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Personally i agree and have some doubt, But your right all Cell props are powering up and Z fighters Say its impressive. But he got stomped in the end LOL
Alright
SSJ Broly Full power Movie 8 vs Full power cell
Both had very similar power ups and both where ahead of the Z fighters at the time. Who wins ?
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Both had very similar power ups and both where ahead of the Z fighters at the time. Who wins ?
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Cell. I have them being roughly even, but Cell is far more versatile. Not to mention smarter.
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Broly is powerful, but I don't think he's as powerful as Cell. Not to mention Cell's fighting skill and techniques. Yeah, I think Cell takes it.
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yeah i have to agree, Broly had a Massive power up and may be just as strong as Cell but he lacks the fighting and such. So id say cell wins but if it was turned into a beam Struggle then id say SSJ broly would win
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SS Broly gets one-shotted by Cell.
LSS simply gets dominated until Cell gets bored and blows him to pieces. He simply didn't do anything that Cell would consider impressive, and the heroes in Movie 8 are weaker than the ones at the Cell Games. He also got killed by the energy of Goku, Piccolo, and three half dead base saiyans.
LSS simply gets dominated until Cell gets bored and blows him to pieces. He simply didn't do anything that Cell would consider impressive, and the heroes in Movie 8 are weaker than the ones at the Cell Games. He also got killed by the energy of Goku, Piccolo, and three half dead base saiyans.
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Well Well Well, Random your debating against the Smartest Broly Fan on the internet (like to think i am)RandomGuy96 wrote:SS Broly gets one-shotted by Cell.
LSS simply gets dominated until Cell gets bored and blows him to pieces. He simply didn't do anything that Cell would consider impressive, and the heroes in Movie 8 are weaker than the ones at the Cell Games. He also got killed by the energy of Goku, Piccolo, and three half dead base saiyans.
The Z fighters in movie 8 are the same as Cell games, Besides gohan being weaker but other then that nothing really indicates that there weaker. And i doubt Cell could do anything that Broly done in movie 8.
both had 2 Comparisons in terms of Feats
Cell tanked Vegeta attack but he had braced himself for it


Broly Tanked Goku Super kamehameha without any bracing or support, he practically stood right in front of him and LOLED at it + 2 Maseko+Big Bang Attack

Cell One-Shot Vegeta (Still in SSJ)
Broly One-Shot Vegeta to base
not to mention Broly powered up in the end so he done all that while being suppressed.
Giving Powers is huge, Watch movie 4 when Piccolo gave his power to goku man he went form getting stomped by Slug to one-shot Slug. And Goku in movie 8 had 4 of them
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Gohan is shown to be weaker, and logically the others should be too, going by both the time where this movie was released and where it could logically be placed in the timeline. Broly can be as strong as Initial Perfect Cell for all we know.
Cell was suppressed. Ultra suppressed. He was always ultra suppressed until Gohan turned SS2. Then he went full power, making everyone crap themselves. Broly didn't do a single thing that Cell couldn't have done with one hand tied behind his back.
Though debating you is probably pointless, as you're a self-admitted Broly fanboy who thinks that his power is maximum and that he's SS3 tier.
Cell was suppressed. Ultra suppressed. He was always ultra suppressed until Gohan turned SS2. Then he went full power, making everyone crap themselves. Broly didn't do a single thing that Cell couldn't have done with one hand tied behind his back.
Though debating you is probably pointless, as you're a self-admitted Broly fanboy who thinks that his power is maximum and that he's SS3 tier.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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No It just means Gohan is weaker, Or goku could of switched places with gohan in terms of power since his the main character in the movie.RandomGuy96 wrote:Gohan is shown to be weaker, and logically the others should be too, going by both the time where this movie was released and where it could logically be placed in the timeline. Broly can be as strong as Initial Perfect Cell for all we know.
Super perfect cell had to brace himself for a weaker attack and Super perfect cell>>Full power cell, Broly tanked a Full power kamehameha without bracing or Anything as he liturally stood in front of it. So Full power Cell even coming close to Broly is not happening when his strongest form Couldn't do itCell was suppressed. Ultra suppressed. He was always ultra suppressed until Gohan turned SS2. Then he went full power, making everyone crap themselves. Broly didn't do a single thing that Cell couldn't have done with one hand tied behind his back.
I offered you to debate with me on my forum about Broly but you denied, Before calling me a troll and make insults try beating me first. I told you if i am going to get in a heat debate then take it to my forum because i don't want to cause trouble here. You wanna do it or your going to chicken out ?
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Movie 8 Broly > Super Perfect Cell now?
Okay then. Just go on believing that. I'm done with the Broly debates.
Okay then. Just go on believing that. I'm done with the Broly debates.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Come on man if your so right and all then debate with me on my forum. if i am wrong and you are right then you should have no problem beating me and proving me wrong.RandomGuy96 wrote:Movie 8 Broly > Super Perfect Cell now?
Okay then. Just go on believing that. I'm done with the Broly debates.
Are you all talk and no Action because so far it sounds like that
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It might be the fact that several members of this forum have already debated with you on this topic. It might be because you're the only one opposing them. It might be because it's happened several times on several different threads. Or it just might be because no one wants to join your spam advertised forum. Either way, we've been through this multiple times.Cardle grave wrote:Come on man if your so right and all then debate with me on my forum. if i am wrong and you are right then you should have no problem beating me and proving me wrong.RandomGuy96 wrote:Movie 8 Broly > Super Perfect Cell now?
