The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Hellspawn28]

What if Buu didn't kill Babidi? Fat buu continued following Babidi's orders and didn't turn against Babidi.

[Lord Beerus]

What if Buu didn't kill Babidi? Fat buu continued following Babidi's orders and didn't turn against Babidi.

Fat Boo never becomes friends with Mr Satan as Babidi would most likely have ordered him to kill Mr Satan if he came across him. And because he doesn't form a bond with Mr Satan, Super Boo or Kid Boo don't happen. And then Gotenks comes back, turns SSJ and murders Fat Boo and Babidi.

[Hellspawn28]

So what if Elder Kaioshin knew about Super Saiyan God ritual during the Buu saga? Would they do the ritual on Goku or Gohan?

[Lord Beerus]

So what if Elder Kaioshin knew about Super Saiyan God ritual during the Buu saga? Would they do the ritual on Goku or Gohan?

They would still need a few more other Saiyans to do the ritual, and considering the only Saiyan's technically alive at that time were Gohan, Goten and Trunks, the SSJG ritual wouldn't have even been a viable option.

[Khin]

What if Goku failed to kill Pure Boo with the Genki Dama ?

[Desassina]

Then what Goku said would be true: the universe would have been doomed, apart from Beerus. Pure Boo would just teleport to Earth and destroy it again, teleport to Namek and ensure that he Dragon Balls are destroyed along with it, etc.

[apex_pretador]

What if Goku failed to kill Pure Boo with the Genki Dama ?

It depends what you mean. He misses? If so, the kaioshin planet is gone with goku & vegeta due to genki dama.
Then Enma gives them their bodies, they decide to go to where buu is, fuse and destroy him, but buu is floating in space, while destroying solar systems and planets.
He decides to teleport to afterlife and blow the shit up.
So, almost every soul ceases to exist.

He then teleports to some random solar system and blows it up. He then teleports to earth, where luckily gohan has eaten a senzu bean. He then fights buu, while trying to save planet from every attack of buu (which is too hard).
Although gohan is more powerful, he's not strong enough to casually wipe him out in one blast. Goku & vegeta arrive on earth, to see gohan fight buu. They help gohan by deflecting the planet-destroying blasts of buu while gohan charges a big attack and wipes him out.

So, basically - almost everything in afterlife ceases to exist, including many souls which can be undone by wsh orbs (aka super DBs) only.

Then what Goku said would be true: the universe would have been doomed, apart from Beerus. Pure Boo would just teleport to Earth and destroy it again, teleport to Namek and ensure that he Dragon Balls are destroyed along with it, etc.

kid buu doesn't ENSURE anything.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if both Goku and Kid Gohan achieved Super Saiyan when Frieza had mortally wounded Piccolo with a Death Beam and blew up Krillin?

[Nejishiki]

What if both Goku and Kid Gohan achieved Super Saiyan when Frieza had mortally wounded Piccolo with a Death Beam and blew up Krillin?

Goku would full nelson Freeza as Gohan beats up on him.

[Berserker1921]

What if both Goku and Kid Gohan achieved Super Saiyan when Frieza had mortally wounded Piccolo with a Death Beam and blew up Krillin?

Frieza craps himself. However gohan would want to fight him. But Goku will tell gohan piccolo is alive and to take care of him. As he battles Frieza. Which would be more or less the same. Gohan goes to earth. Now much stronger then vegeta. Vegeta is pissed and jealous. Leaves to go training to become ssj. Gohan becomes a little stronger before frieza arrives. However has to rely on trunks to finish them off. And during those three years of training with his dad. He is prob as strong or a little weaker then ssj vegeta.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What a way to go for the self-proclaimed Emperor of the Universe.

[Berserker1921]

What if elder kaioshin knew of ssj4 during the buu saga? How much stronger would Goku and vegeta be if they went off against Berrus initially. And would this affect them through out super?

