Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[A Man named RJ]

That's not a rotoscope. It is very much referenced though Yutaka Nakamura is just that good. A rotoscope would not have that stop/start framerate (some movement is on 1's 2's or 3's rotoscopes are consistent), those smears, and that technically unrealistic movement, and body shapes and shadows that shift angles slightly every drawing.

Referenced and rotoscoped are not one in the same.

Rotoscope can still be edited, polished and smeared. I'm looking at the shadows on the shirt, they keep changing drastically, and the shot from far away is barely just contour. The movement feels like it has the rotoscope jitters. Rotoscope doesn't have to be line for line, trace for trace.

Rotoscope is in the movement, the movement is not rotoscoped, again, referenced, sure, but not rotoscoped. Looking at Yutaka Nakamura's other work it become clear tht that is how he makes things move. I'd reccomend you train your eyes to sudden shifts in framerate. The back jacket follows a contour, you can pick up on that contour with a keen eye on reference. Speaking of, why rotoscope and then edit back? A rotoscope is usually "polished" from the get go, again the movement is slightly unrealistically timed.

[Ajay]

Poor Nakamura. I guess he should take it as a compliment. All the best animators adopting this type of animation seem to get rotoscoping accusations.

Bahi JD gets them all the time:

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Mitsuo Iso, too.

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They're just really good. There's a great explanation about Iso's work here, actually.

[ArchedThunder]

She posted something interesting again.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ishigyunyu/s ... 2255136768

This is the raw translation:

And Mr. Nanba Ryo who is progressing in production was a tremendous work of progressing both OP and ED in addition to other main part and number. He is a very good progresser who will ride the consultation as well as the schedule, but I am planning to change the occupation to aid in the near future. Let 's do our best together ... (Dark smile

Her following tweet was pretty straightforward:

I do not know how far I can give out such information.

So is she gonna be a regular ? That's what the tweets felt like to me. If anyone is proficient in Japanese please feel free to correct it.

Quoted for a new page because I really want to see someone translate this.

[HeroR]

Is it just me or does it seem like the buff dude that Goku fights in the opening actually had his design made with animation in mind? He has a super simple head, face, outfit and fairly simple body shape, he has to be one of the most animator friendly characters the show has seen. Hopefully that leads to some nice cuts of him.

I'm surprised I haven't seen people bring up the change in sound effects more. So many things make it seem like they want this to be Super turning over a new leaf, let's just cross our fingers and hope it doesn't crash and burn.

This has been said every story arc since the Champa Saga. How many 'new leafs' do we need here?

[ArchedThunder]

This has been said every story arc since the Champa Saga. How many 'new leafs' do we need here?

And? Both the Champ and Future Trunks arc both had things that made it feel like they wanted it to be a new start and it's pretty understandable why they would want that. But there is so much more this time that makes it seem like they want this to be a new start more than any other arc, new post processing, new sounds, new opening, the new directors and producer could be part of that, and if we're lucky more consistent art and animation when we get to the meat of the arc, but we'll have to see on that.

[FortuneSSJ]

-Episode 77-

The art and animations were okay.
The filter is such a drastic change that it will take me time time to get used to it.
On a bright side, it looks much better than it looked in the preview, doesn't seem like characters will ever look like plastic anymore and doesn't reach garbage levels like the Orange Bricks episodes.

How people can be so ignorant to think that was how DBZ really looked?!
The entire fanbase getting to suffer because of some stupid Funimations fanboys that don't even know what they are talking about. What they doing next? Vote Trump for president?! Oh wait...

As for the Opening, the tournament parts looks great but the the rest not so much. The part of Gohan meditating looks ugly as hell.

-New Directors -

I'm sad to see Hatano Morio go.
FT Trunks was improvement in every department compared to Champa arc. His episode 66 is for me the best episode of Super and one of the best episodes of the entire franchise.
When Hatano Kohei was promoted, i was expecting Morio had went ahead to work on this arc, but seems like this wasn't the case. I'm grateful for have had him with us.

I don't know shit about directors, but if one of the new ones directed One Piece Film Z and that is the best One Piece Movie and one of my favourite shonen movies ever, than fuck it. I will take it.

[ArchedThunder]

The part of Gohan meditating looks ugly as hell.

