DragonBall Z Abridged

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:25 am

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Danny Devito would be the perfect voice for Dumplin. :lol:
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:01 am

You know to be fair the series sort of portrays all the characters poorly (or more often, puts more emphasis on their pre-existing negative traits). Goku is a retard, Vegeta is a selfish asshole who always fails at everything he tries, Chichi is a crazy bitch, Bulma is a pervert, Trunks is awkward with no social skills, etc. So they're not just picking on Krillin and Yamcha.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by The Monkey King » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:17 am

Oh the humanity a parody is exaggerating the negative qualities of a loser/joke character in the original Canon! We must stop this injustice at once!

Sarcasm aside all of you Yamcha fans should just get over it, he's a joke, a part of me thinks all you Yamcha fans are just hipsters who can't bring themselves to be fans of popular cool characters like Piccolo and so cling to Yamcha and bring their bitching about his 'ill treatment' everywhere

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:29 pm

TFS are a lot nicer to Yamcha than Toriyama is.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:42 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:TFS are a lot nicer to Yamcha than Toriyama is.
Are you sure about that? :P

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:19 pm

The Monkey King wrote:a part of me thinks all you Yamcha fans are just hipsters who can't bring themselves to be fans of popular cool characters like Piccolo and so cling to Yamcha and bring their bitching about his 'ill treatment' everywhere
You do realize what makes someone like a character is going to vary wildly from person to person, right? I mean, Piccolo is all right, and he's certainly pretty badass...but I'd never call him a favorite character, by any means. Nor Vegeta for that matter, and those two characters are often cited as being the most 'badass' characters in the franchise. Give me a Kuririn or a Jaco type character over them any day.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:28 pm

It bugs me that TFS seems to cause misconceptions, but I agree with the sentiment that it's on the viewers to accept TFS isn't the actual show and to learn the difference.

As for the Yamcha jokes, it doesn't bother me. It's just how the fandom works. Like how we always get jokes about Goku being a bad dad or Vegeta being a whiny brat.

Although, to the user saying all Yamcha fans hipsters, that's going a bit too far IMO. It's possible people just genuinely like the guy.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:39 pm

Kid Buu wrote:It bugs me that TFS seems to cause misconceptions (like Raditz being equal to Saibaman), but I agree with the sentiment that it's on the viewers to accept TFS isn't the actual show and to learn the difference.
Raditz was played as much a joke as Kurrin at the time. I mean he was used as a power level gauge once on Piccolo, Kurrin, and Gohan (by Nappa's Scouter no less). I think the Saibaman/Raditz comparison was just another joke that also went along with Kurrin being the "Raditz of their group."

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:42 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:It bugs me that TFS seems to cause misconceptions (like Raditz being equal to Saibaman), but I agree with the sentiment that it's on the viewers to accept TFS isn't the actual show and to learn the difference.
Raditz was played as much a joke as Kurrin at the time. I mean he was used as a power level gauge once on Piccolo, Kurrin, and Gohan (by Nappa's Scouter no less). I think the Saibaman/Raditz comparison was just another joke that also went along with Kurrin being the "Raditz of their group."
Apparently Raditz being equal to Saibamen was in the Viz version of the manga, so I edited that out.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by TripleRach » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:47 pm

The Monkey King wrote:Oh the humanity a parody is exaggerating the negative qualities of a loser/joke character in the original Canon! We must stop this injustice at once!

Sarcasm aside all of you Yamcha fans should just get over it, he's a joke, a part of me thinks all you Yamcha fans are just hipsters who can't bring themselves to be fans of popular cool characters like Piccolo and so cling to Yamcha and bring their bitching about his 'ill treatment' everywhere
This dismissive attitude is totally uncalled for. People are free to like any character for any reason.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:00 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
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Kid Buu wrote:It bugs me that TFS seems to cause misconceptions (like Raditz being equal to Saibaman), but I agree with the sentiment that it's on the viewers to accept TFS isn't the actual show and to learn the difference.
Raditz was played as much a joke as Kurrin at the time. I mean he was used as a power level gauge once on Piccolo, Kurrin, and Gohan (by Nappa's Scouter no less). I think the Saibaman/Raditz comparison was just another joke that also went along with Kurrin being the "Raditz of their group."
Apparently Raditz being equal to Saibamen was in the Viz version of the manga, so I edited that out.
Sorry I wasn't aware, though you shouldn't just go by the Viz version since they have a couple of mistranslations in there. Not as bad as the anime mind you, but they're still present.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RealtreeByGod » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:18 pm

TripleRach wrote:
The Monkey King wrote:Oh the humanity a parody is exaggerating the negative qualities of a loser/joke character in the original Canon! We must stop this injustice at once!