Okay then. Just go on believing that. I'm done with the Broly debates.
Are you all talk and no Action because so far it sounds like that
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Trying to make me look like the bad guy and you and others like the hero is not going to win debates, Serious this guy called me a troll and insulted me and i am taking him up on a challenge 1 on 1 on my forum so nothing happens here. Shouldn't be a problem if his so confident he can beat me and if he knows if his right and i am wrong, Should have no problem proving it. That is what debating is all about am i correct.Draken wrote:It might be the fact that several members of this forum have already debated with you on this topic. It might be because you're the only one opposing them. It might be because it's happened several times on several different threads. Or it just might be because no one wants to join your spam advertised forum. Either way, we've been through this multiple times.Cardle grave wrote:Come on man if your so right and all then debate with me on my forum. if i am wrong and you are right then you should have no problem beating me and proving me wrong.RandomGuy96 wrote:Movie 8 Broly > Super Perfect Cell now?
Okay then. Just go on believing that. I'm done with the Broly debates.
Are you all talk and no Action because so far it sounds like that
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No, they are not, cardle.
Goku was impressed by Second Grade Vegeta getting tanked, Gohan was even weaker than Piccolo and Trunks, who seemed to be only on par with Piccolo.
Tanking ki attacks in movies isn't impressive, since the amplification doesn't aply in Toei's works.See Cell Jrs. vs Gohan for example.
While Broly did power up, it was more that he put all that ki, that kept gathering, into use.It wasn't a massive power up either, just a small one.
No one cares about your forum, cardle.You ban and edit members's posts, because you disagree with them.So I don't think anybody would want to join a forum, with a heavily Broly-biased admin.
Cell bracing for the attack makes no sense, since Vegeta couldn't even match his suppressed self.Perhaps it was that rage boost he got in the new movie.
As for the thread:He gets annihilated, even if he is LSSJ.
Goku was impressed by Second Grade Vegeta getting tanked, Gohan was even weaker than Piccolo and Trunks, who seemed to be only on par with Piccolo.
Tanking ki attacks in movies isn't impressive, since the amplification doesn't aply in Toei's works.See Cell Jrs. vs Gohan for example.
While Broly did power up, it was more that he put all that ki, that kept gathering, into use.It wasn't a massive power up either, just a small one.
No one cares about your forum, cardle.You ban and edit members's posts, because you disagree with them.So I don't think anybody would want to join a forum, with a heavily Broly-biased admin.
Cell bracing for the attack makes no sense, since Vegeta couldn't even match his suppressed self.Perhaps it was that rage boost he got in the new movie.
As for the thread:He gets annihilated, even if he is LSSJ.
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Wow the excuses here are way over 9000, Really i don't think there one moment you haven't underrated yet. And i only banned Pakl for thinking Toei Agrees with his theory and logic and calling everyone wrong. And Guys if you don't know who pakl is. His undertaker on this forum so you know what i am talking aboutPerfectFreeza wrote:No, they are not, cardle.
Goku was impressed by Second Grade Vegeta getting tanked, Gohan was even weaker than Piccolo and Trunks, who seemed to be only on par with Piccolo.
Tanking ki attacks in movies isn't impressive, since the amplification doesn't aply in Toei's works.See Cell Jrs. vs Gohan for example.
While Broly did power up, it was more that he put all that ki, that kept gathering, into use.It wasn't a massive power up either, just a small one.
No one cares about your forum, cardle.You ban and edit members's posts, because you disagree with them.So I don't think anybody would want to join a forum, with a heavily Broly-biased admin.
Cell bracing for the attack makes no sense, since Vegeta couldn't even match his suppressed self.Perhaps it was that rage boost he got in the new movie.
As for the thread:He gets annihilated, even if he is LSSJ.
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What excuses?I have evidence in the movie and the sketches.
Well, Pakl/Undertaker is somewhat correct.
Well, Pakl/Undertaker is somewhat correct.
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I have all the sketches and i really don't know what sketches got to do with anything since M8 and M9 are the same, Hell they even used Movie 8 SSJ goku as Buu saga Goku. Pakl is never correct, he will never learn as he thinks Toei agrees with everything he does. I gave that guy a chance to change and he didn't.PerfectFreeza wrote:What excuses?I have evidence in the movie and the sketches.
Well, Pakl/Undertaker is somewhat correct.
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The sketches for M8 Vegeta say ''Super Vegeta''.So he is Second Grade SSJ in M8.Same with Trunks.
Show me, where they used Goku as Buu saga Goku.
He is somewhat correct.
Show me, where they used Goku as Buu saga Goku.
He is somewhat correct.
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Everytime Vegeta is a Bulky his Super Vegeta, Remember the same Designs for Movie 8 where the same for Movie 9. if they where targeting Bulk then Trunks would of be Super Trunks not Super Saiyan TrunksPerfectFreeza wrote:The sketches for M8 Vegeta say ''Super Vegeta''.So he is Second Grade SSJ in M8.Same with Trunks.
Show me, where they used Goku as Buu saga Goku.
He is somewhat correct.
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Vegeta and Trunks Post-2nd Rosat look the same as Pre-2nd Rosat as Second Grades.
He never called himself Super Trunks, did he?It's quite obvious he is Second Grade, since again, his jacket exploded.
New fight:Kibito vs. 19.
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He never called himself Super Trunks, did he?It's quite obvious he is Second Grade, since again, his jacket exploded.
New fight:Kibito vs. 19.
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