[Steven Bloodriver]

In a matter of months after the defeat of Baby, GT Kid Goku had managed to drastically improve himself since achieving Super Saiyan 4. If both Goku and Vegeta had learned and mastered SSJ4 for the years following the Majin Buu Saga then they would have been able to nearly match Beerus one-on-one and utterly trounce him if they would fight him together. With Beerus defeated (and even possibly sharing the same fate as Frieza), Whis would have asked either one of the two saviors of the Seventh Universe if they would like to replace Beerus as the next God of Destruction. Which I believe Vegeta would agree towards and everything from there would be better off than in canon for the heroes as Golden Frieza, Champa, and even Vados would not be able to handle Goku and Vegeta if the two Saiyans would train under Whis for the several months between when Beerus the Destroyer had been dealt with and the invasion of the Galactic Frieza Army. But I always wondered why Elder Kai had never mentioned the form to Goku and Gohan during the Majin Buu Arc?

[Hellspawn28]

What if Goku failed to kill Pure Boo with the Genki Dama ?

Kid Buu would go around destroying everything in the galaxy until Beerus and Whis shows up a few years later. Beerus would be mad that someone else was destroying planets besides him.

[Khin]

What if Beerus never had his prophetic dream ?

[miguelnuva1]

What if Goku failed to kill Pure Boo with the Genki Dama ?

Vegeta says screw it and they fuse into Gogeta.

[jplaya2023]

what if only piccolo dies against the saiyans and the entire z team travels to namek on dr briefs ship he built for goku and they're all training in 100g gravity every day.

briefs expands the ship to 4 levels with 4 different gravity chambers that each can go up to 100G. This trip takes 28 days as they want to train as much as possible. Also goku shows everyone kaoken and the spirit bomb.

How would this affect the story

[Hellspawn28]

I still think the humans would end up being killed by the Ginyu force or Freeza if that happen. I'm not sure if Piccolo would train with King Kai or not.

[SaiyajinGokuWarrior]

What-If: If Goku turned Super Saiyan during his battle with Raditz? How it would affect the timeline? What impact it will make?
What-If 2: What-If Instead of Pan that joins in with Trunks and Goku, It was Goten and Uub? What it will make an impact in the timeline? Will fusion return or change the timeline differently?

[Khin]

What-If: If Goku turned Super Saiyan during his battle with Raditz? How it would affect the timeline? What impact it will make?

Goku won't be able to handle the strain Super Saiyan have.

Putting that aside,Goku will beat Raditz easily.He never dies and never trained at Kaio's place,once Nappa and Vegeta arrives,Goku will deal with them rather easily.Freeza wouldn't know about the Dragon Balls and would never go to Namek.Since no Z fighter will die,they also won't go to Namek.Goku dies from the heart virus and then the Androids come and kills everyone.Since Vegeta never knew or met Bulma,there is no Future Trunks who will warn them.Gohan probably still survives,but he will recklessly challenge the Androids and get killed.Bulma creates a time machine and will go to the past by herself.He warns Goku and co about the Androids,Goku and co trained fights the Androids,Goku will still get the hearth virus-mid fight.Since no Vegeta,Piccolo will be the one who will fight #19.Piccolo beats 19 and Gero but the latter will escape and activate #17 and #18.The latter activates #16.Since also no Vegeta,Android 18 and 17 wouldn't fight the Z Fighters.Cell arrives and Piccolo merged with Kami.Basically the same thing happens as the original but Goku and Gohan will be the one who will go inside the RoSaT because there is no Vegeta or Future Trunks.Tenshinhan would get killed by Semi Perfect Cell since Goku wasn't there to save him.Goku and Gohan emerges from the RoSaT and beats the crap out of Cell.Goku lets Cell reach his Perfect Form for a good fight.Cell beats Goku and Gohan fights him,Basically the same thing happens in the original but Gohan would lose to the beam struggle since Vegeta wasn't there to distract Cell.In short,the earth is doomed.Cell will be on a rampage and meets Dabra and Babidi and kills them both.The seemingly unbeatable bio-android will only face his match if Beerus will decide to obliterate him by the time he will awoke from his slumber.

The end.