Sarcasm aside all of you Yamcha fans should just get over it, he's a joke, a part of me thinks all you Yamcha fans are just hipsters who can't bring themselves to be fans of popular cool characters like Piccolo and so cling to Yamcha and bring their bitching about his 'ill treatment' everywhere
This dismissive attitude is totally uncalled for. People are free to like any character for any reason.
They're free to like any character they want, but when they shit on a parody series who exaggerates every character's traits, all because of some autistic connection to a fictional character who was an extreme buttmonkey in the actual canon, it becomes a little annoying.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:21 pm

RealtreeByGod wrote:They're free to like any character they want, but when they shit on a parody series who exaggerates every character's traits, all because of some autistic connection to a fictional character who was an extreme buttmonkey in the actual canon, it becomes a little annoying.
And yet, not nearly as annoying as you tossing around disability accusations just to try to discredit someone. Way to support your argument in an intelligent, non-offensive way there.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RealtreeByGod » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:42 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
RealtreeByGod wrote:They're free to like any character they want, but when they shit on a parody series who exaggerates every character's traits, all because of some autistic connection to a fictional character who was an extreme buttmonkey in the actual canon, it becomes a little annoying.
And yet, not nearly as annoying as you tossing around disability accusations just to try to discredit someone. Way to support your argument in an intelligent, non-offensive way there.
I'm just saying, we've been talking about this for four fucking pages. Intelligence has long sense flown out the window.

Not liking TFS because "Oh noez, they pick on poor Yamcha!! Those meanies!1" might be the stupidest reason I've ever seen.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by TripleRach » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:43 pm

I haven't watched Abridged or seen most of the pro-Yamcha comments in question. But this is ridiculous. If you don't like someone's opinion, that's fine. Insulting them in the process, however, is not fine. Account strikes have gone out, and may continue if this keeps up.
Gyt Kaliba wrote:And yet, not nearly as annoying as you tossing around disability accusations just to try to discredit someone. Way to support your argument in an intelligent, non-offensive way there.
Sarcastic comments like these are not helpful either.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by BlazingBarrrager » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:17 pm

Hate to break up this debate, but I have to post this debate video link that I found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-S6oeIrhxU
Takahata101 is a natural at debates apparently. XD On a more episode related note, I just realized something after rewatching episode 49: how the f**k does Goku know about the internet when he can't even work a phone?! D:

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by rereboy » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:12 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote: Sorry I wasn't aware, though you shouldn't just go by the Viz version since they have a couple of mistranslations in there. Not as bad as the anime mind you, but they're still present.
Viz's translation is pretty good, as it has been talked about frequently by Herms and other fans. It's kind of ridiculous to not assume it's correct. Yes, it's not perfect and in the cases where proof is provided demonstrating that a particular line is incorrect or incomplete, we must acknowledge its limitations, but to not assume it's correct simply because there might be an error somewhere, like it's a scanlation or a bad official translation? Kind of ridiculous.
Attitudefan wrote: Yamcha was integral to Dragonball as a character that gave exposition (which has now been replaced by Piccolo and even Vegeta). Yamcha had the knowledge of the DB world and gave the readers/watchers all the info we need to understand. I'd say that is a character that accomplishes a lot.
Accomplishes a lot by being used as a plot device for exposition? That's basically what you are saying.

Yamcha, besides the first arc of the series, and even in certain moments in it, was mainly used as a means to expose info and as a measuring stick of power for other characters, which is why is always losing to build-up the adversary, starting from his defeat in the 21st tournament, all the way to his defeat at Gero's hands.

Yamcha is not treated seriously, except in just a few rare moments, in all of Dragon Ball, and Teamfourstar, being a parody of Dragon Ball, makes note of that, as it should, in its humor.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Rob » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:46 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:On a more episode related note, I just realized something after rewatching episode 49: how the f**k does Goku know about the internet when he can't even work a phone?! D:
Well, he did know about MySpace back in episode 1...

I dunno. Sometimes you just have to go by the MST3K Mantra: "It's just a show. I should really just relax."

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:08 pm

It seemed appropriate to post it here, with the video being an entire reference to the last episode:

TFS Official "MOUSTACHE" Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hle2-bGDh10

Utter goofs. all of them. :lol:

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