How?

[FortuneSSJ]

The part of Gohan meditating looks ugly as hell.

How?

I hate the colors. Looks like some random guy on youtube did it "to make it look like DBZ".

[ArchedThunder]

I wonder if Shimanuki did the opening fight in the OP but was heavily corrected, it was rather stiff like his stuff and classic face shading even popped up for a frame.

It could totally be someone else just ignoring the shading guide though, but the stiffness really makes me think Shimanuki.

[Ajay]

I wonder if Shimanuki did the opening fight in the OP but was heavily corrected, it was rather stiff like his stuff and classic face shading even popped up for a frame.
It could totally be someone else just ignoring the shading guide though, but the stiffness really makes me think Shimanuki.

If you only mean that one cut, then I could get on board with that guess maybe, but for the stuff after it within the same sequence, I don't think it's him.

Shimanuki doesn't seem like the kinda person to do stuff like this, and the whole thing seems so entwined compared to the other cuts that are very different people.

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It's a tough one. Either way, we got the best Goku of the entire OP. Just throwing that out there.

[Alee9977]

The Goku shot in the NEP really gave me Lee Joo-Hyon vibes, those really big eyes specially.

[iAnimationLover_]

Shimanuki doesn't seem like the kinda person to do stuff like this, and the whole thing seems so entwined compared to the other cuts that are very different people.

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Well, Shimanuki does tend to animate his fight scenes with this type of thing (idk what its called ) thats in that short opening fight: http://prntscr.com/e4va8t

[ArchedThunder]

It's a tough one. Either way, we got the best Goku of the entire OP. Just throwing that out there.

Despite Yamamuro's presence the art in general seemed to have more life you you would expect. Hopefully that carries over to the show if he returns to work directly on it again. I wish he would at least change his L shaped noses to be more like they were in Z.

[dhaval_dongre]

She posted something interesting again.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ishigyunyu/s ... 2255136768

This is the raw translation:

And Mr. Nanba Ryo who is progressing in production was a tremendous work of progressing both OP and ED in addition to other main part and number. He is a very good progresser who will ride the consultation as well as the schedule, but I am planning to change the occupation to aid in the near future. Let 's do our best together ... (Dark smile

Her following tweet was pretty straightforward:

I do not know how far I can give out such information.

So is she gonna be a regular ? That's what the tweets felt like to me. If anyone is proficient in Japanese please feel free to correct it.

Quoted for a new page because I really want to see someone translate this.

Does Hujio also know Japanese ? It will be great if him or Herms or anyone else proficient with Japanese can translate this, because it looks like Ishitani did state some important info. And man she tweets a lot. Gotta keep an eye out for her posts.

[ArchedThunder]

Does Hujio also know Japanese ? It will be great if him or Herms or anyone else proficient with Japanese can translate this, because it looks like Ishitani did state some important info. And man she tweets a lot. Gotta keep an eye out for her posts.

I sent it to a friend, waiting for her to get back to me.

[dhaval_dongre]

Thats nice. Thanks btw.

[iAnimationLover_]

It's a tough one. Either way, we got the best Goku of the entire OP. Just throwing that out there.

Damn that goku looks fantastic. I also noticed that the nose looks a lot smaller than usual, despite Yamamuro being the supervisor . And also that annoying "Shine" On the faces has been weirdly absent recently. it shows up but not nearly as often, and i hope it stays that way.

[dhaval_dongre]

It's a tough one. Either way, we got the best Goku of the entire OP. Just throwing that out there.

Looks like Shimanuki to me.

[HeroR]

This has been said every story arc since the Champa Saga. How many 'new leafs' do we need here?

And? Both the Champ and Future Trunks arc both had things that made it feel like they wanted it to be a new start and it's pretty understandable why they would want that. But there is so much more this time that makes it seem like they want this to be a new start more than any other arc, new post processing, new sounds, new opening, the new directors and producer could be part of that, and if we're lucky more consistent art and animation when we get to the meat of the arc, but we'll have to see on that.

So is every saga is going to be classified as a new start? Future Trunks Saga brought new music, a different tone, a more complex story arc, a new writer, ect.

[kinisking]

Can someone post a video/ audio clip compare the old sound effects, the new sound effects and DBZ's?