit, the scene at the beginning gave me a nostalgia trip. That was the first Dragon Ball Z scene I ever saw, and they actually had Vegeta say the Ocean dub line when he was hiding behind the door ("This is like taking candy from a baby!")

Metalwario64: Yes, he did, and it's lulzy. I was disappointed when Funi changed it to just a general statement in the Z dub.

[Ishtar318]

Episode 27 clips are also up:

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-1.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-2.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... lip-3.html

No more of that "We're like brothers" thing.

[Metalwario64]

Metalwario64: Yes, he did, and it's lulzy. I was disappointed when Funi changed it to just a general statement in the Z dub.

Well, that's good to hear. I don't think I saw this scene in Japanese, or at least not since Season Two came out. I still haven't watched every episode of the Dragon Boxes yet either, so I'm pretty sure I skipped the Z counterpart of this episode on there as well...

Good to hear it's not another instance of FUNi trying to be FUNi again... It was quite humorous.

[Blue]

Chris is rockin' Freeza. I'm so glad Z Kai's dub ended up in this fashion.